Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

[cleanfeel]

Koibito wa Nido Netorareru
恋人は二度寝取られる
https://vndb.org/v28865

Do not waste your time or your money with this game

The male protagonist is a IMBECILE, he REFUSES to make sex with the girl because he thinks that sex hurts her feelings, because in the past she was forced by her step father to make sex, even she requesting sex with him every day he keep refusing make sex with her. Which woman should keep a relationship with a man that refuses to make sex ? Of course she end up seeking sex with others males.

I dropped to play this game after 3 hours, not finished, it, 3 hours of my life wasted in this shit ! I am so pissed off, I want to smash the face of the imbecile that created this game !

Is because of those shit games that I am no longer active in forums. Nowadays NTR became a main eroge genre, but, every years those NTR game are becoming worse and worse, the ntr games creators see ntr fans like a bunch of wimpy worthless man and all protagonist ion those game are wimpy coward worthless man.

I have the NTR fetish I should love see the woman that I love making sex with another man in the front of my eyes, but, I am not a wimpy coward worthless man, I just have a sexual fetish, this is not something that degrades me like a man or a human being, but, those male protagonist in the recent NTR games cannot even be called human beings, they are worthless maggots. The fucking guy in this game not have sufficient guts even to fuck his own lover !!! What in world someone should think in something like this ???

fhc, I think the more h-games you play, or erotic novels you read, the more garbage you'll find. Your taste gets more refined. When I first started out in playing with NTR, I just went along with the ride. But encountering well developed games /writings improves your perception on what defines a "good game". For you, and me, it is having believable plots and characters. NTR media is an escape for me from the mundane real life, but when it's too detract from reality, such as the above example with an MC that refuses to have sex with a girlfriend who asks, it no longer has the qualities of a believable story.

I personally believe one reason why some NTR games have bad quality is because the authors themselves do not have good real world experiences. In Japan, there are a lot of men and women who do not have any intimate contact with others. Such social isolation cannot breed strong and interesting plot in NTR. Hence why we get plots such as a) Girl tries big cock and falls instantly b) Girl fucks ugly man who stinks but is turned on and wants more c) Girl has sex with big dick, becomes corrupted, and no longer has a functioning brain d) Girl gets blackmailed by a man and instantly drops her panties without any sort of resistance e) Girl is getting fucked behind a curtain and somehow nobody notices it

All of these weak plot points is perpetuated by NEETs who write these games, Japan's culture of social withdrawn, as well as the typical lazy shit bag author with no self worth in his own creation.

I am more than happy to buy everyone here games, as in I'll buy it for you and you can share it with the forum. But it has to be good. I don't waste my money and time on trash.

 

[fhc]

fhc, I think the more h-games you play, or erotic novels you read, the more garbage you'll find. Your taste gets more refined. When I first started out in playing with NTR, I just went along with the ride. But encountering well developed games /writings improves your perception on what defines a "good game". For you, and me, it is having believable plots and characters. NTR media is an escape for me from the mundane real life, but when it's too detract from reality, such as the above example with an MC that refuses to have sex with a girlfriend who asks, it no longer has the qualities of a believable story.

I personally believe one reason why some NTR games have bad quality is because the authors themselves do not have good real world experiences. In Japan, there are a lot of men and women who do not have any intimate contact with others. Such social isolation cannot breed strong and interesting plot in NTR. Hence why we get plots such as a) Girl tries big cock and falls instantly b) Girl fucks ugly man who stinks but is turned on and wants more c) Girl has sex with big dick, becomes corrupted, and no longer has a functioning brain d) Girl gets blackmailed by a man and instantly drops her panties without any sort of resistance e) Girl is getting fucked behind a curtain and somehow nobody notices it

All of these weak plot points is perpetuated by NEETs who write these games, Japan's culture of social withdrawn, as well as the typical lazy shit bag author with no self worth in his own creation.

I am more than happy to buy everyone here games, as in I'll buy it for you and you can share it with the forum. But it has to be good. I don't waste my money and time on trash.

Play this game, this is good:
親友（あいつ）に抱かれる俺の妻
Aitsu ni Dakareru Ore no Tsuma
http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=1030652
https://vndb.org/v24696

I really liked this game a lot, highly recommended

Can you recommend to anything good ? A game with a male protagonist with a wife. Wife NTR is the best. I think girlfriend NTR or childhood friend NTR is not so good, wife is ALWAYS better, a true cuckold feeling. Also NTR games with a female protagonist is ridiculous, this is not good. I cannot understand how a game with a female protagonist can be considered NTR, but, exist a LOT of games tagged with NTR and have a female protagonist nowadays...

EDIT>
I forget, also I think that I good NTR game is always from the point of view of the male protagonist. Exist a lot of game with a male protagonist but 95% of the game is all from the point of view of the wife, this is so disappointing.

