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The araka doujin game is pretty disappointing tbh. It does have an NTR bad end route but it's very generic and cheap feeling. Art is alright but I think it would have been better as it's own thing than trying to ride on I'm a moralist's-success. The original game is still far superior in every aspect- even NTR feel imo despite it not being at all the focus there.

I'm posting again for the first time in a long time to mention this:
https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/announce/=/product_id/RJ01296007.html

This has been submitted for dlsites check and could be out in a day or two. I know the 3d can be a turn off and whatnot and it's not for everyone but this guy makes very strong titles with clear effort that goes beyond your usual 3d style game does. And they just keep getting better. If the 3d style doesn't throw you off- and especially if you actually like the look of it.. I highly recommend the streaming brothers game and the gravure wife game(which I believe is translated and on f95). I played them way back- neither are linear and both are surprisingly well done despite what screenshots might infer.

I'm excited for this next one which looks to be their biggest project yet. But it's got quite the pricetag on it of 3500yen?.. And the dev goes mostly under the radar so I wouldn't be surprised if it took a while if ever to show up here as an upload. The game is also officially translated(surely some AI program of course) in English and Chinese-..

The price isn't an issue for me but dlsite once again closed the other loophole I used to put points in my account to buy these games- so i'm asking if anyone wants to share it and is capable of still purchasing the game- i'd gladly throw money at their paypal to pay for my copy. Message me if you're interested in that.
 
The araka doujin game is pretty disappointing tbh. It does have an NTR bad end route but it's very generic and cheap feeling. Art is alright but I think it would have been better as it's own thing than trying to ride on I'm a moralist's-success. The original game is still far superior in every aspect- even NTR feel imo despite it not being at all the focus there.

I'm posting again for the first time in a long time to mention this:
https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/announce/=/product_id/RJ01296007.html

This has been submitted for dlsites check and could be out in a day or two. I know the 3d can be a turn off and whatnot and it's not for everyone but this guy makes very strong titles with clear effort that goes beyond your usual 3d style game does. And they just keep getting better. If the 3d style doesn't throw you off- and especially if you actually like the look of it.. I highly recommend the streaming brothers game and the gravure wife game(which I believe is translated and on f95). I played them way back- neither are linear and both are surprisingly well done despite what screenshots might infer.

I'm excited for this next one which looks to be their biggest project yet. But it's got quite the pricetag on it of 3500yen?.. And the dev goes mostly under the radar so I wouldn't be surprised if it took a while if ever to show up here as an upload. The game is also officially translated(surely some AI program of course) in English and Chinese-..

The price isn't an issue for me but dlsite once again closed the other loophole I used to put points in my account to buy these games- so i'm asking if anyone wants to share it and is capable of still purchasing the game- i'd gladly throw money at their paypal to pay for my copy. Message me if you're interested in that.
Does the gameplay similar with NTR legend?
 
Does the gameplay similar with NTR legend?

Each of their games has so far been a different gameplay style. With the gravure wife game you progress through a story by finding hints and items in a sort of point and click adventure while your wife does gravure shoots and Sunny(quite the villain who is returning for this new game- a pretty rude black guy who is a manipulative rapist)- escalates and sends you copies of the shoots. The idea of his style of shooting is to imagine things are happening(that are not supposed to actually happen but actually are because it's a ntr game) where stuff is put in front of those spots as censors. There's occasional glitches and things falling over to show you seconds of actual sex. But it also has multiple routes and bad ends that you get by choices ingame and the results of this minigame where you question your wife through a series of choices and choose to interrupt her or press the matter depending on what she says and what her explanations are.

The streaming brothers game is more indepth in that you have many choices to gain followers(passive income)- and play a minigame shmup type game and use your money on upgrades to achieve more money,followers, and progress the game. You can also spend the money on sex items and a sex dungeon and sort of things that you can get more bonus scenes for the heroines after they already super love you(but can still be stolen by brother with ntr conditions) You can spy on your brother with cameras who is a better gamer than you and also call the two girls who become the heroines and learn more about them. The NTR aspect here is pretty strong in both routes and technically avoidable but likely will be hit on without looking at the hints and scene unlock conditions. There's also a big RNG element of % chance for things to progress on brothers side but you're able to constantly skip ahead in time until things activate as you watch your brother do w/e it is he does. (gaming/masturbating usually)

So neither plays like ntrlegend but are unique in their own way. with the perspective of the one being NTR'd though and how the NTR is shown in the game the actual impact is greater than the ntr in ntrlegend. Both of the games are mystery perspective.

