Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

[greenlittleman]

Newest Atelier Sakura game is cool and rather unique.
https://vndb.org/v25788#main
It is ntr type A in which ntr-guy "steal" the girl only if MC said to him what he "likes her as family" and if he said what he "likes her romantically" then ntr-dude just give up for the sake of his bro. Nicest ntr-guy ever, lol. Also there is whole route for later choice which is kind of forced on the first playthrough, you basically get two games in one - which is very nice as you can really invest emotionally into heroine (she is also one of the cutest girls I've seen in atelier game). Though there is one thing I kind of missed (as I haven't read game completely yet) - is if "good route" is actually real or it is just kind of "loop which can be escaped only by choosing ntr route".

 

[Redorc]

Sakurasaku koubou working on their next game- teased the look of a new character (childhood friend) https://twitter.com/kikko_shibaru/status/1149186961002733568

I don't usually like hypno- I feel like it's lazy to do as NTR and it is.. But i've actually enjoyed the 4 games from them. (minority hearts 6-7.. rest were just CG sets and ntrosana 1+2..) It's a good mystery angle that lets you play entirely from male POV- so you're missing out on a lot of CGs until you play from netori guy perspective but I like to see that option existing. Game is very nukige so the art is a big part and it's not for everyone(excessive cum and rough) but it doesn't bother me. I'll be looking forward to more from them.

And assuming this isn't a sequel to ntrosana and a new game entirely.. then perhaps they'll do away with so much hypno/mind control and test the waters with more corruption NTR or something like it. I know they listen to fan feedback and are open to the idea of mixing things up. It's just what got them their start so it would be breaking their mold to try much else.

Very nice design!
I really loved the two mind control ntr mystery games, and usually I'm not super fan of mixing ntr with mind control.

 

[Osni]

So, did anyone play White Blue to give us some insight on how it is? From the premise and the heroine tied up in a lot of images in the gallery I am very scheptical.

 

[Animefan_09]

https://exhentai.org/g/1444589/60398614bd/ now we omly need the game....also i am really liing that artist.

Also https://exhentai.org/s/d2a3437b08/1426419-32 anyone willing to transalte this? seriously even only the text indicating page would be great, although like i said earlier anyone knows who translated the other terasy work.....

 

[Yosef30]

https://exhentai.org/s/d2a3437b08/1426419-32 anyone willing to transalte this? seriously even only the text indicating page would be great, although like i said earlier anyone knows who translated the other terasy work.....

Wow- that's like all of my NTR fetishes together. Hopefully someone picks it up.

 

[Mr Abductor]

So Pinpoint's Gyaru NTR game comes out tomorrow, they've had a good enough track record so i'm excited, liked that its the same team that was on their last Netorase game, hoping for at least 2 endings again.

 

[xjdxdouglas]

it's a shame that this one don't have a tranlastion https://nhentai.net/g/46368/

 

[Yosef30]

FAGS has been teasing this big update for so long. He really needs to bring it out!... a Huge update for Sayoko.. And a lot of possibilities for NTR scenes. Firstly- a haunted house visit-.. With silhouettes on the other side of the thin walls- lots can be worked with on that. And later also included a big summer beach vacation too. He wanted to release it in June but apparently couldn't get around to it.

Keeping hopes high but the wait is stressful :/

 

[Yadoumi]

Atelier Sakura's game for September has a gyaru wife:

https://twitter.com/Atelier__Sakura/status/1149496911918858243

 

[stupid_army]

Atelier Sakura's game for September has a gyaru wife:

https://twitter.com/Atelier__Sakura/status/1149496911918858243

OOOH she looks cute too!

 

[Action Bastard]

Still alive! Rant about the latest pin-point game incoming...

 

[Lianai]

FAGS has been teasing this big update for so long. He really needs to bring it out!... a Huge update for Sayoko.. And a lot of possibilities for NTR scenes. Firstly- a haunted house visit-.. With silhouettes on the other side of the thin walls- lots can be worked with on that. And later also included a big summer beach vacation too. He wanted to release it in June but apparently couldn't get around to it.