 

[zestywasabi]

Finished up another game RJ297258. Overall, pretty good in my opinion. The MC was a pretty cool guy so I do feel a little bad for him but it seemed like he had a good thing going in the end despite all that happened. Next up probably gonna play some stuff from my Kaguragames backlog but I also have NTRハウス (RJ257752) and Hな酒場へようこそ (RJ287865) I want to get through. And of course there's kuripick.

A few more curtain/obscured lewd (Well, I guess the third one is kinda cheating but whatever):


Taken from:
サイミンアプリ－悪夢の寝取られゲーム－ (Not normally into hypnosis/mind control but I enjoyed this a lot)
魔法少女はキスして変身る ～相手が彼以外の人だなんて……～
牝アイドル ～デビューした彼女が、男たちに密着マークされている件～

 

[fhc]

Finished up another game RJ297258. Overall, pretty good in my opinion. The MC was a pretty cool guy so I do feel a little bad for him but it seemed like he had a good thing going in the end despite all that happened. Next up probably gonna play some stuff from my Kaguragames backlog but I also have NTRハウス (RJ257752) and Hな酒場へようこそ (RJ287865) I want to get through. And of course there's kuripick.

A few more curtain/obscured lewd (Well, I guess the third one is kinda cheating but whatever):
View attachment 25977 View attachment 25978 View attachment 25979

Taken from:
サイミンアプリ－悪夢の寝取られゲーム－ (Not normally into hypnosis/mind control but I enjoyed this a lot)
魔法少女はキスして変身る ～相手が彼以外の人だなんて……～
牝アイドル ～デビューした彼女が、男たちに密着マークされている件～

DO you reccomend all those games ? I love NTR but I hate bad end. You know, a bad end is when the girl abandon the protagonist and the protagonist end the game alone. A happy end in when the girl keep forever her love relationship with the protagonist even If at same time making sex with other guy.

I know about サイミンアプリ－悪夢の寝取られゲーム－ and 牝アイドル ～デビューした彼女が、男たちに密着マークされている件～ but I guess bith games have a BAD END.

About 魔法少女はキスして変身る ～相手が彼以外の人だなんて……～ not played it yet

About the 3 Doujin games not played yet, I will try it then. Thank you very much. I am downloading the 3 doijins high now.

 

[zestywasabi]

DO you reccomend all those games ? I love NTR but I hate bad end. You know, a bad end is when the girl abandon the protagonist and the protagonist end the game alone. A happy end in when the girl keep forever her love relationship with the protagonist even If at same time making sex with other guy.

I know about サイミンアプリ－悪夢の寝取られゲーム－ and 牝アイドル ～デビューした彼女が、男たちに密着マークされている件～ but I guess bith games have a BAD END.

About 魔法少女はキスして変身る ～相手が彼以外の人だなんて……～ not played it yet

About the 3 Doujin games not played yet, I will try it then. Thank you very much. Is safe to play those games ? no bad end ? I dislike to play douijih games because is hard to find walkthroughs for doujin games.

I can't recommend NTRハウス (RJ257752), Hな酒場へようこそ (RJ287865), and 牝アイドル ～デビューした彼女が、男たちに密着マークされている件～ because I haven't played them yet. I can't even get 牝アイドル to work on Windows 10! Frill releases a patch for Holy x Moly but wont touch Mesu Idol... orz

RJ297258 is a bittersweet ending kinda left to the player's interpretation on what happens after a certain meetup. 魔法少女はキスして変身る was great! It has quite a few bad endings but it also has another happyish/bittersweet ending iirc. If you want 100% happy endings you might want to search the "Avoidable Netorare" tag on vndb. That way you can jack it to some NTR and then aim for a good ending when you're done. Alicesoft and Lilim come to mind for eroge developers that have titles with NTR and happy endings.

 

[fhc]

I can't recommend NTRハウス (RJ257752), Hな酒場へようこそ (RJ287865), and 牝アイドル ～デビューした彼女が、男たちに密着マークされている件～ because I haven't played them yet. I can't even get 牝アイドル to work on Windows 10! Frill releases a patch for Holy x Moly but wont touch Mesu Idol... orz

RJ297258 is a bittersweet ending kinda left to the player's interpretation on what happens after a certain meetup. 魔法少女はキスして変身る was great! It has quite a few bad endings but it also has another happyish/bittersweet ending iirc. If you want 100% happy endings you might want to search the "Avoidable Netorare" tag on vndb. That way you can jack it to some NTR and then aim for a good ending when you're done. Alicesoft and Lilim come to mind for eroge developers that have titles with NTR and happy endings.

Thank you very much, zestywasabi. But I am still searching non stop for games with NTR but with a real happy end even after the NTR happened. Avoidable NTR is not fun. Also Hypnosis NTR is not fun too. I just played 巨乳人妻寝取られ催眠 ～シェアハウスで管理人と妻が…… ～ recently and dropped it. The wife not even remember what happened and the husband not even know anything. This is not ntr.