Also edit: The newest game puts you in role of a producer for idols- (the guy in the suit with a huge shadow on face to hide eyes)- You pick their schedules and such and I assume this raises their stats for their weekly performances which give you score along with minigames and such each day. That's my understanding but I think it'll have a lot more to it. It's not going to have netori to it.

Edit 2: Game is now out.. we'll see if it appears from any gracious uploader. it's currently 15.80 USD with coupon.
 
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So I got a chance to play this and... It's a letdown. It's much more of a scene viewer than their other 2 titles. And it feels rather unfinished. The animation freezes at the end of it's playtime without loops.. There is no way to even save the game despite the game telling you that you should save before certain events.

I think the dev rushed this one.. Either way I recommend their last 2 titles for sure.
 
For those having trouble buying from Dlsite. They have an option for purchasing points (1 point = 1 yen) from For Books. You can pay with a credit card or Google Pay in For Books. They send you an email with the code. You enter the code in your dlsite account and get the purchased points that can be used to buy goods.
 
Rascou has update a couple of posts about the new mother NTR game. Anyone have the update?

I just want to know if he really want to go with NTR route from the perspective of heroine's daughter ?
What about the netori guy ? Is he another ugly bastard ? .
 
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https://www.dlsite.com/maniax-touch/announce/=/product_id/RJ01277734.html

様々なNTRシチュエーション!
間男相手とデートをしてもらい、その内容を聞きながら手コキ射精
寝取らせセックスを生中継してもらいながらの鬱勃起
間男にフェラチオをしてあげながらの雑手コキ
寝取らせセックスを隠れて見て、自分とのセックスとは全く違う感じ方に動揺してしまう
闇市でAVを購入したら、ヒロインと間男のセックスだった
少年兵に筆おろし乱交パーティー
元彼に見せつけ露出セックス
兵士と喧嘩に負けて土下座お仕置き
主人公が寝てるベッドで本気セックス
ハーレム3Pセックス
寝取られ3Pセックス

Various NTR situations!

||Have her go on a date with the another man, then have ejaculation while listening to the details of the date

Have a depressed erection while having a live broadcast of a cuckold sex

Get a rough handjob while heroine giving a blowjob to the another man

Hide and watch a cuckold sex session, and then surprised by how different her sex with another man

Purchase an adult video on the black market and it's show the heroine having sex with the another man

Heroine having an orgy party to take the child soldier's virginity

Exhibitionist sex to show off to her ex-boyfriend

Lost a fight with a soldier and punished by forced dogeza

Have real sex in bed while the main character is sleeping

Harem threesome sex
or
Cuckold threesome sex
 
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Walnut Milk (くるみのみるく) is the best NTR novel on Syosetu Nocturne. An edited version will be published on Japanese Kindle.

Story is about the protagonist and his wife, Kurumi (synonymous with "walnut" or "くるみ"), who is an extremely kind-hearted school teacher. They have a happy life, though their night life could be better.

One day, when helping his wife's computer issue, he finds a hidden folder. This unfolds a series of events where after telling Kurumi it was a virus that he removed, he later poses as a hacker and virtually blackmails her to learn more about her past.

The focal point is the wife's involvement with a father-son duo who were involved in a horrific accident. The father is now a disabled ex-painter, and the son has burn scars and mental trauma.

Lascivous paintings are uncovered. The chaste wife becomes increasingly erotic. The couple's love life heats up. The past is slowly exposed.

There are 99 chapters (88 in main story and an 11 episode side), where each is important to read. It takes several hours to read in full but MTL (I used Google translate) works fairly well.

