/me throws two dollars at pichu as to pity him

hmm.......having a big block of color around the sig , I don't think it might turn out good , we might not have an option where we are able to customize the color if you know what I mean like for Example adding a pink color around your siggy might look nice but having it a light pink color or a mixture of a light violet/pink color would be great and much better or if samy should he ever put a black color around his siggy that will totally ruin the patterns, but off course he won't do that ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

let's just say unless we could customize the colors further it won't look good but if we could then I say yay it should be fine . Though I feel it won't get approved~

Although... depending on how complex this might be, if they're just going to be enabled for a short period of time it wouldn't encourage users to put in work into customizing it only to see their work disappear once the period is over.
[MENTION=18465]renano[/MENTION]; I agree with pichu
 
[MENTION=18465]renano[/MENTION];

I support the idea. It will be a nice change of pace. I don't even want/need it to be permanent but only during special occasions like said Christmas season but also New Years, Halloween and similar days.

Thank you for your time to respond and your insight about nanashi's proposal.

I'm glad you like the Christmas suggestion. I'll wait one more day before writing to Ignis in case more people have other ideas or feelings.

Is fine then, have then further an nice day...^^!

Okay, will I in some hours later make...

Well, to be honest: The renders (pics) I take from Google-image browser, where then later with Paint/Word programs edit just, because I've no Photoshop software and the digipain aswell. - Where then, you see - It'd not fair be against the others here (SOTM and like...)...>_>

Take your time with the poll. Just be clear as possible and use your mind as well as heart. If you put yourself out there, there is a slightly higher chance more users may consent.

Ugh. That sounds so painful using Paint/Word. >_> Have you tried GIMP? It's a free software and has the basic features for sig making.

Lol added a bit of an edit while you quoted..~

There enough chaos without more riots xD

Hmm... okies x3 The ideas of just having it on holidays... is quite interesting now that unown pointed it out..~ Might get people to get a bit creative for the holiday season x3

But night gowns just seem... well... i guess it would be more comfortable... wait... why am i considering this.... @_@

Maa, responses come fast. The problem is that I reply as 'full' as possible. I can add a simple "......" and end the conversation, but that's not very nice~

Oh! You've seen the light of my suggestion about the Christmas season? /me casually snickers

It's a night gown. No one will see it if you just sleep and cover yourself.

Although... depending on how complex this might be, if they're just going to be enabled for a short period of time it wouldn't encourage users to put in work into customizing it only to see their work disappear once the period is over.

I have looked at unown's response and I think if nanashi's proposal does come to light... one of the three shall happen.

1) It initiated without the users's consensus and will be permanent
2) It will only be during special seasons or holidays
3) It will be a test like a beta version, one month trial kind of thing. Whether it stays or goes is up to the consensus of the users.

[MENTION=67840]pichu655889[/MENTION]; I kinda like using a bit of time on customization myself, also think there are some plans in the works at some stage or an other like you said. My first wish which I already have mentioned for Ignis once would be able to invert the colors, or add a darker themed background. But as it is, the forum is quite customizable. So there isn't really a great imminent need, hence I wouldn't be surprised if it take a bit of time by being pushed back among other priorities.

@Rena, strange, maybe it was the day before...I could have sworn you where up since at least way earlier than 6.30. but no matter. Cause I remember myself being slightly surprised or something.

Guinea pig is fine.

Regarding the whole idea of a background behind the sig, I'm not really "seeing it" Seems perhaps like a lot of work for not much in return maybe.

Oh and @sam, the gown would look good with your hands,...and painted nails ;]

And that is why I included the Limited Time during Christmas as a 'gift' for users. It might or might not work. I shall try.

Could be a renano zombie who can use the laptop... /me casually pokes herself, but too hard... Blood! Blood is spurting!