 

[Animefan_09]

Saw this on sadpanda https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ311259.html and from what i get wioth google it looks interesting, may be another good newbie game, anyone tried it? Share?

 

[NTRWolf]

Saw this on sadpanda https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ311259.html and from what i get wioth google it looks interesting, may be another good newbie game, anyone tried it? Share?

It seems the game uses DRM so even if someone shares it, a crack is also needed.

I'm interested in this game but I'd like to know how is the male POV before buyint it.

 

[Redorc]

I forget, also I think that I good NTR game is always from the point of view of the male protagonist. Exist a lot of game with a male protagonist but 95% of the game is all from the point of view of the wife, this is so disappointing.

I feel the same, ntr with the woman pov feels more like corruption.

Saw this on sadpanda https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ311259.html and from what i get wioth google it looks interesting, may be another good newbie game, anyone tried it? Share?

Ah shit, I would have bought it if it didn't have the drm.

 

[caminante654]

Personally I like the NTR Type B-2, any that you recommend?

 

[PotatoGod]

It seems the game uses DRM so even if someone shares it, a crack is also needed.

I'm interested in this game but I'd like to know how is the male POV before buyint it.

That's a shame, I wanted to give the game a try but DRM is a real turn off.

 

[Animefan_09]

That's a shame, I wanted to give the game a try but DRM is a real turn off.

Pity, well maybe 1 of the main people will share it and someone will crack it? I know recently there was 1 ntr rpg game like that, i had to downlaod it twice because of the DRM =S

 

[Shadovv]

I can't recommend NTRハウス (RJ257752), Hな酒場へようこそ (RJ287865), and 牝アイドル ～デビューした彼女が、男たちに密着マークされている件～ because I haven't played them yet. I can't even get 牝アイドル to work on Windows 10! Frill releases a patch for Holy x Moly but wont touch Mesu Idol... orz

RJ297258 is a bittersweet ending kinda left to the player's interpretation on what happens after a certain meetup. 魔法少女はキスして変身る was great! It has quite a few bad endings but it also has another happyish/bittersweet ending iirc. If you want 100% happy endings you might want to search the "Avoidable Netorare" tag on vndb. That way you can jack it to some NTR and then aim for a good ending when you're done. Alicesoft and Lilim come to mind for eroge developers that have titles with NTR and happy endings.

I played Alicesoft games. All of them probably.
Lilim are VNs, not the games.
Aside of both studios mentioned, any recommendation for girl banging with others AND then staying with MC?
Anything in English?

 

[zestywasabi]

I played Alicesoft games. All of them probably.
Lilim are VNs, not the games.
Aside of both studios mentioned, any recommendation for girl banging with others AND then staying with MC?
Anything in English?

I haven't played much English of anything in a while. There's a few translated Acerola games that might have the ending you're looking for but it has been a long time since I've played any of them so please excuse my terrible memory. Not in English and not a game if we're separating VNs from gameplay would be the Djibril series. I've played 1-4 and it's possible to have NTR scenes AND a good end where the girls stay with the MC. Sengoku Djibril, which I've only played a bit from, I assume probably follows the same pattern.

 

[fhc]

Please Suggest to me a really good NTR game to play

Sorry terrible bad english

Warning, trivial and infuriated fhc rants, read it for your on descricion

Pal, I love NTR, I can fap only seeing a NTR scene. specially a wife NTR scene. For some unknown reason any other kind of sex scene not excite me, I cannot fap.

I am in vacation now and I will restart to work day 4, I am spend all my vacation time playing NTR games, I played several games, a lot really, played one or two hours of each game searching something to make me excited to make a refreshing masturbation.

Some NTR games that I played on those days the husband (protagonist) request to other man to fuck his wife and then he just be in another room while the other man is fucking his wife. you will be only able to see this sex scene from the point of view the wife at the end of the game. I played 3 games like this, I just dropped then without finish.

Some NTR games a husband (protagonist) request for his wife to make sex with a man. in the game, he just be at home while his wife is in a Motel with the lover. In some games the wife arrive at home and then she report the NTR scene for the husband in other games she record only her voice making sex with the lover.

In other game, is even worse, the protagonist (The Husband) request to his wife to be living with her lover a WHOLE WEEK while the husband ( the protagonist) be alone at house a whole week in despair imagining what his wife is doing. The others games I not remember the name, but this last one I will never forget, since is the most ridiculous: 僕に抱かれ喘ぐ妻は、他の男に抱かれた話を紡ぐ

In some games the few NTR scene that happening from the point of view of the protagonist, like he is hearing from the wall a NTR scene happening in the next door or room, the sex scene is blurred in the screen and the protagonist can only hear the voice of his wife. This happened in more than 5 games from アトリエさくら game maker, I not now even feel like to play games from アトリエさくら anymore.