It has a happy ending from the author's PoV, but some readers find it contentious; it is genuinely intended to be happy, however, even though certain intentionally ambiguous parts result in motivations and parts of the plot to be deliberated. A series of hints are included throughout, and the author masterfully raises and lowers tension where appopriate.

I 100% recommend this web novel to anyone in this genre. I encountered it years ago but hadn't read it then, but happily revisited it recently. If anyone can find anything better then let me know.

This series is not perfect, but it is extremely gripping. I love it. At some future point, not anytime soon, I'll re-read it since various parts of the novel will appear differently, knowing in advance the twists and turns.

In summary, 5/5.
 
Walnut Milk (くるみのみるく) is the best NTR novel on Syosetu Nocturne. An edited version will be published on Japanese Kindle.

Story is about the protagonist and his wife, Kurumi (synonymous with "walnut" or "くるみ"), who is an extremely kind-hearted school teacher. They have a happy life, though their night life could be better.

One day, when helping his wife's computer issue, he finds a hidden folder. This unfolds a series of events where after telling Kurumi it was a virus that he removed, he later poses as a hacker and virtually blackmails her to learn more about her past.

The focal point is the wife's involvement with a father-son duo who were involved in a horrific accident. The father is now a disabled ex-painter, and the son has burn scars and mental trauma.

Lascivous paintings are uncovered. The chaste wife becomes increasingly erotic. The couple's love life heats up. The past is slowly exposed.

There are 99 chapters (88 in main story and an 11 episode side), where each is important to read. It takes several hours to read in full but MTL (I used Google translate) works fairly well.

It has a happy ending from the author's PoV, but some readers find it contentious; it is genuinely intended to be happy, however, even though certain intentionally ambiguous parts result in motivations and parts of the plot to be deliberated. A series of hints are included throughout, and the author masterfully raises and lowers tension where appopriate.

I 100% recommend this web novel to anyone in this genre. I encountered it years ago but hadn't read it then, but happily revisited it recently. If anyone can find anything better then let me know.

This series is not perfect, but it is extremely gripping. I love it. At some future point, not anytime soon, I'll re-read it since various parts of the novel will appear differently, knowing in advance the twists and turns.

In summary, 5/5.
Thanks for your recommendation!!
 
Walnut Milk (くるみのみるく) is the best NTR novel on Syosetu Nocturne. An edited version will be published on Japanese Kindle.

Story is about the protagonist and his wife, Kurumi (synonymous with "walnut" or "くるみ"), who is an extremely kind-hearted school teacher. They have a happy life, though their night life could be better.

One day, when helping his wife's computer issue, he finds a hidden folder. This unfolds a series of events where after telling Kurumi it was a virus that he removed, he later poses as a hacker and virtually blackmails her to learn more about her past.

The focal point is the wife's involvement with a father-son duo who were involved in a horrific accident. The father is now a disabled ex-painter, and the son has burn scars and mental trauma.

Lascivous paintings are uncovered. The chaste wife becomes increasingly erotic. The couple's love life heats up. The past is slowly exposed.

There are 99 chapters (88 in main story and an 11 episode side), where each is important to read. It takes several hours to read in full but MTL (I used Google translate) works fairly well.

It has a happy ending from the author's PoV, but some readers find it contentious; it is genuinely intended to be happy, however, even though certain intentionally ambiguous parts result in motivations and parts of the plot to be deliberated. A series of hints are included throughout, and the author masterfully raises and lowers tension where appopriate.

I 100% recommend this web novel to anyone in this genre. I encountered it years ago but hadn't read it then, but happily revisited it recently. If anyone can find anything better then let me know.

This series is not perfect, but it is extremely gripping. I love it. At some future point, not anytime soon, I'll re-read it since various parts of the novel will appear differently, knowing in advance the twists and turns.

In summary, 5/5.
Thank for your recommendation! This is one of the best (if not the best) novels I've read.

After finishing the novel, I wonder if Kurumi knew about her husband's desires deep down. The author kept mentioning her sharp intuition and maybe that's why she decided to visit the artist one last time?
 
Thank for your recommendation! This is one of the best (if not the best) novels I've read.

