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[nanashi1]

Battlefield3 mostly :3

Ahh... Then a Ego-shoter... Was fun, and who have won...?

 

[Ghost Kitty~]

Hmm all that for gaming xD Well i guess itll run pretty nicely xD

 

[Hanagai]

Ahh... Then a Ego-shoter... Was fun, and who have won...?

we played on the same team so 50/50 :P

http://gyazo.com/c54f58740cfba829de773f1cee4dd83d

 

[nanashi1]

we played on the same team so 50/50 :P

http://gyazo.com/c54f58740cfba829de773f1cee4dd83d

Okay, but what want you with this page/software to me say...???

 

[Hanagai]

showoff :P >.>

 

[Ghost Kitty~]

Hmm showing off... well i barely know what that is so oh wells ;p

 

[GenKiDan]

[MENTION=27986]Eucliwood[/MENTION] ; Well Samy may not know but it works for me EUcli ! I got 7.5 performance atm, but I've down clocked my cpu from 4.4 ghz to just 4 now, and I don't remember if that result was from before or after.....

I think we buy some stuff from the same place btw :P They built it for you? And whats your GPU ? it didn't say.

And ofc lastly, CONGRATZ a lot. Have fun and enjoy. Let me see if I can dig up an old screenshot of me playing bf3 beta....I was on the top of the list !

 

[Hanagai]

[MENTION=27986]Eucliwood[/MENTION] ; Well Samy may not know but it works for me EUcli ! I got 7.5 performance atm, but I've down clocked my cpu from 4.4 ghz to just 4 now, and I don't remember if that result was from before or after.....

I think we buy some stuff from the same place btw :P They built it for you? And whats your GPU ? it didn't say.

And ofc lastly, CONGRATZ a lot. Have fun and enjoy. Let me see if I can dig up an old screenshot of me playing bf3 beta....I was on the top of the list !

thye built it at the place i bought from, i just picked the parts :P i bought everything from Komplett

http://gyazo.com/b034b0dbe92ba4f97a568d1615b0753f

 

[GenKiDan]

[MENTION=27986]Eucliwood[/MENTION] ; Yupp well thats the same place I ordered my parts from, at least most of it.
You can at least be assured you'll have enough ram for a good time with your 16gb, is all that just for gaming btw ? It's too bad I don't play bf3....I would have if it was on steam instead of origin.

Bet you probably plan to play some bf4 as well. I'll just go play some 'don't starve' on my gtx580 for now haha, I'm so lame IK.

 

[Hanagai]

[MENTION=27986]Eucliwood[/MENTION] ; Yupp well thats the same place I ordered my parts from, at least most of it.
You can at least be assured you'll have enough ram for a good time with your 16gb, is all that just for gaming btw ? It's too bad I don't play bf3....I would have if it was on steam instead of origin.

Bet you probably plan to play some bf4 as well. I'll just go play some 'don't starve' on my gtx580 for now haha, I'm so lame IK.

haha :) yea, it's for gaming and video editing and ''other stuff'' ~wink wink~

cant wait for BF4, wanna play it os mutch! :3

 

[GenKiDan]

haha :) yea, it's for gaming and video editing and ''other stuff'' ~wink wink~

cant wait for BF4, wanna play it os mutch! :3

It was nice watching the trailer haha and that was enough for me (bf4). yeah I though about asking for video editing, though....I'd love to know more about that other stuff....;) I just don't know so much about other stuff that is ram heavy. I think I'll have to drop by your profile again soon if I remember it and don't get busy with too much other things.

 

[Hanagai]

It was nice watching the trailer haha and that was enough for me (bf4). yeah I though about asking for video editing, though....I'd love to know more about that other stuff....;) I just don't know so much about other stuff that is ram heavy. I think I'll have to drop by your profile again soon if I remember it and don't get busy with too much other things.

:)

 

[Second_Flight]

uuuuu.......... 16gb.. i just 8gb...... >,< hope can play bf 4 too...

 

[Ghost Kitty~]

Hmm... whats lower gb do?

 

[Dark Angel]

well it probably will not have to good performance :)

 

[FinalPyre]

I REALLY doubt there is any game that would be hindered by 8GB of ram!!!

You could probably play it on 4gb just fine...

It is your graphics card, and sometimes your processor that slow you down~

 

[Dark Angel]

well maybe is running something else in background wile is gaming ;) but in order to do that you must have a good processor

 

[GenKiDan]

uuuuu.......... 16gb.. i just 8gb...... >,< hope can play bf 4 too...

Your cpu (processor) and especially gpu (graphics card) will be more important for you than the amount of ram, especially if you have 8gb already.
FinalPyre is right about that.

Hmm... whats lower gb do?

Well ram is memory, short term memory that is, compared to your hard drive, which is also "memory" but referred to as 'storage' which is long term but very very much slower. Your pc holds information it needs and works with in the memory/ram for quick access. Which is many many times faster than your HDD (hard disk drive) that is used for permanent storage. If you don't have enough ram, and your computer runs out of it, it will be forced to start using its virtual memory i.e. it will be forced to use the terrifying slow HDD instead. When it does it uses what is called a 'page file' on your HDD that acts as virtual memory in place of your real 'physical memory'. It's possible to disable the page file btw, and I know some recommend doing that if you have enough RAM. If you do run out of memory though and your page file is disabled, I think you can expect your pc to crash/freeze, or at least the application running that needs more ram.

RAM = Random access Memory. Anything stored in the ram disappears shortly after the power is removed from the pc or ram. Thats one reason why slow magnetic discs are used for permanent storage, since they hold the information even without power.