In others games is worse, 95% of the game is from the point of view of the wife and she interacts more with her lover than with her husband, the "protagonist" of the game. This cannot even be considered NTR since the true protagonist are the wife and her lover, the husband is just a side character that be the whole game without even knowing that his wife is cheating.

The unique game that I really liked is 親友に抱かれる俺の妻 , 優来があいつに抱かれる理由 and 人妻セックス from アトリエさくら so far, those 3 games are truly masterpiece, I cannot understand why the others games are so bad.

I cannot understand what is wrong in the head of the guys that are creating NTR games nowadays. You are a Husband, you have a cuckold fetish, is not the correct thing for you to request your wife to make sex with another man in the front of your eyes ? is not normal If you are a cuckold fetishist to be present in the same room while your wife is making sex with another man ? just search for cuckold amateur videos on PornHub, all those cuckold videos are the husband filming his wife making sex with other man, then,

WHY SO MANY GAMES THE PROTAGONIST REQUEST TO HIS WIFE TO MAKES SEX WITH OTHER MAN AND THEN THE PROTAGONIST JUST LEAVES HIS WIFE AND HER LOVER ALONE AND JUST BE WAITING OUTSIDE, IN ANOTHER ROOM ??????

I PLAYED 10 NTR GAMES IN A ROW WITH THIS KIND OF TEMPLATE !!!!!!

Please, save my vacation, I need to masturbate a lot in those last days of my vacation for me to return to work refleshed in day 4 without any stress. Suggest to me a really GOOD ntr game that the NTR scenes happens from the point of view of the protagonist, but the sex really happens in the front of this eyes, not just a sound or a blurred image, not a talked report or a video recorded in a DVD, I want a true NTR scene in the front of the protagonist. A REAL NTR GAME !

 

[fhc]

some people thinks tat I like netorase more than NTR.

A lot of those netorase games, specially the ones made by Atelier Sakura, happens exactly what I hate the most> the protagonist invite other man to fuck his wife and then he leave the room and his wife and the other man making sex alone in the room with all privacy while the idiotic protagonist is alone in another room in agony... and the at the end of the game we see the same sex scene from the point of view of the heroine... I hate both things, the protagonist avoiding see his wife making sex with other man and also a NTR scene that happens only from the point of view of the heroine, this is a template used in almost all netorase games from Atelier Sakura. I cannot understand how the games from Atelier Sakura have so much sales since they always do the same thing in all games, with few exceptions. and it is exactly those few exceptions that I wanted to find, I really love the 3 exceptions from Atelier Sakura that I find so far: 親友に抱かれる俺の妻 , 優来があいつに抱かれる理由 and 人妻セックス

優来があいつに抱かれる理由 and 人妻セックス that are the games that I like the most for sure are NOT netorase. that MYSTERY, the agony of not know what you will find at reach home and open the door of your own bedroom in NTR games are fascinating.

and 親友に抱かれる俺の妻 is for sure netorase, is beautiful see another man groping the nude breast of your own wife in the front of your eyes, I admit, I fapped more in the scene of the other guy groping the breasts of the wife in the front of the protagonist more than even in the sex scenes.

 

[TheWanderer]

Hey friends, does anyone have the latest version of either of these games? I seem to be only able to find the initial releases.

https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ284911.html
https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ175655.html

 

[saltwaterfist]

Holy shit! Is this real fhc from hongfire???? You are a NTR legend, I remember you from hongfire days!!! Welcome back if you are the real one.

 

[fhc]

What makes me sad in the modern NTR games are the fact that all NTR games have a break up end where the girl abandon the protagonist and go away with her lover.

Is like the NTR game makers thinks that NTR fans are masochists that like to suffer and have their hearts broken.

NTR is "cuckold" in japanese, is simple the fetish to see your lover making sex with other man. It is not "lose the woman" or "end alone in agony" I hate games that the girl break up the relationship with the protagonist.

A happy end in NTR game is a girl keep forever a love relationship with the protagonist and at same time she keep making sex with other man. I love it. Too abd is very rare a NTR game with this kind of end. all og them always have the break up relationship end.

My dream in real life is to marry a prostitute and my wife the prostitute support with her money and also making sex with her clients in the front of my eyes.

Serious. I even tried it in real life. I tried a love relationship with 3 different prostitutes, but, I failed and I gave up. Prostitutes in real world see love in a different way. I guess is impossible to marry a prostitute and keep a love relationship with them, the 3 prostitutes that I tried it makes it clear to me. Then I gave up. To have a love NTR relationship is possible only in games, not in real life.

Note: I lost my virginity with a prostitute.a lovely Wife Prostitute is the supreme NTR. Too bad it is impossible in real life and too bad I cannot even find games like this too.

 

[woomba]

NTR is "cuckold" in Japanese, is simple the fetish to see your lover making sex with other man. It is not "lose the woman" or "end alone in agony" I hate games that the girl break up the relationship with the protagonist.