After finishing the novel, I wonder if Kurumi knew about her husband's desires deep down. The author kept mentioning her sharp intuition and maybe that's why she decided to visit the artist one last time?
You are welcome.

In response to your questions within spoilers, below are my speculations and/or factual statements based on original reading and having gone through the author's thoughts in Syosetu + personal blog. I do not recommend anyone expand this before completing the series -- you have been warned. I also apologize for poor wording, grammar, or ramblings since I wrote this in one shot and did not proofread.

The story has a theme of Kurumi being associated with sacrifice, and the last or semi-last main chapter even has the husband ruminating that she might think of the couple as one single entity, and the self-inflicted pain on their marriage being a form of "self-sacrifice".

The painter (Makabe) doesn't have much time left due to cancer obtained from treatment. She feels guilty and it's the reason why despite having always denied vaginal insertion, she starts asking for it in their recent months' meetings. However, he doesn't oblige due to her doing so out of sympathy rather than raw desire.

Kurumi is sent to the hotel by the husband who, based on the beginning of the main story's final chapter, has already seen the original DVD where she is sexually tortured, has fluids spread all over her body, and even has semen enter vaginally without penetration. This is probably his way of ensuring that she has no regrets.

(Note that Makabe anticipated the final meeting could happen based on Kurumi's personality and how the husband might respond in turn. This is speculated by the author himself in terms of how the character might act in response to a reader question, since it's not in the plot. Though the author also said that Makabe was supposedly genuine in willingness to jump out of the window, which in-story the husband doesn't want because then Kurumi might follow; hentai logic...)

Anyway, as a result, Kurumi being the hidden nymphomaniac tart saintess that she is, goes to the hotel with the mentality of submitting fully to Makabe due to it being farewell. Submission doesn't mean a romantic gesture since her husband remains the #1 priority and Makabe re-affirms that he has "lost" to the husband again.

The side story depicting the last 24 hours preceding the main story's final chapter are tricky to fully comprehend since there's a bit lost in translation throughout the novel, but continuing on:

The aforementioned final sendoff and heartfulness is highlighted with her finally comparing spousal sex with Makabe - which she adamantly never did before - where she admits that the painter is both phallicaly larger and better at sex; everyone involved in the orgy knows it won't happen again, nor will she ever leave her husband, and she is being heartful in the last acts. Plus, as she says, it's not really unknown; she also emphasized "big dicks" in earlier letters.

At the same time, she is obviously enthusiastically enjoying the masochistic sex -- much of it involving hentai logic about creampies. The part about her being in too much heat to worry about whether the broadcast will be sent to her husband - as Makabe threatened, and would not be well received by the husband - is designed to demonstrate that sexual fervor / downfall.

Makabe, on his part, in the side story is immediately revealed to be unsatisfied. He's angry and gnashing teeth since it's a reminder that all of his hard work in the preceding year trying to win her over (mainly before contracting terminal cancer) ended up being glorified foreplay for the couple.

Even though it's not new, it still rankles him that his finesse is wasted as the couple's spice. Thus, since he's ultimately on Kurumi's side for all that she did for the father-son duo, during their departure he tells her to immediately bring back the husband and have sex in the very bed where the over-night orgy took place.

On the last note, his bullshit about "repaying" the couple by making her more sensitive is actually introduced earlier in the novel during the main story. Even though he wanted her for himself (which could never happen based on Kurumi's personality, who resembles his departed wife, and paradoxically why he wants her so badly in conjunction with her sensitivity and circumstances), and is reiterated in the conclusion of the side story, that she can discover similar pleasure with her spouse now that it's been unmasked.

BTW, if anyone knows what the 7 Hiragana symbols in episode 96 mean, please let me know:
I thought it was some cliched form of "I love you", but I don't think that's 7 syllables even when twisted with permutations like "too".

Kurumi does like Makabe, but it's not really a romantic love. This is why the Ferrari vs. station wagon comparison by 1 of the readers was well received.

So, I'll go with "I forgive you", which can be written as "ゆるしてあげる". Not sure if it's thematically correct, though it kind of fits with her having sympathy for him and Makabe having some regrets, even if said regrets are not explicitly expounded upon.