Keeping hopes high but the wait is stressful :/

Yeah and the issue is that every time he posts something on Ci-en, it's for saying "please be patient". It's so frustrating :D

But I've some hope for this update when I was a bit disappointed by the previous one. And there is still one scene I'd like him to put in the game and this is this one. I don't know if he will add it or not, but swapping girlfriends with a stranger or even giving Sayoko to a stranger in a karaoke would be great!

 

[grundy122]

Lately I've been trying to search for really old ntr games. Mostly by going to DLSite and sorting by old to new, then googling it.

Unsurprisingly, its hard to find stuff >_>

Anyone ever heard of 人妻オ○ンコ徹底独占の5日間? Even the circle that made it, clickturn, yields zero results.

 

[Yosef30]

Lately I've been trying to search for really old ntr games. Mostly by going to DLSite and sorting by old to new, then googling it.

Unsurprisingly, its hard to find stuff >_>

I've been collecting rare games for a long long time. My external has a TB of obscure Hgames- most of which are NTR. The obsession I have is probably less about the content and just because of the collection itself. Either way- my upload is trash so I can't really give you much but if you have a genre you particularly like I might be able to give you some recs or upload it if it's small(and if I have it.. which I probably do..) That one in particular you mentioned I don't have.. The artstyle reminds me of another dev that I really don't bother with.




Also currently uploading a small gift for the thread and i'll edit this post with the link if all goes well in just a little while.
The protag has a girl he likes- a sporty tomboyish athletic girl. The kind that works so well for NTR usually. He accidentally lets her name slip when talking to the class Bully who sits behind him. Throughout the month he keeps having delusions something may be wrong- like hearing her name in a conversation and kissing sounds- only to find out she and the bully were talking and the sound was just her chewing gum. But the fact they were talking at all really sets his nerve on edge... Is everything really fine?..

The plot progression is a series of ends. Each time you hit one- you restart the game to another route.
It's a simple ADV with choices. I couldn't find it on any torrent site and get no hits searching it on this site and no one has requested it- so I doubt many people have it. Anyway- I feel like it's page spoils much of the game so i'm going to let everyone who cares to dl it go in blind.

https://mega.nz/#!wd8iBaQD!Qdg50zo6BlNUQnmeFCpVIgYqlmSE63Z3GUBkERwLUMg >here it is- probably won't be up forever. Hopefully it uploaded fine.

 

[maddogrd]

I've been collecting rare games for a long long time. My external has a TB of obscure Hgames- most of which are NTR. The obsession I have is probably less about the content and just because of the collection itself. Either way- my upload is trash so I can't really give you much but if you have a genre you particularly like I might be able to give you some recs or upload it if it's small(and if I have it.. which I probably do..) That one in particular you mentioned I don't have.. The artstyle reminds me of another dev that I really don't bother with.




Also currently uploading a small gift for the thread and i'll edit this post with the link if all goes well in just a little while.
The protag has a girl he likes- a sporty tomboyish athletic girl. The kind that works so well for NTR usually. He accidentally lets her name slip when talking to the class Bully who sits behind him. Throughout the month he keeps having delusions something may be wrong- like hearing her name in a conversation and kissing sounds- only to find out she and the bully were talking and the sound was just her chewing gum. But the fact they were talking at all really sets his nerve on edge... Is everything really fine?..

The plot progression is a series of ends. Each time you hit one- you restart the game to another route.
It's a simple ADV with choices. I couldn't find it on any torrent site and get no hits searching it on this site and no one has requested it- so I doubt many people have it. Anyway- I feel like it's page spoils much of the game so i'm going to let everyone who cares to dl it go in blind.

Do you have 肉贄生徒会 ～美姉妹屈服～ https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ093246.html?