This is where you're incorrect and why I think you're so frustrated. Netorare does not directly translate to cuckold, although with these things it's all in the nuance. Netori (which is the root word) comes from the idea from 'stealing (a spouse)' or 'getting someone to switching sides' (if used in a non-sexual context). It's historically more associated with cheating than any specific fetish.

Netorare is the receiving form - "having your loved one stolen from you"
Netorase is the active receiving form - "making your loved one stolen from you"

The thing that you're frustrated about is part of the very definition of the word - in order for someone to be "stolen", there needs to be a form of permanence to it that goes beyond a wild night of sex. Netorase is the closest thing to what you're looking for, but if you look at the definition you'll notice that it's still not quite a 100% match.

 

[fhc]

This is where you're incorrect and why I think you're so frustrated. Netorare does not directly translate to cuckold, although with these things it's all in the nuance. Netori (which is the root word) comes from the idea from 'stealing (a spouse)' or 'getting someone to switching sides' (if used in a non-sexual context). It's historically more associated with cheating than any specific fetish.

Netorare is the receiving form - "having your loved one stolen from you"
Netorase is the active receiving form - "making your loved one stolen from you"

The thing that you're frustrated about is part of the very definition of the word - in order for someone to be "stolen", there needs to be a form of permanence to it that goes beyond a wild night of sex. Netorase is the closest thing to what you're looking for, but if you look at the definition you'll notice that it's still not quite a 100% match.

Also I already talked with japanese people , 寝取られ (NETORARE) or simple NTR is in the meaning of THE BODY OF YOUR LOVER IS STOLEN BY ANOTHER GUY, but is not in any ways means that her heart is stolen, is not that her love is stolen. Just go around in japanese NTR forums and blogs, in all NTR games the guys away ask If the game have or not a happy end, and the happy end is always the protagonist keep the love relationship with the girl besides the NTR act. a BAD end is when the girl abandon the protagonist.

You are so much centered in the grammatical sense of the word. It doesn't matter if it is NTR or NETORASE, both kind of games end in the vast majority of times with the end of the protagonist's relationship with his girl, and the protagonist ends up alone in agony.

I don't care if it's NTR or NETORASE, I want to see the girl I love having sex with another man and even so I want the girl to end the game together with the protagonist, always loving the protagonist.

So many English fans of NTR misunderstood it, they think that the bad end is when the girl makes sex with other man and the happy end is when the NTR is avoided. THIS IS WRONG !!

A happy end in NTR game is when the girl makes sex with other man but she keep loving the protagonist and end the game together with the protagonist loving the protagonist.



etymology, study of the origin of words. 寝取られ really in the beginning was the meaning of to have your lover stolen. During the several years the meaning of the word changed to specifically a genre of erotic literature. In japanese market not exist teh tag fort erotic literature NETORASE, only exist NETORARE or simply NTR. You will never find a shop with the tag NETORASE in their products, only exist the tag NETORARE that is "cuckolding" in english, even in dictionaries you find it like this.

You get it ? Does not matter the meaning the work NETORARE in old times, nowadays it is a tag used to identify a kind of erotic literature that have not any other meaning than the English word "cuckolding" in english>

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/寝取られ

寝取られとは、国語辞典的な定義では動詞「寝取る」の受動形の名詞化された単語。性用語としては基本的に、自分の好きな人が他の者と性的関係になる状況に性的興奮を覚える嗜好の人に向けたフィクションなどの創造物のジャンル名を指す。NTRとも表記される[1]。

I know what I am saying, I am long 20 years browsing japanese NTR forums and Blogs.

 

[woomba]

I think we're agreeing with the Japanese definition of the word. All I'm saying is that none of that exactly matches the western Cuckolding fetish where the guy is often involved in looking for bulls, etc. that you seem to be into. You're frustrated about NTR games not meeting your specific fetish when that's not the norm for NTR in the first place - that's just a sub-part of Netorase/Swapping type in Japan.

This is a frequent discussion point in Japanese NTR blogs/BBSes as well on what counts as true Netorare so probably not the first time you're seeing this.

 

[fhc]

I am getting a NTR dialog with friends and I will just copy and paste here my experiences in the NTR dialog, you not need to read it If you not want.

I am talking about my real life experience with prostitutes in the real world.

I have a bad english, I hope you can understand.

Prostitutes not believe in man. the prostitutes are always thinking that all man just want to take advantage of them. they believe that all man that seek romance with them just want a excuse for free sex. Prostitutes only want a real relationship with a rich man that support them and then they can leave the prostitute life and live comfortable. is IMPOSSIBLE a prostitute to marry a man and then keep working like a prostitute, they are all the time looking for a rich man that can give to then a easy and comfortable life.

