Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

[Smooth Che]

Do you guys know how to enter waffle's site http://www.waffle1999.com/game/71rinzin/ ?? i don't think it's the same problem as alice soft since i used to enter just fine =/

 

[LonerPrime]

Do you guys know how to enter waffle's site http://www.waffle1999.com/game/71rinzin/ ?? i don't think it's the same problem as alice soft since i used to enter just fine =/

Hmm, I managed to get in.

It is definitely along the same lines as AliceSoft as they are denying packets to requests on purpose. It is not as bad as AliceSoft though because unlike them waffle is enforcing a denial of content only on some countries it seems. When I tried it directly from my Indian IP, I couldn't get through but via a proxy United States IP I was able to access the website just fine. For now use www.youproxy.org as I can confirm the website is opening through it.

PS: Very sexy artwork.

 

[Redorc]

Ahh yea, cool. I like em both I guess. But not to the extreme. I mean too submissive and the NTR feels like shooting fish in a barrel. It was a done deal from the get go. No fun if it was too easy. Too dominating and the NTR factor stops suiting the character. A strong female character who sleeps with someone else other than her significant other is either a sign of netorase or she was not a victim of NTR in the first place at all. Instead she is the one who chose to sleep with someone else. No ntr there, just plain adultery. So yea a reasonable amount of sub/dom female is definitely my sweet zone.

Don't forget type B and sexual training ;)
I like that setting a lot actually... strong characters usually also became wicked in their own way, unlike the usual "broken" ntr girl.

 

[fobboy]

NTR game not yet hyped...Desire remaster ver.

 

[Eredar]

ok, i shouldn't talk with some brainless, neto-riru is different meaning with neto-rareru , in english they are the same, cuckold. this fucking man don't want to use English and try to act like he know about Japanese look at this retard comment
he said they are same, yeah, in english, different in JP 1 passive 1 active, so if they are the same in english why shouldn't you use english and try to say -riru = -rareru?

 

[joachim]

orcsoft game soon.. and on may waffle and anim.. hmmmmm mmhmmm

probably have to wait for months to play the anim game anyway.. :( but yea waffle game looks promising, i liked waffle games, but not sure how their approach to ntr will be.

their last netorase/partner swap game was so-so, borderline bad actually for me

 

[JealousCupid]

Ochiru Hitozuma Animation TL Patch
http://rattanmantrans.tumblr.com/post/159703864955/ochiru-hitozuma-animation-english-translation

Translator's Note
http://rattanmantrans.tumblr.com/post/159703861310/tl-note-new-engine-means-pain

 

[LonerPrime]

ok, i shouldn't talk with some brainless, neto-riru is different meaning with neto-rareru , in english they are the same, cuckold. this fucking man don't want to use English and try to act like he know about Japanese look at this retard comment View attachment 15186
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he said they are same, yeah, in english, different in JP 1 passive 1 active, so if they are the same in english why shouldn't you use english and try to say -riru = -rareru?

The western concept of cheating is linear:

If a woman sleeps with someone else apart from her significant other and is not aware of her activities, she is committing adultery.

If a woman sleeps with someone else apart from her significant other and is aware of her activities, then she is committing cuckoldry.

This is why most western porn revolves around husband/boyfriend sitting near the bed while the girl gets fucked in front of him. Sometimes he is shown to enjoy this scene and sometimes he is not, depending if he likes watching his girl being fucked by someone else or he is too weak/blackmailed into silently watching. Either way that is where western definition starts and ends.

Now the Japanese, as usual, go quite deep into the concept. For them cheating is not so much an adultery but more of a cuckoldry.

If a woman sleeps with someone else apart from her significant other without their knowledge, it is a netorare. Most games are focused around this theme in particular and is shown from the husband/bf's point of view. This theme is subdivided into NTR Type A, Type B and Type C. Type A signifies a heroine cheating willingly and enjoying every second of it. Type B signifies a heroine initially unwilling but eventually changing her mind and ending with her enjoying the sex con sensually. Finally Type C signifies extreme blackmail/coercion where the heroine is forced from start to end into having sex against her will.