/me throws two dollars at pichu as to pity him

hmm.......having a big block of color around the sig , I don't think it might turn out good , we might not have an option where we are able to customize the color if you know what I mean like for Example adding a pink color around your siggy might look nice but having it a light pink color or a mixture of a light violet/pink color would be great and much better or if samy should he ever put a black color around his siggy that will totally ruin the patterns, but off course he won't do that ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

let's just say unless we could customize the colors further it won't look good but if we could then I say yay it should be fine . Though I feel it won't get approved~


[MENTION=18465]renano[/MENTION]; I agree with pichu

Thank you Ralium. I shall take it into consideration.

That is why I am not guaranteeing this will be approved. I am only adding a "slightly higher success rate by 5%" with my sale's pitch.

The Admins are busy with other tasks. The most I can do is to "keep it in mind" and hope they "look into it" someday.
 
Take your time with the poll. Just be clear as possible and use your mind as well as heart. If you put yourself out there, there is a slightly higher chance more users may consent.

Ugh. That sounds so painful using Paint/Word. >_> Have you tried GIMP? It's a free software and has the basic features for sig making.

Will do. ...Well, I've my mind/thoughts gather, this'll "easy"...^^

GIMP... Well, I've heard about them, but unhappily yet never used (Time/Technical managment issue)... - But, I'll from now try, thanks for your suggestion...:goodtea:
 
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Maa, responses come fast. The problem is that I reply as 'full' as possible. I can add a simple "......" and end the conversation, but that's not very nice~

Oh! You've seen the light of my suggestion about the Christmas season? /me casually snickers

It's a night gown. No one will see it if you just sleep and cover yourself.

Well... yeah..~ Make it more specialish so people might be more creative with stuff~..~

Mehs itll still be odd x3 Think ill pass on the painted nails as well xD
 
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Hm... I don't think I'll add much to the discussion, given what was already (very well) pointed out.

For the technical part, given how well structured AS seems to be, I don't think this will be much of a challenge. Of course, they'll need to put some time/effort to make the changes happen, which makes the argument about being useful to the community quite valid. As for being limited, this is something that can be reused, so it may not be something that will be discarded right after its availability expires.

In terms of usability, will the user have to input two images, one for the sig and other for the background, or maybe a selection of fixed backgrounds? It would at least have to provide more flexibility compared to the usual way (and be easy of use, though I don't think that would be a real issue...).

Then there's the visual aspect, which is actually more on the personal side... In some forums, there's so much visual pollution that they look like those pages full of ads in which what matters is obstructed by the high amount of flashing and bright colors. I can see people using their creativity to do all sorts of colorful and nice things, but I'm a bit uncertain if the final image will be easy on the eyes.

Still, I'm always in when it comes to more customization options~

Also, sorry I took too long to answer... You now know how slow I am when it comes to typing. xD

Your welcome Pal ! *GenKiDan Grabs Commander in a neck-hold Arnold Schwarzenegger commando style. Lets DO this 'huh!' I'll do some Guerrilla tactics, you can give Air support ?

Funny the thought had actually already crossed my mind ! Don't remember if it was before or after your first post in the thread or not. Kinda even like a joint venture. Though that was just a thought, I'm not suggesting that since, well, not sure how that goes along with the contest plus it would affect the individual flavor of the works. Maybe you join in perhaps instead so we have more contestents ? And individually flavored works~

Hahah... leave the support to me! xD
And that's pretty much everything I can do, as my editing skills are very, very limited, which is why I wouldn't be able to join as a contestant... ><"

Also, I'm depending on you FinalPyre and Evac to make Sam into a man or eliminate him if he does not cooperate...

You can count on me, ma'am! Maybe not too much for the elimination part. I wouldn't be able to eliminate my little brother just like that. xD
 
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@Evac You don't need a lot of skills to join you know, just ask Renano. I don't have any editing skills that I'm aware of myself, I'll learn just some as I go depending how much time I find for it, but I intend to keep things simple anyway. And the dead line is a full two months. Otherwise I probably wouldn't have joined actually.

