Would you go to mars if you could never go back?

[BlackbirdSWE]

How are you supposed to breath over there?
Well, I wouldn't leave earth but if there is spaceships and places you can live there in Mars I may travel there.

 

[xXPsychoKittyDXx]

hmm... i'd say probably the only way i'd agree to go to live on mars and never come back is if all my family and friends were dead and there was already some type of advanced or modernized civilization up there (preferably humanoid at least in part) with plenty of stuff to do and places to go

but i'd rather be able to travel around to multiple planets and galaxies and dimensions etc as i please~

 

[nanashi1]

But there gives a important question to answer: Under which government should it controled in Mars; out of the Big8: USA, Japan, Germany, Russia, France, China, UK, Canada - or just one from them? - And the next important question is: What for a laws should apply to there?: How at already mentioned Big8 way maybe? - And the another also important question would: What for a economy/value should it give?: Because if the Mars really colonized will, then need a payment-system - with another words said; A new value. Somehow I can't image, that 8 different values give should: I mean; no Mars$ or Mars€ - That is also very important etc...~>

 

[Ghost Kitty~]

hmm... i'd say probably the only way i'd agree to go to live on mars and never come back is if all my family and friends were dead and there was already some type of advanced or modernized civilization up there (preferably humanoid at least in part) with plenty of stuff to do and places to go

but i'd rather be able to travel around to multiple planets and galaxies and dimensions etc as i please~

Humanoid... /me thinks of nekomimis... xD
I do think thatll drag some people over... xD

 

[LioNeeZ]

[MENTION=29193]nanashi1[/MENTION], well actually it will be controlled by the first people or those who manage the project waaaay up there, since most of the goverments signed a document that dosent allow them to own any parts of outerspace.
well that is what I understood at the least

P.S - actually I was thinking of another question that is interesting, what are the laws that will be there and here if they find an alien on mars, we might end up in a galagtic warefare over which side gets to dissect that alien, and if he is intelegend will they hold a court for him on mars on earth, soo many questions.

 

[Ghost Kitty~]

Hmm act like the colonies and places they were colonizing? Sort of just tricking the natives into giving everything they wanted =w=

 

[InorixShu]

hmm I was mentioned here

 

[nanashi1]

hmm I was mentioned here

Eigentlich nicht da, sondern in 'Anime Talk' Abschnitt...~>

Notice: Willkommen, und g'Abend Inori-chan...!!!

 

[InorixShu]

huh? Ich wurde woanders erwähnt?

G'Abend~

 

[nanashi1]

huh? Ich wurde woanders erwähnt?

Ja, besser gesagt; Hier (Post #78)...~>

 

[InorixShu]

Ich hab mir das schon angesehen ;)
das war ein paar erwähnungen vorher~~

 

[nanashi1]

Ich hab mir das schon angesehen ;)
das war ein paar erwähnungen vorher~~

Gut dann...

...Aber ich, oder wir sollten lieber von hier weg bewegen - Ich will den eigedlichen Thema beschmutzen hier, okay?~>

Z.B. bei 'Lathest thoughts'

 

[gershy]

I would not go , just because i love to just walk in a park , sit on a bench , have sex , other things .

PS: You cant have babies on other planets : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTL_sJycQAA

 

[Panda]

This project is bordering ludicrous and just plain dumb.

1) You can't just build a dome and wear spacesuits to colonize Mars. If you do, you're going to die in a very short time. You'd have to go to the point of terraforming Mars. The only creditable theories that scientists have come up with involve centuries of preparation.

The Earth took billions of years to become habitable for complex life; Mars is no different. (If anything, it'll take longer to terraform Mars because the process is artificial. This is after assuming that the theories are correct and that there is a way to terraform Mars.)

2. Mars does not have a magnetosphere. Suppose that people on Mars somehow survive the conditions long enough to physically age (years), they would later die from the solar radiation...even if they were able to come back to Earth. These are the harmful types of radiation-- we're talking about ionizing rays; not microwaves or radio waves.

I could go on, but I think I'll end it here.

Besides, if NASA (actual professionals including research scientists, astrophysicists, etc.) dissuade human travel to Mars without required technology, and Dennis Tito (a multi-millionaire "space tourist") suggests that launching human guinea pigs to space with no form of protection and no way to get back to Earth is viable.... Well, OBVIOUSLY we should all trust this Dennis guy.

We don't have the technology now, and it's extremely unlikely we'll have it in 10 years. We can't colonize Mars until we can terraform it. And until then, going on a one-way trip to Mars is a poorly thought out experiment with a predicted outcome: death.