If a woman sleeps with someone else apart from her significant other without their knowledge, is is a netori. Second most focused theme with the sole difference from netorare is the fact that this is from the perspective of the guy who steals away the girl from the husband/bf. The three subdivisions of Type A, B and C apply here as well.

If a woman sleeps with someone else apart from her significant other with their knowledge, it is a netorase. Sadly the least focused theme and my personal favorite. The perspective in this genre keeps changing from husband to wife depending on the situation. The three subdivisions don't apply here at all as a new subdivision called "Protagonist-organised Netorare" is used instead.

Now why did I write such a long wall of post? Because I was kind of amused and couldn't smile at the irony. This exact situation you got into was somehow predicted by our very own forum member DiabolicalGenius. Till recently, the term "NTR" was used loosely to represent the three themes mentioned above but all of that was recently changed. Here is a quote from Diabolical himself:

I looked it up and there are new terms on 2chan. NTR still means netorare, but it seems some people over there have gotten tired of everything being lumped under NTR and R and L are interchangable in japanese. So now NTL is being used to mean netori to distinguish them, treating it as netoli instead of netori, which sound much the same when japanese say it. Also, there is NTRS too which is being used to mean netorase. So that NTR lovers on 2chan can keep them clear and stop getting it mixed up all the time, which is a good idea right?
Probably won't help with all the casuals online in the english speaking world who know what NTR is and won't let little people like us who claim to know a thing or two about it tell them they're wrong.......

Couldn't help but lol a bit. Anyhow, netorare now is NTR, netori is NTL and netorase is NTRS. Though as DG said himself, English speaking ego maniacs will get a headache trying to remember something like this so don't be too hopeful about educating the ignorant masses.

 

[joachim]

ok, i shouldn't talk with some brainless, neto-riru is different meaning with neto-rareru , in english they are the same, cuckold. this fucking man don't want to use English and try to act like he know about Japanese look at this retard comment View attachment 15186
View attachment 15188
he said they are same, yeah, in english, different in JP 1 passive 1 active, so if they are the same in english why shouldn't you use english and try to say -riru = -rareru?

I would not argue with person who believe netori == netorare in the first place haha, shows how shallow their knowledge regarding netorare as a genre itself. Probably the fastest way for you to get them to understand is to let them play 2 game, 1 netori and 1 netorare and ask him again "soo how was it?" one game, you steal someone's wife, while the other, your wife/significant other got stolen.

i would say he is a lost cause if he still insist they are both the same :D

 

[Eredar]

The western concept of cheating is linear:

If a woman sleeps with someone else apart from her significant other and is not aware of her activities, she is committing adultery.

If a woman sleeps with someone else apart from her significant other and is aware of her activities, then she is committing cuckoldry.

This is why most western porn revolves around husband/boyfriend sitting near the bed while the girl gets fucked in front of him. Sometimes he is shown to enjoy this scene and sometimes he is not, depending if he likes watching his girl being fucked by someone else or he is too weak/blackmailed into silently watching. Either way that is where western definition starts and ends.

Now the Japanese, as usual, go quite deep into the concept. For them cheating is not so much an adultery but more of a cuckoldry.

If a woman sleeps with someone else apart from her significant other without their knowledge, it is a netorare. Most games are focused around this theme in particular and is shown from the husband/bf's point of view. This theme is subdivided into NTR Type A, Type B and Type C. Type A signifies a heroine cheating willingly and enjoying every second of it. Type B signifies a heroine initially unwilling but eventually changing her mind and ending with her enjoying the sex con sensually. Finally Type C signifies extreme blackmail/coercion where the heroine is forced from start to end into having sex against her will.

If a woman sleeps with someone else apart from her significant other without their knowledge, is is a netori. Second most focused theme with the sole difference from netorare is the fact that this is from the perspective of the guy who steals away the girl from the husband/bf. The three subdivisions of Type A, B and C apply here as well.

If a woman sleeps with someone else apart from her significant other with their knowledge, it is a netorase. Sadly the least focused theme and my personal favorite. The perspective in this genre keeps changing from husband to wife depending on the situation. The three subdivisions don't apply here at all as a new subdivision called "Protagonist-organised Netorare" is used instead.

