All about Onaholes, HIPS, Fleshlight, Dolls and Stuffs.

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Asking about onaholes and Stuffs but they said I need to post a thread, so the Knowledge will be helpful to everyone else.
This will be a wall of text.


1). Someone said that they bought China onaholes and stuffs and asking if they asking if china made are safe?
because of you know mostly they create are half quality or not in standard quality. china products are, and it can pose danger to ones health because of it.

I like to ask if your opinion on this and your expertise on this. Or are there legitimate brands in china, that is good enough?

China products are rampant and mostly available unlike the others and for some reason there are SOME very small good china products that have a good quality, BUT there are so many that aren't good standard. So if you guys know any good brands and website to buy quality made, pls share.

For sometime I did bought china stuff, Hips and Torso dolls. Problems are it did not indicate what materials it made of (of course they would said its TPE), but for my health reason it triggers my asthma so much that the doctor said it can lead to pneumonia, so I need to throw it out. The HIPS is good but kinda small just 3KG. I do have a small body structure (somewhat, shota body type) but still small to me, what more to the others. But I want a bigger one, more like life size.

One the other hand, The Torso Doll that I brought is very nice but still very small, 6KG.. wrong advertisement (typical china). I still want a life size Torso Doll. Problem is that whenever I wash the pussy hole It had a rust-like water coming out of it, I got me worried, maybe the frame is weak or it is weak already at start, or got rips holes after using it. I didn't do any extreme position on it. Most position I do it just cowgirl. Sometimes reverse cowgirl, missionary and doggy but because the doll is so small and weird pelvis angle, the height angle and penetration angle, you will enter is always the back door. Because of that, I just do the cowgirl more. Moreover same health problems, after 2 months, it did trigger my asthma again whenever I used it then. So I did throw it out even if I don't want to.

Any thoughts about this? Whats the right weight of lifesize torso doll and HIPS? or how big it is?
I don't want very heavy ones because of my small body frames and I'm not jack as shet. For now I can't lift heavy things, I did lift on gym's before but without a guide or mentor, just buddies that said "oh you can lift this I'll spot you. No pain no gain" end result is now have lower back pain. Well I now know that I do need a guide/mentor because solo hit the gym without a proper weight lift regime will backfire.




2). I kinda want to have onaholes, Don't know the difference to fleshlight thought? care to explain?
Even though I want onaholes but I'm more inclined to HIPS more, or Torso Dolls.
What brand/website can you guys recommend for this?



3). What website store recommended? and if they shipped internationally, more over SEA region?

I ask you this because for sometime I kinda want to have one , the onaholes but I'm more inclined to HIPS more, or Torso. I found some Japanese store but they won't shipped where I'm from. And most EU and USA ones won't shipped on SEA (South East Asia) region. So most store that I saw are China made and can be shipped here, catch is that most discussion group are either bias to there brand names, etc. (ex; TPE vs Silicon fight). I did buy a torso doll 2yrs ago, but it post a health threat to me, and leak some rust type liquid on the holes whenever I clean it so I discard it.

Most Dolls and Onaholes online that are with quality and price won't shipped in SEA (South East Asia) region. I don't know what the heck even in 2025 they don't even shipped in SEA, They can shipped in japan, they can shipped in korea and china but why not in SEA??

Only one I know of that can shipped here is "Tantaly" and thats it.



4). TPE vs Silicon?
For the longest time I did search what is the pros and cons on the 2. But whenever I dug deeper, It got more confusing. mostly its from redit since I don't know any forums for this kind of stuff before. SO I don't know whats the truth anymore.

for example, TPE have mini holes and even if you wash it it will still have body fluid stains and it can cause bacteria to thrive like MOLDS, you need to change it like 2 months?
some said, thats not true. Some said, it is.

TPE cannot be wash by soap, some said it can. Some said a type of soap BUT they won't even said what type/brand of soap, Some said detergent. Some said dishwashing soap. Some said specific soap for sex toys. (I did bought that specific soap but after 3weeks my fleshlight deteriorated, it just breaks on its own. I bought another one and did not use that kind of soap and it did not deteriorated. So I don't know anymore.) Some said don't use a specific soap ingredient to clean TPE. SOme said that because of this stuff, Silicon is better, safe to clean and last longer.

Can we have it here a concreate list of whats the difference of the 2, Pros and Cons, what can be use to clean it (soap. etc). Truths about TPE/Silicon bacteria overtime/Molds and health stuff like that.



5). This is almost on number 3, But for extended cleaning. Using Alcohol as disinfectant to body fluid, Some said it can be use but it still have bacteria thriving because of mini holes. Ethyl or ISP alcohol?. Can alcohol deteriorate TPE/Silicon? because it over-dries it (I don't know about this is true, I only know that stupid ads-soap that broke my fleshlight.)