~There was even a brief idea of me filming myself shooting birds crashing down on the neighbors xD But; judge what time, want and energy you got for it yourself of course.


Ahmm so leave the support to you eh. Then you can support me by making something so terrible that it makes what ever I make look better xD Nah okay; dry jokes are dry.
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@Rena-joy Oh noes ! Not more Zombies around you've become SAMyfied.

/me patches rena's arm up firmly with clean bandages...~you don't know your own strength girl. きおつけてね! Then Accidentally swallows a drop running down over his lips; uhaw, mm %%% you taste sweet! o,,o

Takes some of the blood spilled for analyzing.
 
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Considering that people might be busy IRL two months to come up with a short video seems rather reasonable. An extra month might even be good, but the duration shouldn't extend for too long before people lose interest.
 
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/me comes back from Brandon

I believe that dear Checkmate has plans to make the forum more customisable for users. While I don't foresee myself taking advantage of any such features *cough*lazy*cough*, perhaps other users would appreciate them.

Oh cool. I'm really hoping they add a dark theme then. ASF is way too bright! :hypnotized:

Most forums I visit I have set to black or dark blue. :)
 
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Thank you everyone for your feedback.

The responses were all well-thought-out and discerning. I am glad we could shed light about the pros and cons of nanashi's proposal.

I would like to take brief moment to expand upon as to why I choose you to respond.

[MENTION=8332]samyeung46[/MENTION] ;

It is true that I chose you because you did support me with your banner. However, the main reason is because you are a fellow artist who understands the aesthetics. You 'see' with a slightly diffferent 'eye' compared to those who do not venture into the arts.

[MENTION=10646]unownHGSS[/MENTION] ;

Like Sam, one reason is because you are supporting my contest with the banner I made. The main reason is because I consider you a gifted sig-maker. You understand what works and doesn't for a signature, using those insights of balance and proportion to come into play.

[MENTION=25661]GenKiDan[/MENTION] ;

Like with the others, one reason is because you supported my contest. As for the actual reason, it is because you are one of the few who 'view things differently'. You can have similar aestheticism to Sam, but Sam has experience in the arts. You understand the principles of sig-making, but not to the extent as unown does. Consider it a 'natural ability' to discern the same things with a 'different eye'.

"The Wild Cards"

[MENTION=24034]Evac[/MENTION] ;

Consider yourself the leader of the Wild Cards because you are the one I had hoped to come and reply to nanashi's proposal.

If people don't know your background or what you can do, they can look at my first contest and see your entry.

You understand the technicalities and view things in a realistic, logistic manner.

[MENTION=37707]FinalPyre[/MENTION] ;

I consider you as a sub-commander. If Evac didn't respond, you'd take up the role of commander. Like Evac, you look at things a bit more logically. Sam, unown, and Genki can view things logically as well, but they are a bit more 'free' like art-wise, thought-wise, behavior-wise.

[MENTION=26445]Ralium[/MENTION] ;

You were actually a toss up as to whether or not I should include in the discussion. After much consideration, I concluded you were more like the 'rookie' or the 'ace'. You were here around the same time as I was on ASF. You'd offer your opinion as a regular everyday user. What solidified my choice was most likely that you made your own first sig.

[MENTION=67840]pichu655889[/MENTION] ;

Like Ralium, I considered your advice based on your status as a regular everyday user. I expected people to discuss the cons of nanashi's proposal, and I am glad you pointed out the few I was thinking. What solidified my choice was the fact that you were a recent person whom I have befriended. A 'fresh pair of eyes' if you will.

[MENTION=29193]nanashi1[/MENTION] ;

I do hope you have read and understood my intention for asking these individuals their opinions. Not only are they our friends, but just like you, they are unsure how things shall turn out. However, by examining the facts and selecting a few people based on their knowledge and overall personality, you can have a general idea as to how to go about your proposal.

They all offered valuable advice and they shall be mentioned in my message to Ignis. With this, I conclude the discussion of nanashi's proposal. I've done what I can and hope for the best.