 

[Mr Abductor]

Looks like i'll be waiting for that 2nd Homestay Anim game to sate my hunger lol

Quick summary for that Gyaru Pinpoint game

Spoiler: KNKL

Game floats around the heroine, netori guy and MC. Mainly the heroine and the MC as a close 2nd

-MC is a movie buff, goes to a movie club where he writes up reviews and watches movies at
-Heroine joins the club, becomes close to the MC, both become attracted to each other throughout the story due to their love of movies and attractive good qualities
-Both the heroine and MC can't make the move on each other due to being shy, but eventually the MC asks her out to the cinema sometime in the upcoming summer holiday
-Throughout the MC and heroine are getting closer, the netori guy gains an interest in the heroine, the heroine rejects his typical suave guy advances, so he steps back for while and comes with a different approach, to gain her approval by becoming a movie buff like them.

Summer holiday

-Heroine is caught off guard by the netori guy on the her way to some volunteer stuff at school, now with all his movie facts he surprises and impresses the heroine momentarily and asks her out to the cinema in which she accepts as she thinks he isn't as bad as people say and legit believes he isn't just there to get into her pants.
-On there way back from the cinema, netori guy sneaks in a kiss to the heroine and takes a picture of the scene, telling her he'll delete it if she goes out with him throughout the summer holiday. This is where the typical blackmail shit we've seen a hundred times start.
-As you can guess the sex escalates, MC invitations out get rejected, heroine becomes more corrupt from the sex and eventually becomes a gyaru and officially goes out with the netori guy
-After the summer holidays are over the heroine skips out going to the movie club, spending all her time fucking the netori guy

Choice 1 (top choice)

-MC gives up on her and lets nature takes it course
-Some time passes and he gets an invitation to watch the heroine fuck the netori guy blindfolded, this escalates to randoms whom she isn't aware of (scummy netori guy is making money off this), MC just watches all of this in shame lol
-Some time later the netori guy bullshits a story to the heroine that he needs lots of money or he'll be kidnapped (i think) so he begrudgingly asks heroine to whore herself out as a prostitute to make money to pay off his debt, she does lol
-Few pornos later, the netori guy offers the MC a job of being the cameraman for his new pornos, which he accepts, MC films the heroine fucking tons of dudes for a day straight and runs out the room around the end in disgust, the end.

Choice 2 (bottom choice)

-The MC has hope and tries to bring back the heroine back to normal, throughout the story he tries talking her out of dating the netori guy, she dismisses him constant throughout.
-Netori guys birthday comes up where the heroine gets drugged and drunk, fucking around again. She comes home really late and gets into an argument with her parents which results in her leaving.
-Days or weeks past and no one has seen her around, teachers, students and MC are worried for her. Some time later the MC gets a surprise e-mail from the netori guy, its live stream of him having sex with the heroine, netori guy is making money fucking her from donations (i think)
-Final scene, she has tattoos over her body, still fucking the netori online to get money, MC hopeless watches calling himself worthless and useless, the end

 

[Animefan_09]

Looks like i'll be waiting for that 2nd Homestay Anim game to sate my hunger lol

Quick summary for that Gyaru Pinpoint game

Spoiler: KNKL

Game floats around the heroine, netori guy and MC. Mainly the heroine and the MC as a close 2nd

-MC is a movie buff, goes to a movie club where he writes up reviews and watches movies at
-Heroine joins the club, becomes close to the MC, both become attracted to each other throughout the story due to their love of movies and attractive good qualities
-Both the heroine and MC can't make the move on each other due to being shy, but eventually the MC asks her out to the cinema sometime in the upcoming summer holiday
-Throughout the MC and heroine are getting closer, the netori guy gains an interest in the heroine, the heroine rejects his typical suave guy advances, so he steps back for while and comes with a different approach, to gain her approval by becoming a movie buff like them.