Cornstarch vs BRANDed Renewing Powder?
some said its bad some said its good, I really don't know anymore. Some said just use baby powder, but I won't using talc power like J&J because it triggers my asthma (news in 2022, sue J&J talcum power products because it caused cancer). Cornstarch is bad because its can expire ingredient, somewhat be poisonous?, renewing power cost so much. I don't know what powder applied on Onaholes and Dolls?..

also, if powder can be applied inside the holes? they said only the exterior parts not inner holes, they gonna mess up when you use the holes.. any truth to this?

Water Only for Cleaning, fleshlight? onaholes? dolls?
since they said that soap is bad on TPE or sometimes Silicon, use ONLY water to clean your junk. yeah,... I don't know if this is even right. I wash it also with soap, the heck it get deteriorated, I don't want molds.. I already have enough health issues.



6). Using Water-Base LUBE?
does water based lube really dried very fast? if not, what brand can you guys recommend?
I cannot use oil based lube because TPE is bad on oil? or is in SIllicon? but oils can break condoms so yeah...
its kinda annoying to re-applied lube again and again because it feels not slippery anymore and it breaks the sensation, plus more lube are wasted on cowgirl position.



7). Heating the Fleshlight / Onaholes / Torso Dolls / HIPS?
what right temperature is needed? It kinda excite me when torso doll / Hips are hot and its kinda addictive. but I don't know what is the right temperature. They said that hot water can heat it all.. But I mess it up and deteriorated my HIPS because the temperature is too hot. I do saw heating rods but most review are it over heat and melt the holes. I did bought some of it but all of it have somewhat defects that it will not heat up properly. Some said use the electric heating blanket stuff..
Some said heat the LUBE instead, so when you applied it on the holes it feels better. But if you heat the lube, you cannot put it back on the original container? right?



8). Using Oils?
when I bought a HIPS, it had a oil sachet.. it said it can help to regenerate oils on TPE (because tpe have some kind of oils??). Don't know if its true, I never applied it. I read it somewhere that TPE are bad to oils. some said its silicon that is bad to oils.



9). If I gonna buy a DOLL, what do I need to know? and its maintenance? etc.?





Thank you..

Hope, this thread thrives and helps others too.

 

[Checkmate]

First, you need to understand the core principals:

TPE vs Silicon

When discussing onaholes, two key materials are typically involved: TPE and silicone. The primary distinctions between these materials are cost and texture. TPE is generally less expensive and more porous than silicone, resulting in a slightly rougher feel that some users might find adds a desirable texture. However, TPE is also more prone to retaining moisture, which requires careful maintenance.

The manufacturing process for onaholes is simple: materials are injected into a heated mold. Creating molds for TPE is cheaper than for silicone, so product prices are largely determined by material weight and distributor margins. Japanese products often involve higher distributor cuts, making them more expensive, although the essential difference in quality is negligible.

Both TPE and silicone can be engineered to offer various textures, and the material grade (whether food or medical) can affect the price. Generally, the specific grade used isn't always advertised, but both materials are safe if maintained properly.

In my opinion, TPE is preferable because it is more cost-effective, allowing for a larger collection. Most Japanese onaholes are made from TPE material that are likely from in China. The quality of the mold doesn't significantly impact the material grading.

Maintenance for Safety:

The key to keeping onaholes safe, regardless of whether they are made from silicone or TPE, is to ensure they are thoroughly dried to prevent mold growth. You can clean the onahole by turning it inside out, rinsing it with water, and using soap if oil-based lubricants were used. Most Japanese lubricants do not contain oil, unlike many Western varieties.

For drying, you can invest in or create a fan-dry device, which aids in thoroughly drying the onahole by inserting a small stream of air inside. Although there are drying inserts sponge that helps absorbing moister, I don't find them useless. Powdering the onahole is unnecessary unless you plan to store it long-term, you would need to seal as material degrade overtime but you risk permanently deforming the hole as well.

Onaholes are generally affordable, and if you find them pricey, consider checking the original prices on original shops like Amazon Japan, Getchu, then use forwarding services to save money by buying in bulk.

Silicone tends to be more durable, whereas TPE can deform easier. However, given the affordability of TPE products, the potential savings make up for any such issues. Silicone products are more popular among female toy, and I assume the reason that they have a higher risk of infection caused by mold and yeast.

Lubrication:

I typically purchase Japanese heavy lubes, which are reasonably priced and long-lasting. For variety, you can mix bottled mineral water with thick lube to adjust consistency as needed. Thinner lubes are messier but often feel better; but buying thicker lube save a lot of money as it can be diluted.

About 100$ include shipping and import taxes can buy me 3 bottles of 2L of really thick lube which can be diluted into 5L each - 15L of lube, roughly 2 years of supplies.