About the contest: Please do not overthink this or go all crazy perfect. Even a slideshow of anime girl's breasts is fine as long as you can put it together properly.


I've seen people panic in my class or my father's office just because they can't think about alternatives to go about certain things. They think there is only one way to do something.

In an art contest about 8 years ago, everyone built miniature scaled temples, sculpted maidens, and did massive paintings... but what won the contest was just a simple drawing. It wasn't big and not flashy. And you can take a guess as to who won.

What I want to say is, please do not envision something grand and only do what you know you can do. Think about different possibilities on how to tackle a situation. Enjoy the process, learn from it, and love it~

Thank you.
 
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Oh x3 Hmm... did you win?..~ Would be interesting to see..~

Thank you for trusting me enough for this..~ :nekopara_greet:

Hmm.. pyre also did some artsy stuffs I think~

Whats brandon anyhow @_@
 
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The difference is that Pyre just like AhGwee, who despite the fact may know the concepts and have dealt with the arts, they did not consider or pursue a life-long career related to the arts.

Yes, I did win. They claim the entries though for their own personal use like exposure to local media just to show off they are 'one' with the community.

I don't have my entry, but I can replicate it. If you want a quick drawing, then it's easy to do.

If you want all the works, it will take some time like a month or so since we are busy with other important matters. Also, because it needs to be properly colored.. by hand, not tablet.

The contest was for the Cambodian Opera, "Where Elephants Weep". Since it was still new, they wanted more exposure and asked students to submit art pieces to showcase "Cambodia".

I drew two girls, back to back, day and night, traditional and modern, country life and city life, one looks down, the other looks up... there is sadness for one and hope for another.

The concept is simple and easy to understand.

I think second place was another drawing and third place was a poem.

Hmm... Brandon Event? Not making any guesses here.
 
Oh.. okies..~

Ahh its fine..~ You dont have to if you dont have the work..~

That is quite a nice idea x3 I can see the appeal of it just from the description~ Did it reflect the theme of the opera?~

Guess well have to find pyre to explain~
 
Fast drawing is fine. ^w^

I can come up with concepts fairly easily. The hard part is putting it down on paper and completing. Which is why I have many ideas taken and never thanked.

The opera was some love story. There wasn't even an elephant I think. Just some metaphor for the place where the two lovers meet. Cambodian style Romeo and Juliet, but happy ending.

I captured the feeling of hope and despair. That is what drew the judges to my drawing. Country girl all sad. City girl, with new life, new hope.

Pyre explaining... no Google?
 
If you say so~ x3

Hmm... makes me think of some story my dad told... he would usually pay during lunch when hanging out with friends... and it got to the point where it was just normal so they didnt really give thanks or anything...

Oh~ Hmm... I have no idea where elephants weep xD Watering holes? In the jungle? Mehs =w=

Feelings... they are somewhat difficult to capture accurately and convey... Was your style a more realistic one?

Brandon sounds like itll get a lot of random things from google xD
 
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[MENTION=18465]renano[/MENTION];

I am honored and will do my best to help out in whichever way possible ^^
Although, I wouldn't consider myself 'gifted' :3 Still learning even the basics of it. It's a compliment to hear that from you :runhappy:
 
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I do hope you have read and understood my intention for asking these individuals their opinions. Not only are they our friends, but just like you, they are unsure how things shall turn out. However, by examining the facts and selecting a few people based on their knowledge and overall personality, you can have a general idea as to how to go about your proposal.

They all offered valuable advice and they shall be mentioned in my message to Ignis. With this, I conclude the discussion of nanashi's proposal. I've done what I can and hope for the best.

Hmm... Yeah, me is also important the opinions of the others about this "possibility", because I don't want egoistic appear...- but if this possibility doesn't want work, then can I it understand. It can then what different than/as award/prize come, instead this - what I suggested have... But let we it see what the future for us brings for a chance/possibilities...^^

Edit: Could we please at least summarize (But in the following days of this week, not now suddenly!) the facts - especially the contest's theme, because I've the feeling that this still not 100% sure is, okay?
 