Summer holiday

-Heroine is caught off guard by the netori guy on the her way to some volunteer stuff at school, now with all his movie facts he surprises and impresses the heroine momentarily and asks her out to the cinema in which she accepts as she thinks he isn't as bad as people say and legit believes he isn't just there to get into her pants.
-On there way back from the cinema, netori guy sneaks in a kiss to the heroine and takes a picture of the scene, telling her he'll delete it if she goes out with him throughout the summer holiday. This is where the typical blackmail shit we've seen a hundred times start.
-As you can guess the sex escalates, MC invitations out get rejected, heroine becomes more corrupt from the sex and eventually becomes a gyaru and officially goes out with the netori guy
-After the summer holidays are over the heroine skips out going to the movie club, spending all her time fucking the netori guy

Choice 1 (top choice)

-MC gives up on her and lets nature takes it course
-Some time passes and he gets an invitation to watch the heroine fuck the netori guy blindfolded, this escalates to randoms whom she isn't aware of (scummy netori guy is making money off this), MC just watches all of this in shame lol
-Some time later the netori guy bullshits a story to the heroine that he needs lots of money or he'll be kidnapped (i think) so he begrudgingly asks heroine to whore herself out as a prostitute to make money to pay off his debt, she does lol
-Few pornos later, the netori guy offers the MC a job of being the cameraman for his new pornos, which he accepts, MC films the heroine fucking tons of dudes for a day straight and runs out the room around the end in disgust, the end.

Choice 2 (bottom choice)

-The MC has hope and tries to bring back the heroine back to normal, throughout the story he tries talking her out of dating the netori guy, she dismisses him constant throughout.
-Netori guys birthday comes up where the heroine gets drugged and drunk, fucking around again. She comes home really late and gets into an argument with her parents which results in her leaving.
-Days or weeks past and no one has seen her around, teachers, students and MC are worried for her. Some time later the MC gets a surprise e-mail from the netori guy, its live stream of him having sex with the heroine, netori guy is making money fucking her from donations (i think)
-Final scene, she has tattoos over her body, still fucking the netori online to get money, MC hopeless watches calling himself worthless and useless, the end

I will give the ntr guy points for actually working to get the oportunity, but from what you say the game goes downhill after she is corrupted, there isn't much fun is the MC has no hope xD although the corruption process sounds fun (i love it when they have to ditch dates with the MC)

 

[Mr Abductor]

I will give the ntr guy points for actually working to get the oportunity, but from what you say the game goes downhill after she is corrupted, there isn't much fun is the MC has no hope xD although the corruption process sounds fun (i love it when they have to ditch dates with the MC)

Should of read over what i wrote. Also i meant begrudglingly with quotes lol but then again, you take one look at the netori and you can see straight through him.

Yes, when there's no hope it gets boring, why i prefer actual relationships in my NTR novels, Wife/husband parings being my favourite because all those vows and years together, being torn apart makes it all the more satisfying. Hate it when its just a pairing where the two share feelings for each other, but aren't in a relationship (moreso when they don't confess them) as i don't get that taboo feeling as much when shit goes haywire for one of them.

 

[Siegfried]

Also currently uploading a small gift for the thread and i'll edit this post with the link if all goes well in just a little while.

Thanks for sharing! This is the first NTR game I ever bought, back when it was possible to buy from DLsite without making an account. The game is unvoiced but still worth playing.

Spoiler: Spoiler

Iirc, towards the end of the game there's a (surprising, at least for me) plot twist that increases the sense of betrayal. That twist is the only reason I remember the game at all.

 

[Action Bastard]

Heya, brothers!

Ya’ll have been busy! Think I read like a six month backlog of posts a couple weeks ago. Hope everyone is doing well or at least staying alive.

I hope someone likes the new pin-point game cause despite looking forward to it, it definitely wasn’t for me. I love corruption and I love me some gyaru, but for me, I think this might be the most phoned in version of it ever. It has a good chance of going down as a prime example of how not to do an NTR game or a corruption game. At least until someone else fucks up bigger! :D

I know some people will really enjoy it, and it does alright for pure nukige scene material, but I can’t help but be a bit disappointed.

Spoiler: Old man yells at cloud

If you’ll allow me to indulge a bit of negativity , it really feels like the basic plot of a lot of Jinsei’s older stuff only done nowhere near as well. I don’t mind generic scenarios, but this one just felt supremely half-assed and there wasn’t enough to hold my interest between scenes. I even skimmed through a lot of those after I knew what I was getting.