I do believe that is IMPOSSIBLE to a prostitute true loves a man, prostitutes only can love the money. They only seeks money in a man. Is impossible to a prostitute trust a man, a prostitute should fell comfortable in a relationship with the idea of her is using the man, but, she never ever will really open her heart to a man and trust him.

Prostitutes cannot trust man, cannot trust even man from their family. 100% of all prostitutes that I meet always are abused in her family as a child, by the father, by step father, or even by own mother that forced then in prostitution as a child.

Maybe it varies between countries, for instance, in Japan or in USA sometimes a adult woman that was always love by her father as a child be herself forced to prostitution when she became adult, but, in Brazil it is impossible: In Brazil no one is forced to pay debts like in Japan and USA, then no woman can be forced in prostitution. In Brazil ALL prostitutes start in prostitution in the childhood forced by family and then they grow as prostitutes and can only live as prostitutes. In Brazil is easy to buy a prostitute child of 10 years old, it exist in everywhere, no one cares, SJW only talk about it on internet but they avoid to look at real people doing it in real life. Even here I live exist child prostitution, but, everybody just makes believe that it not exist, just ignore.

Then, of course, a prostitute that is abused since 10 years old cannot trust or love a man, and they live the whole life trying to go out of the live of prostitution, and the unique way that they think that exist to escape of the life the prostitution is to marry a very rich man, preferable a foreigner. Is the dream of absolute all prostitute: to marry a rich a foreign man.

Then in Brazil is impossible a prostitute marry a man and keep being a prostitute.

Something interesting about prostitutes are that they refuses to work, to get a stable job. In Brazil a stable work pay is R$ 1040,00 per month ( I work and I get R$ 1040,00 per month, I live like this) But a prostitute that work in Copacabana street can get R$ 1000,00 in one night.

Then you can understand: Only a rich man can earn more in a day than a prostitute. Then, of course, a prostitute NEVER will, marry a man that earn less than her.

Only ugly and sick prostitutes live in poverty, but, who wants to marry a ugly and sick prostitute ?

But, I guess, even a ugly and sick prostitute can earn more than R$ 1040,00 per month.

Then, fhc ( I myself) earning R$ 1040,00 per month is impossible to even marry a ugly and sick prostitute !!!

But I wanted a beautiful prostitute. the 3 girls that I tries are beautiful. really, If is to marry a ugly woman, I prefer to live alone forever. I am a ugly 43 years old lonely man that earn just R$ 1040,00 per month then just leave me with my 2D waifu girls in eroge games for the rest of my life.

My penis not enter a vagina long 15 or maybe 20 years , I admit that I not remember well last time that I make sex, but, I am ok. I honestly don't miss it. Who have eroge not need real woman.

Also all woman that I make sex always makes fun of me that I not did it right !

 

[cleanfeel]

I am getting a NTR dialog with friends and I will just copy and paste here my experiences in the NTR dialog, you not need to read it If you not want.

I am talking about my real life experience with prostitutes in the real world.

I have a bad english, I hope you can understand.

Prostitutes not believe in man. the prostitutes are always thinking that all man just want to take advantage of them. they believe that all man that seek romance with them just want a excuse for free sex. Prostitutes only want a real relationship with a rich man that support them and then they can leave the prostitute life and live comfortable. is IMPOSSIBLE a prostitute to marry a man and then keep working like a prostitute, they are all the time looking for a rich man that can give to then a easy and comfortable life.

I do believe that is IMPOSSIBLE to a prostitute true loves a man, prostitutes only can love the money. They only seeks money in a man. Is impossible to a prostitute trust a man, a prostitute should fell comfortable in a relationship with the idea of her is using the man, but, she never ever will really open her heart to a man and trust him.

Prostitutes cannot trust man, cannot trust even man from their family. 100% of all prostitutes that I meet always are abused in her family as a child, by the father, by step father, or even by own mother that forced then in prostitution as a child.

Maybe it varies between countries, for instance, in Japan or in USA sometimes a adult woman that was always love by her father as a child be herself forced to prostitution when she became adult, but, in Brazil it is impossible: In Brazil no one is forced to pay debts like in Japan and USA, then no woman can be forced in prostitution. In Brazil ALL prostitutes start in prostitution in the childhood forced by family and then they grow as prostitutes and can only live as prostitutes. In Brazil is easy to buy a prostitute child of 10 years old, it exist in everywhere, no one cares, SJW only talk about it on internet but they avoid to look at real people doing it in real life. Even here I live exist child prostitution, but, everybody just makes believe that it not exist, just ignore.

Then, of course, a prostitute that is abused since 10 years old cannot trust or love a man, and they live the whole life trying to go out of the live of prostitution, and the unique way that they think that exist to escape of the life the prostitution is to marry a very rich man, preferable a foreigner. Is the dream of absolute all prostitute: to marry a rich a foreign man.

Then in Brazil is impossible a prostitute marry a man and keep being a prostitute.