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Oh I...know anything about sig making.. :S /me tries to remember if he does

It will be a pleasure as long as I'm still around and available to be of some aid though if I can.


[MENTION=29193]nanashi1[/MENTION]; umh I didn't think the contest itself was limited to any kind of theme if thats what you where thinking. Unless maybe the theme itself is "themeless". But it's always the free reigns that poses the most difficulty in coming up with something isn't it ? The "burden" of endless possibilities.

edit: Oh I keep mentioning thew wrong nanashi .,
 
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; umh I didn't think the contest itself was limited to any kind of theme if thats what you where thinking. Unless maybe the theme itself is 'themeless'. But it's always the free reigns that poses the most difficulty in coming up with something isn't it ? The "burden" of many possibilities.

edit: Oh I keep mentioning thew wrong nanashi .,

Well, I've not said "Now" - but sometime in the next days, the description about the contest theme... But if it themeless is, is then also good - but it should at least an direction give will... - Currently me self either dunno, but something/somewhere... Understand you?

Edit: Don't forget the 1 than last to give to my u'name, then have you no problem^^

Edit2: Welcome Genki!
 
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Well, I've not said "Now" - but sometime in the next days, the description about the contest theme... But if it themeless is, is then also good - but it should at least an direction give will... - Currently me self either dunno, but something/somewhere... Understand you?

Edit: Don't forget the 1 than last to give to my u'name, then have you no problem^^

Edit2: Welcome Genki!



Yes I understand. It might be easier for you to feel creative and come up with some ideas if you had a hunch of what direction other people are going with ?
And also maybe stay clear of thinking about how it will appear to others, and instead try to jsut close your eyes and daydream a bit, about things that you find interesting, or likable. Perhaps enter a 3rd person perspective and ask yourself, what would you like to see ?

Yeah I noticed that. Think I might have found your old hideout as well lol. It was dusty.

"Edit3:" Thank U~^^
 
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Hmm.. pyre also did some artsy stuffs I think~

Yeah I don't think I've ever shown anything here though. I don't do much anymore once I ran away from art school decided that art would be a side thing to my career.
Whats brandon anyhow @_@

Hmm... Brandon Event? Not making any guesses here.

Guess well have to find pyre to explain~

Pyre explaining... no Google?

Brandon sounds like itll get a lot of random things from google xD

Brandon is a city a few hours from where I live. My brother and some relatives are living there now, so we went for the day to visit. :P
 
Ah. You ruined the suspense of Brandon. Without even resisting torture...
 
Yes I understand. It might be easier for you to feel creative and come up with some ideas if you had a hunch of what direction other people are going with ?
And also maybe stay clear of thinking about how it will appear to others, and instead try to jsut close your eyes and daydream a bit, about things that you find interesting, or likable. Perhaps enter a 3rd person perspective and ask yourself, what would you like to see ?

Yeah I noticed that. Think I might have found your old hideout as well lol. It was dusty.

Well, to be honest: Not really. But Somewhat with the currently season (Fall-season, not directly with the anime-tv-event meant) related theme - Maybe later Halloween or so...

Edit: Nanashi1 was since my start (except at my first account in ASF spring 2011, but it wasn't Nanashi1...) ther the only name - with the 1 behind.
 
Well you like dark themes better don't you ? Halloween is coming up so. You could take advantage of that.

But, I know it's not so easy, at least, because I can't figure something out either for the time being, but haven't given it much any thought yet either.
 
Well you like dark themes better don't you ? Halloween is coming up so. You could take advantage of that.

But, I know it's not so easy, at least, because I can't figure something out either for the time being, but haven't given it much any thought yet either.

Well, the contest goes until end November, right? - Where then on the way lies, that this the theme be can... - Because except Halloween know you a other world-wide event (Not the regional events!) in the Fall season?
 

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