I’ll fully admit to not being super tuned in and I very likely missed a couple good points, but after I stopped caring it was hard to waste hours I should have been sleeping reading a weak story. My boy Mr Abductor did a good job of summarizing the basic points and saved me the trouble of doing the same. Thanks, man! It’s ostensibly NTR and I think dudes that really get off to pain and despair can possibly enjoy some of the parts towards the end, but it didn’t do it for me.

When a relationship isn’t real or is only in the very early stages, I think there’s a fine balance that must be struck to make the NTR work. I feel Jinsei(probably a few others, but he comes immediately to mind) can actually do that scenario really well, but for others, and to me in this case, the premise just falls flat. They don’t spend enough time on the build up and the girl falls too soon for anything to have really mattered. Again, I love corruption! I live for corruption! I don’t even think this is that good of a corruption game, though. This is a fairly decent slut game, but some of the other aspects—because it’s trying to be an NTR and corruption game—actually make it kinda sad and depressing, so I’m not sure people that just want a hot, slutty gal can enjoy it all that much either...

While the story is cliche and dumb, I don’t mind cliche or repetition of generic NTR themes. I fucking love Sanbun Kyoden and he’s made of career of basically telling the same story with slightly different looking women for damn near two decades! But Sanbun makes steak and a good steak is still delicious no matter how many times you’ve had steak before! When care isn’t put into your ingredients, you get a mediocre result. You get this game.

I can’t say I feel cheated because of the price point. The character design, cgs, and voice acting are all decent. I’m just disappointed. I don’t feel like I overhyped this one for myself or had high expectations; it just didn’t even meet my hopeful optimism. Think of any generic ‘playboy convinced the good girl to be a slut’ trope and you’ll probably find it done middling to poor in this game. Obviously, game designers don’t cater to this Bastard, but I don’t feel it hit any of the points I generally expect from this kind of game. Let’s look at why, friends!

Spoiler: Three ways to make a dull game

1: Single play through progression

You see the whole story in one go. There is some perspective switching, but due to the way the perspectives jump back and forth there is zero mystery. There’s nothing to be imagined or worried over when you already know what the girl is doing. After the prologue, there’s not much to the profag’s short scenes between the heroine getting railed, so they’re just weak and dumb. Zero mystery makes a good game meh and a meh game straight up boring.

2. Corruption drops the ball

There are so many missed opportunities here. The NTR corruption is weak because the relationship is unrealized kid stuff and there’s no mystery. The transformation corruption where the girl changes her behavior is also weak. It’s just, ‘I don’t like this guy!’ ‘Wow, sex is amazing!’ ‘I like this guy now!’ There’s very little resistance. And you miss most of the good transformation bits. There’s no gradual change. The first bit just focuses on wearing down her resistance to the guy through sex. Then, the part would start where the girl starts to change and the profag notices, but this is just skipped entirely. There’s a short scene where the scumbag guy buys her flashier clothes, but you just see it after the fact where she’s saying she likes the clothes because he likes them. Then, there’s a small bit where she’s leaving her house and the mom shows some concern, but she blows her off and that’s the end of it. There's no good chance for reactions or surprise. Change her hair! Reaction! Change her make-up! Reaction! Stylish clothes! Reaction! Dark skin! Reaction! Slutty clothes! Reaction! THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING PIN-POINT!? So many missed opportunities! Then the game skips to after summer and she's completely different. It's a real shame. She has a sluttier school outfit, but all of the good clothes are just one offs in ero scenes, so they're a bit wasted as well. I know the time frame is different, but the the first Homestay game does a great job of gradual, subtle changes. The Yadokari game from Include does it better over a much shorter time, too. Also, I'm really disappointed in that the girl has a big physical change but her mental change is really weak. She just likes sex now to the exclusion of other stuff. If you're going to turn a girl into a slutty gyaru, make her talk like one! Kanade barely sounds any different outside of sex where she's just a turbo slut. Again, the Include game does that so much better!