I avoid using Chinese lubricants altogether. The lube that comes packaged with the toy feels cheap, has an unpleasant odor, and irritates my finger with the exception Drywell's brand, which is pricey and still doesn't compare to Japan one.

Japanese lubes are undeniably superior, beating even well-known brands like Durex or Trojan at amazing price, all thanks to the full-body massage industry.

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Now that you understand the the principals, let's address your questions:

Rust-Stained Liquid and Asthma:

I've never encountered rust-stained liquids unless it wasn't cleaned properly as when I was new to this field, this was 100% the case for me.

What you describe indicates retained liquids growing mold, which can release spores and cause asthma. TPE is hypoallergenic, so it's mostly inert to the human body. Ensure thorough cleaning and drying, especially for full-size hips and torsos, which can't be turned inside out. Using a fan device insertion for drying is better. Alternatively, consider products with removable inserts for easier maintenance.

I do own some hips and torso onaholes but think they are overrated.

Pay attention to pricing: a half-body TPE onahole typically costs around $200- $400 USD, while a full-size can range from $600–$1,000 USD depending on weight (5kg–8kg for half-size and 15kg–20kg for full-size). If a product is significantly cheaper, it might contain lower-quality fillers to maintain weight, which could impact safety. Most plastics are safe, but some can cause allergy reaction because of the micro-particulates due to improper manufacturing.

TPE vs Silicon, Fleshlight and Onahole

As previously mentioned, TPE is softer and more affordable than silicone and retains moisture better. Proper maintenance is crucial for both materials to avoid mold, which can root deeply and render the product unusable. To ensure longevity, keep your onahole thoroughly dry after each use.

For cleaning TPE, avoid hand soap that contains oils, as these can degrade the material. Instead, opt for dish soap (Sunlight) without grease removers if there are oils on the onahole. It's best to avoid using products with oil additives, including certain lubricants and almost all condoms unless it is water-based lube one, those are less popular and are made for medical reasons, also very expensive. After all, oils are necessary to increase the shelf life of the condom, to prevent sticking and tearing.

Keep in mind that oils, including those found in skincare products, can degrade the plastics used in toys.
Fleshlights are also made of TPE, but my experience suggests that Japanese and Chinese designs, such as those from brands like Toysheart, Magic Eyes, and G project, often provide much better quality than Fleshlight. Other Chinese onahole you can search for Yuu, Lu Lu cup, and OOUMAI on Aliexpress.

There's also a lot of copy fleshlight made by Chinese, that feel as good, if not better than Fleshlight, I'd not bother with Fleshlight.

I'd also recommend mechanized onahole. And this is even a deeper topic I don't know if I should discuss in this essay. For specific make and models of the hole, now it is extremely hard to recommend and it depends on what you seek. It's another long ass topic I would cover later, if desire.

Heating

The idea of a heated onahole is appealing, but not without its challenges. Onaholes tend to lose heat quickly; reaching a realistic body temperature of around 38c will only last about 1-2 minutes with lubrication, even less without it, due to rapid heat transfer (to your little brother)

I've experimented with multiple heating methods, including tea pots for water-based heat, insertion elements, and wrapping heat coils. Each method has pros and cons. Water-based heating provides a more immersive warmth but may degrade the material and poses a burn risk. Insertion elements, whether chemical (you break the coins, the polymerplastic liquid hardens and releases heat) or electric insertions usually provide only brief warmth.

Heating coils are effective for retaining warmth, but only works with thin-walled models, but these are usually integrated into mechanized onaholes. Avoid heating lubricants that contain oils, as they can quickly damage your onahole and the fake feeling of heat is just ... terrible.

As a rule, refrain from using oils on your onahole to preserve its condition.

Dolls

I'm unable to fully address your question about dolls without more information on what you're specifically looking for. However, I can share a few general thoughts:

Dolls tend to be quite expensive and require significant care and maintenance. They can accumulate dirt quickly and may not offer the value for effort that some expect.

The availability and pricing of dolls are heavily dependent on suppliers and brokers, plus there will be challenges with customs clearance as well. Back in 2018, smaller dolls cost around $3,500, while more detailed or larger models ranged from $3,000 to $4,000. Prices have likely increased since then, possibly reaching about $4,000 or more. I did negotiate the price down as low as just 3000$ for a 28kg dolls. It looks nice may be for the first 30 days and then I think it's just not worth the price or the time it took for maintenance. Real sex from a non-professional partner is much cheaper and easier at that point.

Finally, if you're seeking a product that perfectly replicates the experience of real, genuine sex, it's important to set realistic expectations. The vagina is a complex structure, both soft and thick at the same time, with muscular intricacies that current products cannot replicate. Despite having tried numerous options about 600 onaholes. I can affirm that none can truly compare to the real thing.