 

[FinalPyre]

PS: You cant have babies on other planets : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTL_sJycQAA

A. the video itself states that is just speculation
B. that involves low-earth orbit, not being on other planets.


[MENTION=65714]Panda[/MENTION]; of course you can just build a dome. You can build a dome to protect you from various harsh elements and radiation, and then ideally get it to perfectly recycle the water and air using solar energy. The only problem is that it is slightly ridiculous to suggest perfect recycling.
The main idea, as far as I'm aware, of this excursion is to set up a base, and get more data on Mars. I don't think anyone expects that they will create a sustainable colony on their first attempt... but maybe some actually do.

 

[HatoriTakaya]

There's a lot of problems ahead with these type of projects as you can tell. Regarding that Dennis guy, he sees anyone that is below what he consider value should be used as dispensable experiments that should be used at hostile environment.

Now moving on from this person...what I see that is a problem that hasn't been mentioned is that due to our current technology and differences from the two planets that has not been mentioned are the following:

• All our current technology and equipment was made in specification of Earth environment
• Creating a Bio-dome that can not sustain limited terraformed environmental changes for humans to survive in is suicide
• We have no way to gain our essentials from Mars at the moment. If supplies has to be transported to help progress the colony, this can takes decades (wishful thinking) to centuries.
• If you heard of the conditions to working in Antarctica and the skills you required. You will understand that you'll need more than that to survive at Mars
• Psychological effects and impacts in isolation are multiplied based on the individual ability to handle it.
• The rest was mentioned within the two pages. (Ownership, Politics, Currency, Value, Law and Order, etc)

 

[LioNeeZ]

well they are smart people who considered this possibility so I think they are doing the tests to back up their claims,
soo...

- about that dome and that they practiced its reliability here on earth is out of the question, because they mimic in some closed area mars's environmental conditions.

- the supplies problem is also not an issue because
they plan to give some extra supplies and shipments of supplies to mars every now and than.

- ehhm actually I didnt heard of those so I cant say

- well that is a risk to consider

I am too sleepy to suggest anything at the moment

 

[Panda]

@FinalPyre

The main scientific reason to colonize Mars is to make it habitable in case Earth becomes unsuitable for life; we can't do that if Mars isn't self-sustaining. If we could build a semi-functioning dome (with current technology), we could theoretically live, but without continuous supplies from Earth, humans would die out.

The only long-term solution is to terraform Mars, or to create a dome that is sufficient for all necessities of life (food, water, oxygen, etc.). Like you said, the problem is that we can't live in a dome without the help of Earth. This renders the entire concept void and somewhat pointless.

And of course, we can't terraform Mars either, so there's currently no way to colonize the planet.

 

[FinalPyre]

@FinalPyre

The main scientific reason to colonize Mars is to make it habitable in case Earth becomes unsuitable for life; we can't do that if Mars isn't self-sustaining. If we could build a semi-functioning dome (with current technology), we could theoretically live, but without continuous supplies from Earth, humans would die out.

The only long-term solution is to terraform Mars, or to create a dome that is sufficient for all necessities of life (food, water, oxygen, etc.). Like you said, the problem is that we can't live in a dome without the help of Earth. This renders the entire concept void and somewhat pointless.

And of course, we can't terraform Mars either, so there's currently no way to colonize the planet.

Just so you know, you need to add a semi-colon ( ; ) after the name for the mention to work. ;)

I think this is perhaps where I see what you might be misunderstanding in this endeavor, though. I very, very strongly doubt that the purpose of this excursion even has slight ideas about making Mars a 'second earth'. It is about visiting another planet, about extending our reach in our solar system, and about developing a base on another planet (still not sure why they didn't go for the moon first though... maybe they just don't think it is grand enough, or will yield enough new information at this point).

I think it is safe to assume that at least a decent quantity of people working on this project have cutting edge information and understanding on the relevant topics. I don't think anyone is under the illusion of some grand plan of terra-forming Mars. I'm sure it will be looked into and considered, but entirely as a side idea. If there is no water, and no feasible way to create atmosphere, it simply wont work (unless some clever solution surfaces).

 

[Second_Flight]

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[Ghost Kitty~]

Hmm... suddenly it went from one in stock to six? O.o

@pyre Well it does say that you wont be coming back? :/

 

[Selvaria Bles]

Let's look at what that entails.

You will be leaving everything behind for a life of hardship.

I have a question for you all what would you bring with you if you go?

Remember you can only bring one thing with you?

 

[Ghost Kitty~]

Lol but life of fame maybe =w= If theyre successful~

 

[Selvaria Bles]

You wouldn't see your family again, its one way trip

 

[T-ELOS]

I would go only if a successful colony was already established, and we have everything we had back on Earth such as internet, computers, stores, electricity, food, water. If not, then I'm fine on Earth, I'll leave the pioneering to someone else.