Now why did I write such a long wall of post? Because I was kind of amused and couldn't smile at the irony. This exact situation you got into was somehow predicted by our very own forum member DiabolicalGenius. Till recently, the term "NTR" was used loosely to represent the three themes mentioned above but all of that was recently changed. Here is a quote from Diabolical himself:



Couldn't help but lol a bit. Anyhow, netorare now is NTR, netori is NTL and netorase is NTRS. Though as DG said himself, English speaking ego maniacs will get a headache trying to remember something like this so don't be too hopeful about educating the ignorant masses.

at least there is someone know JP, of course in English they are use the same word: cuckold, but in JP they are different meaning, but i can't copy paste your quote to him, or even if i do, he will still say: "they are the same, they are cuckold, netorare = netori = cuckold" <<<< actually it took about 4 hrs to explain it but he still say they are the same, oh well, i gave up, in english cheated or being cheated is different and yeah in JP is different, but using the same word: cheat and he use that "cheat" word to tell me they are the same

I would not argue with person who believe netori == netorare in the first place haha, shows how shallow their knowledge regarding netorare as a genre itself. Probably the fastest way for you to get them to understand is to let them play 2 game, 1 netori and 1 netorare and ask him again "soo how was it?" one game, you steal someone's wife, while the other, your wife/significant other got stolen.

i would say he is a lost cause if he still insist they are both the same :D

poorly he say: who love cuckold are dogs

ok, this is my really painful experiment , do not talk with someone who don't know any shit about Japanese and try to be retard by using it

 

[joachim]

at least there is someone know JP, of course in English they are use the same word: cuckold, but in JP they are different meaning, but i can't copy paste your quote to him, or even if i do, he will still say: "they are the same, they are cuckold, netorare = netori = cuckold" <<<< actually it took about 4 hrs to explain it but he still say they are the same, oh well, i gave up, in english cheating or to be cheated is different and yeah in JP is different, but using the same word: cheat and he use that "cheat" word to tell me they are the same


poorly he say: who love cuckold are dogs

you know what? if he still insist on the terms cuckoldry, just say to him, in netori you are the BULL fucking others wife, in netorare your wife fucked by the bull without your knowledge, in netorase you call/organised the bull to fuck your wife. simple.

if he still dont get it, just label him as brain damaged and go on with your life.

 

[Eredar]

you know what? if he still insist on the terms cuckoldry, just say to him, in netori you are the BULL fucking others wife, in netorare your wife fucked by the bull without your knowledge, in netorase you call/organised the bull to fuck your wife. simple.

if he still dont get it, just label him as brain damaged and go on with your life.

i did explain like that for 4hrs ago and he still say they are the same, i think just left "it" be and move on

 

[progste]

Ochiru Hitozuma Animation TL Patch
http://rattanmantrans.tumblr.com/post/159703864955/ochiru-hitozuma-animation-english-translation

Translator's Note
http://rattanmantrans.tumblr.com/post/159703861310/tl-note-new-engine-means-pain

I don't get why he would keep accepting requests if he's not that interested in the chosen title, but as long as he keeps translating games I'm happy =)

 

[Valvatorez]

So, what did you boyz think of the demo of the upcoming waffle game? I like the past works of the main artist working on the game, the art direction is pretty good, but.... it came across pretty generic on the whole to me. Hopefully we'll be surprised with excellent writing upon the release of the full game.

About that new anim game... if only they can capture the magic of the "Homestay" manga series, then, damn. The character designs and art direction so far look impossibly boring though

 

[joachim]

So, what did you boyz think of the demo of the upcoming waffle game? I like the past works of the main artist working on the game, the art direction is pretty good, but.... it came across pretty generic on the whole to me. Hopefully we'll be surprised with excellent writing upon the release of the full game.

About that new anim game... if only they can capture the magic of the "Homestay" manga series, then, damn. The character designs and art direction so far look impossibly boring though

yea i agree with you, the new waffle game judging only from demo seems really generic. but we will see the finished product, finger cross!

orcsoft demo one... it feels a little bit like autobahn's tsuma kanraku, protag asking for the villain of the proof of the cheating and wife feels like a reluctant slut. but sex scenes was pretty good, looking more and more like netorase game this one (which is fine by me!)

 

[straight.shota]

Two more days till the Orcsoft game.