3. The characters are uninteresting

The profag is lame and unlikable. He's deliberately an otaku and maybe the Japanese want that for self-insert reasons, but self-inserting in NTR games is bad and dumb and ruins chances to make a more interesting story. You guys are all cool, so I know you don't do that. Right? The heroine doesn't have very good characterization. She's a model student and gets good grades, but she's also somehow so naive that it makes her dumb as a fucking post. The entire blackmail results from the scumbag suddenly kissing her and taking a picture. Talk about the writer not giving a fuck. I'm willing to suspend disbelief for NTR tropes if the game is good, but if it's half-assed, it just makes the dumb bits stand out even more. Sometimes I'll root for the netori guy if he's interesting or funny. I even like complete monster scumbag dudes if they're done right, but the one in this is just a lame caricature. He's such an over-the-top douche that there's nothing funny or interesting or redeeming about him. It's fine for the scumbag to not care about the girl and just use her as a toy and then source of income, but he just seems so uninterested and smug the whole time that for me he just comes of a loser for it. Again, I think it's otaku reverse power-fantasy where they just want to hate the bad guy so much they made him Dick Dastardly from Wacky Races only a teenage boy in an eroge.

Spoiler: Wherein I use ridiculous hyperbole to make a point

Imaginary Forum Member: "Action Bastard, is it true that NTR games without mystery are invariably bad?"

AB: "Yes."

Imaginary Forum Member: "Come on! A game doesn't have to have mystery for it to be good!"

AB: "Yes it does. Fuck off."

Imaginary Forum Member: "But what about [insert NTR game here]!? That didn't have mystery and it was great!

AB: "Not it wasn't. It was bad and you should feel bad. An NTR game with zero mystery is like a rum and coke without a lime. The fuck is the point!?"

 

[Mr Abductor]

@Action Bastard

Nice review
You nailed down what i hated about it, was to exhausted to write a review up after slogging through the game.
I'll save my energy for Atelier Sakura's next gal wife game because I know they'll fuck it up somehow lol

 

[cleanfeel]

I've been collecting rare games for a long long time. My external has a TB of obscure Hgames- most of which are NTR. The obsession I have is probably less about the content and just because of the collection itself. Either way- my upload is trash so I can't really give you much but if you have a genre you particularly like I might be able to give you some recs or upload it if it's small(and if I have it.. which I probably do..) That one in particular you mentioned I don't have.. The artstyle reminds me of another dev that I really don't bother with.




Also currently uploading a small gift for the thread and i'll edit this post with the link if all goes well in just a little while.
The protag has a girl he likes- a sporty tomboyish athletic girl. The kind that works so well for NTR usually. He accidentally lets her name slip when talking to the class Bully who sits behind him. Throughout the month he keeps having delusions something may be wrong- like hearing her name in a conversation and kissing sounds- only to find out she and the bully were talking and the sound was just her chewing gum. But the fact they were talking at all really sets his nerve on edge... Is everything really fine?..

The plot progression is a series of ends. Each time you hit one- you restart the game to another route.
It's a simple ADV with choices. I couldn't find it on any torrent site and get no hits searching it on this site and no one has requested it- so I doubt many people have it. Anyway- I feel like it's page spoils much of the game so i'm going to let everyone who cares to dl it go in blind.

https://mega.nz/#!wd8iBaQD!Qdg50zo6BlNUQnmeFCpVIgYqlmSE63Z3GUBkERwLUMg >here it is- probably won't be up forever. Hopefully it uploaded fine.

How do you hook this game? Using NextHooker doesn't really do the job. Does anyone have an h-code? Or another software to hook it?

 

[Yosef30]

How do you hook this game? Using NextHooker doesn't really do the job. Does anyone have an h-code? Or another software to hook it?