Something interesting about prostitutes are that they refuses to work, to get a stable job. In Brazil a stable work pay is R$ 1040,00 per month ( I work and I get R$ 1040,00 per month, I live like this) But a prostitute that work in Copacabana street can get R$ 1000,00 in one night.

Then you can understand: Only a rich man can earn more in a day than a prostitute. Then, of course, a prostitute NEVER will, marry a man that earn less than her.

Only ugly and sick prostitutes live in poverty, but, who wants to marry a ugly and sick prostitute ?

But, I guess, even a ugly and sick prostitute can earn more than R$ 1040,00 per month.

Then, fhc ( I myself) earning R$ 1040,00 per month is impossible to even marry a ugly and sick prostitute !!!

But I wanted a beautiful prostitute. the 3 girls that I tries are beautiful. really, If is to marry a ugly woman, I prefer to live alone forever. I am a ugly 43 years old lonely man that earn just R$ 1040,00 per month then just leave me with my 2D waifu girls in eroge games for the rest of my life.

My penis not enter a vagina long 15 or maybe 20 years , I admit that I not remember well last time that I make sex, but, I am ok. I honestly don't miss it. Who have eroge not need real woman.

Also all woman that I make sex always makes fun of me that I not did it right !

Interesting. I'm honestly quite different from you, if you're interested in hearing about me. I'm pretty decent looking in RL, I have a very high paying job in tech, half your age. I don't remember when I started like NTR, but I like NTR games for the idea of corrupting beautiful and strong willed women. I think I'm more of corruption than NTR, but I find NTR games having corruption elements that makes it entertaining.

I love the idea of having the perfect women, physically, intellectually, and spiritually slowly degrading. I love the idea of a villain showing her what is wrong with her beliefs. For example, I love the idea of a feminist that is proud of being a woman, fighting for rights, successful. And having her come to the realization that women is inherently inferior to men physically (and maybe intellectually too, but the villain has to trick her since I actually don't believe women are dumber than men in RL). Games that have these female warriors that protects the weak, and is a "woman in a man's world" get her ass handed to her and humiliated by a stronger male villain who teases her and insults her pride is my shit.

The NTR aspect of that particular troupe is secondary but makes the story better. For example, a childhood friendship story where the woman and her love competes together, with the woman winning over and gaining confidence, builds character. And then having that taken away by a taller, stronger, smarter man feels really nice. In my view, the cuck in this type of story serves as a weakness for the female for her corruption to take place.

That's my ideal NTR, rather than the dude having agency over his own fetish. Type-C all the way for me.

 

[PotatoGod]

Please Suggest to me a really good NTR game to play

Sorry terrible bad english

Warning, trivial and infuriated fhc rants, read it for your on descricion

Pal, I love NTR, I can fap only seeing a NTR scene. specially a wife NTR scene. For some unknown reason any other kind of sex scene not excite me, I cannot fap.

I am in vacation now and I will restart to work day 4, I am spend all my vacation time playing NTR games, I played several games, a lot really, played one or two hours of each game searching something to make me excited to make a refreshing masturbation.

Some NTR games that I played on those days the husband (protagonist) request to other man to fuck his wife and then he just be in another room while the other man is fucking his wife. you will be only able to see this sex scene from the point of view the wife at the end of the game. I played 3 games like this, I just dropped then without finish.

Some NTR games a husband (protagonist) request for his wife to make sex with a man. in the game, he just be at home while his wife is in a Motel with the lover. In some games the wife arrive at home and then she report the NTR scene for the husband in other games she record only her voice making sex with the lover.

In other game, is even worse, the protagonist (The Husband) request to his wife to be living with her lover a WHOLE WEEK while the husband ( the protagonist) be alone at house a whole week in despair imagining what his wife is doing. The others games I not remember the name, but this last one I will never forget, since is the most ridiculous: 僕に抱かれ喘ぐ妻は、他の男に抱かれた話を紡ぐ

In some games the few NTR scene that happening from the point of view of the protagonist, like he is hearing from the wall a NTR scene happening in the next door or room, the sex scene is blurred in the screen and the protagonist can only hear the voice of his wife. This happened in more than 5 games from アトリエさくら game maker, I not now even feel like to play games from アトリエさくら anymore.

In others games is worse, 95% of the game is from the point of view of the wife and she interacts more with her lover than with her husband, the "protagonist" of the game. This cannot even be considered NTR since the true protagonist are the wife and her lover, the husband is just a side character that be the whole game without even knowing that his wife is cheating.

The unique game that I really liked is 親友に抱かれる俺の妻 , 優来があいつに抱かれる理由 and 人妻セックス from アトリエさくら so far, those 3 games are truly masterpiece, I cannot understand why the others games are so bad.