This mystery drives me crazy!!

Revisiting the wife, this is extremely speculative:
There's a mystery about how much she planned and knew.

What is clear is that she felt guilty for a very long time, and prepared to tell her husband eventually. It's why she struck fast when the opportunity with the virus came about -- as later revealed, it was known to her at the onset there was no hacker, but it allowed her to unburden herself...

Slyly. Drip by drip, so that the husband did not immediately commit suicide, but the lies by omission betraying him further. As the husband admits, Kurumi set it up in a way he could accept it despite the various anguish, and the bitter and sweet outcome is more pleasant due to the bitterness. This is where the analogy with bitterness of the matcha? and sweetness of milk is probably supposed to be relevant.

The events of the side story are not yet known to the husband, but she says to Makabe that she will reveal what happened in the hotel room / supply the video footage at a later time. This aligned with the overall theme of "virtuous faithlessness".

What's not clear: did she somehow plan even more from the beginning? There's the aspect of BDSM images unrelated to her that were uncovered leading up to the main story's final reveal. However, it doesn't really align with the plot, so I'm guessing "no" and that she instead sought out the images once she was familiar with Makabe and his teachings.

Overall, she does clearly manipulate the MC and slowly instill into him the fact that she isn't as pure as he thinks she is as part of unraveling the truth. The very 1st novel erotic scene involves her exhibitionally playing with the waiter, and I think she caught onto the MC's response, and continued escalation from there.

She, of course, also plays with the readers' emotions, as one faithful reader said leading up to the end (and later came around to loving the story once it actually ended):
But Kurumi is unforgivable. It feels like it's been a while since I've hated a character this much. If Kurumi gets caught in a jet engine, it will be a super happy ending!

Ha ha ha.
 
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You are welcome.

In response to your questions within spoilers, below are my speculations and/or factual statements based on original reading and having gone through the author's thoughts in Syosetu + personal blog. I do not recommend anyone expand this before completing the series -- you have been warned. I also apologize for poor wording, grammar, or ramblings since I wrote this in one shot and did not proofread.

The story has a theme of Kurumi being associated with sacrifice, and the last or semi-last main chapter even has the husband ruminating that she might think of the couple as one single entity, and the self-inflicted pain on their marriage being a form of "self-sacrifice".

The painter (Makabe) doesn't have much time left due to cancer obtained from treatment. She feels guilty and it's the reason why despite having always denied vaginal insertion, she starts asking for it in their recent months' meetings. However, he doesn't oblige due to her doing so out of sympathy rather than raw desire.

Kurumi is sent to the hotel by the husband who, based on the beginning of the main story's final chapter, has already seen the original DVD where she is sexually tortured, has fluids spread all over her body, and even has semen enter vaginally without penetration. This is probably his way of ensuring that she has no regrets.

(Note that Makabe anticipated the final meeting could happen based on Kurumi's personality and how the husband might respond in turn. This is speculated by the author himself in terms of how the character might act in response to a reader question, since it's not in the plot. Though the author also said that Makabe was supposedly genuine in willingness to jump out of the window, which in-story the husband doesn't want because then Kurumi might follow; hentai logic...)

Anyway, as a result, Kurumi being the hidden nymphomaniac tart saintess that she is, goes to the hotel with the mentality of submitting fully to Makabe due to it being farewell. Submission doesn't mean a romantic gesture since her husband remains the #1 priority and Makabe re-affirms that he has "lost" to the husband again.

The side story depicting the last 24 hours preceding the main story's final chapter are tricky to fully comprehend since there's a bit lost in translation throughout the novel, but continuing on:

The aforementioned final sendoff and heartfulness is highlighted with her finally comparing spousal sex with Makabe - which she adamantly never did before - where she admits that the painter is both phallicaly larger and better at sex; everyone involved in the orgy knows it won't happen again, nor will she ever leave her husband, and she is being heartful in the last acts. Plus, as she says, it's not really unknown; she also emphasized "big dicks" in earlier letters.