Lately I can't be satisfied when the the guy cums one or twice in the sex scenes, I mean the typical blowjob (cum) then fucking (cum) sex scenes. If the sex scenes don't have 3 or more loads from the guy it's not longer good for me (better if there are multiple positions like in the panoramic sex scenes). In those 2-loads scenes, I can't help but thinking that the NTR guy doesn't hold a candle to other NTR guys (like the ones from Orcsoft, Venus, Anim, etc.) It seems my likes in NTR are getting narrower and narrower. Anyone else have this problem?

 

[joachim]

Two more days till the Orcsoft game.

Lately I can't be satisfied when the the guy cums one or twice in the sex scenes, I mean the typical blowjob (cum) then fucking (cum) sex scenes. If the sex scenes don't have 3 or more loads from the guy it's not longer good for me (better if there are multiple positions like in the panoramic sex scenes). In those 2-loads scenes, I can't help but thinking that the NTR guy doesn't hold a candle to other NTR guys (like the ones from Orcsoft, Venus, Anim, etc.) It seems my likes in NTR are getting narrower and narrower. Anyone else have this problem?

yup same here, although i do think it's borderline nonsense of how many times these guys can cum, but yea once you get used to it, other vanilla sex where its only 1 or 2 times the protag can cum.. feels bland.

orcsoft wont disappoint then, their antagonists always has crazy stamina, heck in the demo itself he cum 7 times i think, 1 blowjob, 1 boob job, 5 sex so yea expect great hot things in 2 days! hopefully it get released on time in dlsite

 

[progste]

It's the hentai way, guys can cum 10 times and the girls reach orgasm at the first thrusth, it's just more fun =p

 

[Asphyx]

interesting to see m1zuki's patreon almost reaching $1000 per translation. Looks like it isnt stopping anytime soon either

 

[DiabolicalGenius]

i did explain like that for 4hrs ago and he still say they are the same, i think just left "it" be and move on

If it got to that point with him still saying the same thing no matter how you explained, then it sounds like he was trolling you the whole time. He probably knew pretty much what you meant, but thought it was more funny to keep winding you up. People can be jerks.

 

[lachferagh]

Guys, any links to a proper crack or something for that Anim game 壁の向こうの妻の嬌声2? Actually I'm not even sure if crack is the problem because when I try to open the game, it says "emotedriver.dll is missing".

 

[LonerPrime]

[MENTION=120199]lachferagh[/MENTION]; The crack that surfaced recently works just fine. Though personally I never tried it but a lot of folks reported success playing the game with the new crack. That being said, since you are reporting a file missing error, this most probably is a sign of corrupted data. Here is the emotedriver.dll from my game copy. Paste it in the game directory by replacing C: with whatever directory the game is installed in your system:

C:\anim\壁の向こうの妻の嬌声２\data\emotedriver.dll

Hopefully that is the only file that was lost. Otherwise I recommend running a rehash of the game files if you grabbed it from a torrent to clarify if you are missing something else as well.

 

[Valvatorez]

Two more days till the Orcsoft game.

Lately I can't be satisfied when the the guy cums one or twice in the sex scenes, I mean the typical blowjob (cum) then fucking (cum) sex scenes. If the sex scenes don't have 3 or more loads from the guy it's not longer good for me

Not quite, though the new Orcsoft game is clearly of the bombastic type so you should be fine. My personal fav is the NTR guy being forced to wear a rubber and first and slowly breaking the defenses of the heroine character until she loses her resolve. From the previews, this game surely won't disappoint for both of us it seems

 

[Eredar]

If it got to that point with him still saying the same thing no matter how you explained, then it sounds like he was trolling you the whole time. He probably knew pretty much what you meant, but thought it was more funny to keep winding you up. People can be jerks.

look, this is disaster, 2 people, or 3 (already copy paste from someone explained NTR, NTRS, NTL) are explaining and retarder keep retarding

 

[Animefan_09]

interesting to see m1zuki's patreon almost reaching $1000 per translation. Looks like it isnt stopping anytime soon either

That is great news, the guy does an amazing job and certainly deserves it, maybe one day he will earn enough to translate full time, meaning he will translate in "normal" hours instead of using his free time and wasting himself.