I cannot understand what is wrong in the head of the guys that are creating NTR games nowadays. You are a Husband, you have a cuckold fetish, is not the correct thing for you to request your wife to make sex with another man in the front of your eyes ? is not normal If you are a cuckold fetishist to be present in the same room while your wife is making sex with another man ? just search for cuckold amateur videos on PornHub, all those cuckold videos are the husband filming his wife making sex with other man, then,

WHY SO MANY GAMES THE PROTAGONIST REQUEST TO HIS WIFE TO MAKES SEX WITH OTHER MAN AND THEN THE PROTAGONIST JUST LEAVES HIS WIFE AND HER LOVER ALONE AND JUST BE WAITING OUTSIDE, IN ANOTHER ROOM ??????

I PLAYED 10 NTR GAMES IN A ROW WITH THIS KIND OF TEMPLATE !!!!!!

Please, save my vacation, I need to masturbate a lot in those last days of my vacation for me to return to work refleshed in day 4 without any stress. Suggest to me a really GOOD ntr game that the NTR scenes happens from the point of view of the protagonist, but the sex really happens in the front of this eyes, not just a sound or a blurred image, not a talked report or a video recorded in a DVD, I want a true NTR scene in the front of the protagonist. A REAL NTR GAME !

Since people seem to be adding their two cents on your passion for NTR I've decided to add my own opinions.
My favorite kind of NTR is netorase. I kind of get where you're coming from but there are other areas where I differ from you. Usually, when a NTR game has the heroine's POV only I don't even give it a try. In NTR games where you play as the guy first and once you beat the game you get to see the heroine's POV of what actually happened, I usually just stop at the male's POV. What I personally like in netorase might actually be the opposite of you, or actually kind of similar, its hard to tell. My favorite kind of netorase ending is one where the MC and heroine are still together while said heroine bangs another guy with everyone being fine with the situation. In this kind of ending the heroine still loves the MC however since he can't satisfy her she rarely, if ever, has sex with him and goes solely to the other guy. The MC will of course enjoy this since its his fetish and the heroine gets to maintain her relationship while also getting banged by another guy who's better at sex. Where I differ from you as that I actually like some of those scenes you think are stupid (which they kind of are). Scenes where the MC doesn't get to see the heroine having sex and has to go with his imagination and the heroine's word of what happened, the latter which is sometimes quite deceiving. I guess a good way of putting it is that while I do like when the girl I love has sex with another guy, what I really like is when the girl I love may or may not be stolen because the other guy is way better at sex. I like the mystery of the heroine having sex while you're only able to guess what's going on and have to trust her report. Stuff like, 'did she really only bang him twice?', 'was the other guy way better at sex?' and 'is she lying about not having raw sex?'. Even better when she goes behind the MC's back to bang the other guy after she agrees to meet up with him for another round, maybe even record it to show it to the MC later so that he'll be wondering what she'll do behind his back next. In that sense, I like it when the heroine has some urgency. She sees that the MC gets off on NTR so she goes out of her way to sleep with someone else behind his back to further appease the MC's fetish. As I said before, I usually like it when the game ends with the MC and the heroine still being together while said heroine gets banged by another guy. To expand on that, I like it when its not clear who she truly favors in the end. Does she love the MC more despite the fact that he can't please her anymore or does she actually love having sex with the other guy more than her relationship with the MC and simply stays with the MC because that's the MC's fetish which means she can get the best of both worlds. The ending of https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ299836.html is a good example of what I mean. For most of the game, the MC has been unaware of his gf's cheating but she eventually comes clean and promises to not do it again. The MC forgives her and in the immediate next sex scene when he's banging her, she notices that the MC gets more aroused when she brings up her cheating. She offers to cheat again since the MC seems to have discovered his NTR fetish but is still uncertain. In this case, she leads him into agreeing and goes to have sex with her cheating partner again. The game ends with the MC still having a sexual relationship with his gf, though certain things like raw sex she will only do with her cheating partner, and both of them still love each other though the situation is still uncertain. Now the gf is wearing slutty tattoos because of the cheating dude's preferences and is pretty much his borderline sex slave and whenever the MC watches her videos, its pretty clear that she's like a different person when she's banging the other guy. At the very end its revealed that she got knocked up by the cheating guy and that she'll raise it with the MC. The game ends at a pretty good point that leaves a lot of questions. Does the MC feel like this is going too far? Is his gf getting knocked up even more arousing to him? Does the gf love being the other guy's slave more than her relationship with the MC? If the other guy told her to leave the MC would she go through with it or would she stay? Stuff like that is the reason I like netorase. Situations where the heroine stays days at the other guys house and stays past the agreed time limit because she forgot due to the sex being good is my cup of tea because the MC's usually wondering if she's been stolen by that point.
It might be different for everyone but its pretty fascinating to see that there are many things that draw people to NTR. Not sure if I worded this stuff properly but that's just my take on the fetish. I still love other types of netorare, some more than others, and I'm pretty glad for this thread's existence since there's not many places I can talk like this about NTR.