Visual novel reader can find the right hook easily- At least it did for me. And it might not have sound but it does have animation- cum effects during CGs move and such. It's a surprisingly okay game for being made on a dime budget. There's a lot of cuckold humiliation as well- MC is a quickshot and can't even struggle against the bully.(and the bully is BAD... so maybe bully is the wrong term and just.. criminal?..) Won't spoil the endings though- whether there's room for revenge or not, guess that's something for people to find. Just don't expect much. Anyway- just found it as a small game and used it to test my upload. It failed at 100% the first time and took an hour the second time so I don't think I can upload anything much bigger.




Also Edit: Kanae by Dot kobo updated today with new scenes. I wonder if anyone who owns the game can get the new version? That'd be nice to see. I am a big fan of his style.

 

[Thereaper21]

Heya, brothers!

Ya’ll have been busy! Think I read like a six month backlog of posts a couple weeks ago. Hope everyone is doing well or at least staying alive.

I hope someone likes the new pin-point game cause despite looking forward to it, it definitely wasn’t for me. I love corruption and I love me some gyaru, but for me, I think this might be the most phoned in version of it ever. It has a good chance of going down as a prime example of how not to do an NTR game or a corruption game. At least until someone else fucks up bigger! :D

I know some people will really enjoy it, and it does alright for pure nukige scene material, but I can’t help but be a bit disappointed.

Spoiler: Old man yells at cloud

If you’ll allow me to indulge a bit of negativity , it really feels like the basic plot of a lot of Jinsei’s older stuff only done nowhere near as well. I don’t mind generic scenarios, but this one just felt supremely half-assed and there wasn’t enough to hold my interest between scenes. I even skimmed through a lot of those after I knew what I was getting.

I’ll fully admit to not being super tuned in and I very likely missed a couple good points, but after I stopped caring it was hard to waste hours I should have been sleeping reading a weak story. My boy Mr Abductor did a good job of summarizing the basic points and saved me the trouble of doing the same. Thanks, man! It’s ostensibly NTR and I think dudes that really get off to pain and despair can possibly enjoy some of the parts towards the end, but it didn’t do it for me.

When a relationship isn’t real or is only in the very early stages, I think there’s a fine balance that must be struck to make the NTR work. I feel Jinsei(probably a few others, but he comes immediately to mind) can actually do that scenario really well, but for others, and to me in this case, the premise just falls flat. They don’t spend enough time on the build up and the girl falls too soon for anything to have really mattered. Again, I love corruption! I live for corruption! I don’t even think this is that good of a corruption game, though. This is a fairly decent slut game, but some of the other aspects—because it’s trying to be an NTR and corruption game—actually make it kinda sad and depressing, so I’m not sure people that just want a hot, slutty gal can enjoy it all that much either...

While the story is cliche and dumb, I don’t mind cliche or repetition of generic NTR themes. I fucking love Sanbun Kyoden and he’s made of career of basically telling the same story with slightly different looking women for damn near two decades! But Sanbun makes steak and a good steak is still delicious no matter how many times you’ve had steak before! When care isn’t put into your ingredients, you get a mediocre result. You get this game.

I can’t say I feel cheated because of the price point. The character design, cgs, and voice acting are all decent. I’m just disappointed. I don’t feel like I overhyped this one for myself or had high expectations; it just didn’t even meet my hopeful optimism. Think of any generic ‘playboy convinced the good girl to be a slut’ trope and you’ll probably find it done middling to poor in this game. Obviously, game designers don’t cater to this Bastard, but I don’t feel it hit any of the points I generally expect from this kind of game. Let’s look at why, friends!

Spoiler: Three ways to make a dull game

1: Single play through progression

You see the whole story in one go. There is some perspective switching, but due to the way the perspectives jump back and forth there is zero mystery. There’s nothing to be imagined or worried over when you already know what the girl is doing. After the prologue, there’s not much to the profag’s short scenes between the heroine getting railed, so they’re just weak and dumb. Zero mystery makes a good game meh and a meh game straight up boring.