At the same time, she is obviously enthusiastically enjoying the masochistic sex -- much of it involving hentai logic about creampies. The part about her being in too much heat to worry about whether the broadcast will be sent to her husband - as Makabe threatened, and would not be well received by the husband - is designed to demonstrate that sexual fervor / downfall.

Makabe, on his part, in the side story is immediately revealed to be unsatisfied. He's angry and gnashing teeth since it's a reminder that all of his hard work in the preceding year trying to win her over (mainly before contracting terminal cancer) ended up being glorified foreplay for the couple.

Even though it's not new, it still rankles him that his finesse is wasted as the couple's spice. Thus, since he's ultimately on Kurumi's side for all that she did for the father-son duo, during their departure he tells her to immediately bring back the husband and have sex in the very bed where the over-night orgy took place.

On the last note, his bullshit about "repaying" the couple by making her more sensitive is actually introduced earlier in the novel during the main story. Even though he wanted her for himself (which could never happen based on Kurumi's personality, who resembles his departed wife, and paradoxically why he wants her so badly in conjunction with her sensitivity and circumstances), and is reiterated in the conclusion of the side story, that she can discover similar pleasure with her spouse now that it's been unmasked.

BTW, if anyone knows what the 7 Hiragana symbols in episode 96 mean, please let me know:
I thought it was some cliched form of "I love you", but I don't think that's 7 syllables even when twisted with permutations like "too".

Kurumi does like Makabe, but it's not really a romantic love. This is why the Ferrari vs. station wagon comparison by 1 of the readers was well received.

So, I'll go with "I forgive you", which can be written as "ゆるしてあげる". Not sure if it's thematically correct, though it kind of fits with her having sympathy for him and Makabe having some regrets, even if said regrets are not explicitly expounded upon.

This mystery drives me crazy!!

Revisiting the wife, this is extremely speculative:
There's a mystery about how much she planned and knew.

What is clear is that she felt guilty for a very long time, and prepared to tell her husband eventually. It's why she struck fast when the opportunity with the virus came about -- as later revealed, it was known to her at the onset there was no hacker, but it allowed her to unburden herself...

Slyly. Drip by drip, so that the husband did not immediately commit suicide, but the lies by omission betraying him further. As the husband admits, Kurumi set it up in a way he could accept it despite the various anguish, and the bitter and sweet outcome is more pleasant due to the bitterness. This is where the analogy with bitterness of the matcha? and sweetness of milk is probably supposed to be relevant.

The events of the side story are not yet known to the husband, but she says to Makabe that she will reveal what happened in the hotel room / supply the video footage at a later time. This aligned with the overall theme of "virtuous faithlessness".

What's not clear: did she somehow plan even more from the beginning? There's the aspect of BDSM images unrelated to her that were uncovered leading up to the main story's final reveal. However, it doesn't really align with the plot, so I'm guessing "no" and that she instead sought out the images once she was familiar with Makabe and his teachings.

Overall, she does clearly manipulate the MC and slowly instill into him the fact that she isn't as pure as he thinks she is as part of unraveling the truth. The very 1st novel erotic scene involves her exhibitionally playing with the waiter, and I think she caught onto the MC's response, and continued escalation from there.

She, of course, also plays with the readers' emotions, as one faithful reader said leading up to the end (and later came around to loving the story once it actually ended):
But Kurumi is unforgivable. It feels like it's been a while since I've hated a character this much. If Kurumi gets caught in a jet engine, it will be a super happy ending!

Ha ha ha.
Thank you for your insights! It's nice to hear someone else's interpretation of the work.

I do agree with your speculations and thoughts (especially about Kurumi being caught in a jet engine hahah). After reading your reply in regards to whether 'if she planned everything from the beginning'; I'm also leaning towards towards no and that the husband simply let her go at the end because he knew she would otherwise carry guilt forever.

I was also very curios regarding the 7 Hiragana symbols in episode 96. I tried looking online for potential answers but couldn't come to any conclusions. Your theory on it being "I forgive you" make a lot sense, considering all that has led up to the story at that point. Though it would have been nice to have some official confirmation on what they were!
 
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