There is also a difference of the amount of ram, and the speed of ram. I got 8gb of ddr3 memory with a speed of 1600mhz. Now if you shop for memory modules you can see designations like PC-12800 ect. Thats the bandwith of the module. Which you can calculate by taking the rated speed * bits per clock. And that would look like this= 1600*8=12800. So modules rated for 1600mhz can transfer 12800mb/s. An other thing is its latency, often spoken of as 'CAS' But I'll leave that subject perhaps for an other day I think.

Oh well why not. So. Latency, I'll keep it superficial. Most often just called CAS which is the most important one. And to keep things simple I won't involve anything else. Example you see, ddr3 1600c9. Which means the module takes 9 ticks to respond. You can calculate a ram modules real latency in Time like this: 9/1600*2000= 11.25ns. So thats 11.25 nano seconds. Sometimes it can be confusing to know which type of ram is fastest when you see modules with higher mhz and higher CAS latency vs modules with lower mhz but also lower CAS. With this simple calculation above you can check too find out.

Example:
ddr1333c5 and ddr1600c6 actually both have the same exact latency at 7.5ns

Though keep in mind that the ddr1600 has higher bandwith at 12800mb/s vs 10600mb/s. So the winner is the ddr1600c6 in this case.

But honestly, you should all know that the real world benefit is so small that, just make sure you have enough ram, and get a decent cpu and gpu if its for gaming. By having some marginally better ram might just give you a performance increase of ~1+ percent as have been observed in some tests.

P.s. back in the past the calc was like this cas/mhz*1000. But the reason its 2000 is because its DDR now in our days (ddr=dual data rate) for those who'd want to know.

Neat points To know:
Latency= CAS/mhz*2000
Bandwith= mhz*8

 

[Dark Angel]

also the existence of an SSD drive will make huge difference OLD day the bottleneck of a high end pc was the CPU,,, now is the HDD so the SSD i the only way to achieved tremendous performance.

 

[FinalPyre]

[MENTION=25661]GenKiDan[/MENTION]; knows his shit!

Though write times for RAM isn't always that great either >_>

It works best if you want to use the same values many times. :)

I myself have 16GB of 1600mhz RAM, but I only ever use a fraction of it. If I ever look into doing some 3d work though it will be worth it, and then I might even consider adding another two sticks for 32GB, as right now I'm using two 8GB sticks.

Where gaming is concerned, while RAM is important, having a ton of it won't help you at all. I think it is weird that they often try to sell computers and stress how much RAM it has, when for the average computer user all they need is 4GB (or even less, for casual users). :P

also the existence of an SSD drive will make huge difference OLD day the bottleneck of a high end pc was the CPU,,, now is the HDD so the SSD i the only way to achieved tremendous performance.

I'm pretty sure the bottleneck is still the CPU. Good luck getting your CPU to process even what a normal mechanical drive can throw at it fast enough.

 

[Dark Angel]

Well i bought my AllienWare with the 32GB capacity but they are so much that i don't think even after 10 years will be there an OS or a program that will need them...

For me the important things are SSD & VGA

 

[GenKiDan]

[MENTION=37707]FinalPyre[/MENTION] ; Thanks hehe, I edit so much I wonder if you read the latest rendition or a former xD

[MENTION=44312]Dark Angel[/MENTION] ; I do agree with you about the SSD mostly and relatively, all though I'm a bit rusty and don't pay attention to the technology anymore. Even the "slow" new CPU's of today are pretty fast relatively speaking ofc. And the HDD is the oldest and slowest bottleneck that we still ahve with us from the past as to my knowing. But I think you and pyre are both right, but might unknowingly be talking "over each others heads" Cause in terms of gaming power, Pyre is right about the CPU, but in general terms you are right about the SSD. Seeing, as far as I know the game files are loaded into RAM anyways for use while playing, (might be small exceptions perhaps)so CPU would be a priority.
But in generally making the PC snappier and reactive inc Operating System and application launch times, boot times, SSD is a clear winner. Even older laptops can feel like new when given an SSD I've heard, though never gotten to test myself.

But since I have an SSD myself, I've noticed that loading screens in games sometimes loads so fast that I don't have time anymore to read the text it's often displaying. Also my pc boots in about ~9 seconds if I remember correctly.

In short I love SSD, just wish they could hurry up and get cheaper so I can replace my HDD entirely. As of now I only use a 80gb intel SSD as a systems drive for OS, apps and games. And a regular HDD for storage. The regular HDD feels soo sloow.....but it probably doesn't help it feel less slow running encryption on it as well.....

When I have bought and built my pc for gaming, the most costly piece I buy is the VGA/GPU. Relative to gaming that is. But I Overclock my cpu anyways.

 

[Dark Angel]

Importance is to kill the unnecessary task that works in background that's common wen we do measures with CPU-Z and other statics programs for performance ;)

 

[FinalPyre]

[MENTION=25661]GenKiDan[/MENTION]; at the time of my reading, you had decided you wouldn't bother talking about CAS :) Now it is even better!

And yeah [MENTION=44312]Dark Angel[/MENTION]; I just meant peak of performance-wise, that the CPU would be the cap. But for every-day applications and boot times, SSD makes an awesome difference!

Specifically I was thinking of video transcoding: I can copy the average episode of 720p anime onto my mechanical drive in about 2 seconds (or less), but it still takes me about 4-5 minutes to transcode the file (decently) to another container. This of course is also largely effected by HOW we store the data (what codec was used to compress the video, especially with things like Hi10 P), which takes up less space, but takes more CPU to process.

I'm not actually much of a gamer, so I'm not sure what would make the biggest difference with games. I'm guessing SSD would help with load times, but it would not really help once the game is running.

 

[Dark Angel]

Yeap the SSD are becoming handy in those matters :)