2. Corruption drops the ball

There are so many missed opportunities here. The NTR corruption is weak because the relationship is unrealized kid stuff and there’s no mystery. The transformation corruption where the girl changes her behavior is also weak. It’s just, ‘I don’t like this guy!’ ‘Wow, sex is amazing!’ ‘I like this guy now!’ There’s very little resistance. And you miss most of the good transformation bits. There’s no gradual change. The first bit just focuses on wearing down her resistance to the guy through sex. Then, the part would start where the girl starts to change and the profag notices, but this is just skipped entirely. There’s a short scene where the scumbag guy buys her flashier clothes, but you just see it after the fact where she’s saying she likes the clothes because he likes them. Then, there’s a small bit where she’s leaving her house and the mom shows some concern, but she blows her off and that’s the end of it. There's no good chance for reactions or surprise. Change her hair! Reaction! Change her make-up! Reaction! Stylish clothes! Reaction! Dark skin! Reaction! Slutty clothes! Reaction! THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING PIN-POINT!? So many missed opportunities! Then the game skips to after summer and she's completely different. It's a real shame. She has a sluttier school outfit, but all of the good clothes are just one offs in ero scenes, so they're a bit wasted as well. I know the time frame is different, but the the first Homestay game does a great job of gradual, subtle changes. The Yadokari game from Include does it better over a much shorter time, too. Also, I'm really disappointed in that the girl has a big physical change but her mental change is really weak. She just likes sex now to the exclusion of other stuff. If you're going to turn a girl into a slutty gyaru, make her talk like one! Kanade barely sounds any different outside of sex where she's just a turbo slut. Again, the Include game does that so much better!

3. The characters are uninteresting

The profag is lame and unlikable. He's deliberately an otaku and maybe the Japanese want that for self-insert reasons, but self-inserting in NTR games is bad and dumb and ruins chances to make a more interesting story. You guys are all cool, so I know you don't do that. Right? The heroine doesn't have very good characterization. She's a model student and gets good grades, but she's also somehow so naive that it makes her dumb as a fucking post. The entire blackmail results from the scumbag suddenly kissing her and taking a picture. Talk about the writer not giving a fuck. I'm willing to suspend disbelief for NTR tropes if the game is good, but if it's half-assed, it just makes the dumb bits stand out even more. Sometimes I'll root for the netori guy if he's interesting or funny. I even like complete monster scumbag dudes if they're done right, but the one in this is just a lame caricature. He's such an over-the-top douche that there's nothing funny or interesting or redeeming about him. It's fine for the scumbag to not care about the girl and just use her as a toy and then source of income, but he just seems so uninterested and smug the whole time that for me he just comes of a loser for it. Again, I think it's otaku reverse power-fantasy where they just want to hate the bad guy so much they made him Dick Dastardly from Wacky Races only a teenage boy in an eroge.

Spoiler: Wherein I use ridiculous hyperbole to make a point

Imaginary Forum Member: "Action Bastard, is it true that NTR games without mystery are invariably bad?"

AB: "Yes."

Imaginary Forum Member: "Come on! A game doesn't have to have mystery for it to be good!"

AB: "Yes it does. Fuck off."

Imaginary Forum Member: "But what about [insert NTR game here]!? That didn't have mystery and it was great!

AB: "Not it wasn't. It was bad and you should feel bad. An NTR game with zero mystery is like a rum and coke without a lime. The fuck is the point!?"

I am very impressed you finish the game this fast; seriously. I pretty much guess the writing is nothing to write home about but I not disappointed. I play their games for the hot scenes and how morally reprehensible their scenarios are. As long as I get both I am a happy camper. I am playing the latest waffle game for an ntr game with a great story so I am already getting that itched scratch.

Since we on this topic I do need help with the kirikiri engine though. It's not just the pinpoint games but other games with the same engine keep repeating words even when I put stop repeating in the VNR menu. Any assistance in that would be appreciated.

 

[Lianai]

For those who are looking for ママこんだん ～ママの秘密の懇談会～, I've bought it so here it is!

Have fun ;)

Next will be the new version of Sayoko when the dev will finish it.