Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

[Second Brew]

I like it when h-game not just excel in visual, audio, story but also seiyuu. without good seiyuu, i can't really immerse in the story no matter how good the story is. then again japan seiyuu are usually decent but sometimes you encounter bad ones in h-anime..

oh yeah, i forgot to ask this, is there any relation between Maro no Kanja wa Gatenkei and Boku no Kanojo wa gatenkei . The heroine is similar and working in construction site?!

Nope, no relation.

 

[DiabolicalGenius]

oh yeah, i forgot to ask this, is there any relation between Maro no Kanja wa Gatenkei and Boku no Kanojo wa gatenkei . The heroine is similar and working in construction site?!

Only related in that they're both from Elf and the same writer, and Maro seems to be next in a series following the theme of a tomboy type heroine with a tool belt being involved in an extended plot about NTR. Though both have different characters and plot, and while Boku is mostly told from the husband's perspective, Maro seems to start off from the NTR guy's perspective.
Otherwise they're completely separate games.

 

[Animefan_09]

Only related in that they're both from Elf and the same writer, and Maro seems to be next in a series following the theme of a tomboy type heroine with a tool belt being involved in an extended plot about NTR. Though both have different characters and plot, and while Boku is mostly told from the husband's perspective, Maro seems to start off from the NTR guy's perspective.
Otherwise they're completely separate games.

you forgot the fact that boku is more painfull, in maro the protagonist develots a fetish for the ntr and is almost a comedy sometimes xD

 

[hgawa61]

Only related in that they're both from Elf and the same writer, and Maro seems to be next in a series following the theme of a tomboy type heroine with a tool belt being involved in an extended plot about NTR. Though both have different characters and plot, and while Boku is mostly told from the husband's perspective, Maro seems to start off from the NTR guy's perspective.
Otherwise they're completely separate games.

haha, its unique to have heroine wearing tool belt. it seems very interesting.

you forgot the fact that boku is more painfull, in maro the protagonist develots a fetish for the ntr and is almost a comedy sometimes xD

which one do u prefer?. Both seems very good. I need something to fill the void after Marina game :D

Just tried Ochiru Hitozuma, getting into first h-scene. Story and arts is good but the writing leaves smthg to be desired.
The heroine characters and seiyuu voice are too generic, and maybe because of that i didnt really feel the soul from the characters.
I wish atelier sakura concentrates on Marina so the next game can come sooner, sigh...

 

[Selendius]

haha, its unique to have heroine wearing tool belt. it seems very interesting.

which one do u prefer?. Both seems very good. I need something to fill the void after Marina game :D

Just tried Ochiru Hitozuma, getting into first h-scene. Story and arts is good but the writing leaves smthg to be desired.
The heroine characters and seiyuu voice are too generic, and maybe because of that i didnt really feel the soul from the characters.
I wish atelier sakura concentrates on Marina so the next game can come sooner, sigh...

well.. if you want to fill the void after playing ntr gawe, harem games is a better choice to do that select another ntr game..
don't make the pain worsen except you really does like that pain feels.. :p

 

[slamjamdame]

I know is sounds crazy but those anyone feel anger when you play NTR game or a feeling like "that's supposed to be me who bang her not him".....??????

 

[hgawa61]

well.. if you want to fill the void after playing ntr gawe, harem games is a better choice to do that select another ntr game..
don't make the pain worsen except you really does like that pain feels.. :p

haha..i dont think i have ntr fetish..maybe..haha..
but i like mystery in ntr game, like will she tell a lie, will she f***ed/cheat her partner, etc.
and i dont know harem game with good story? do u have recommendation? :D

I know is sounds crazy but those anyone feel anger when you play NTR game or a feeling like "that's supposed to be me who bang her not him".....??????

isn't that supposed to be the purpose of the author? make u rage over the ntr game..
i rage over manga Tachibana-san circumstances because the way author build the story. i thought it was vanilla at first but it switched to ntr.
but for the game i already know first that its going to be ntr, i dont really feel anger i think, just aroused :D

 

[starlightbreaker]

Hey guys, I found out something pretty interesting on Onborotsuki's twitter. He's the the Atelier Sakura writer for those of you who don't know

first, his upcoming title will have a setting that goes like this.

Husband: say, won't you cheat on me a bit
Wife: no way
Wife highschool reunion
NTR things happenings
Husband: well then, how did it go?
Wife: I told you, I didn't cheat
Husband: oh really now, c'mon you can tell me
cheating confession

Now this is where it gets interesting
Onborotsuki said it's based on his real life observation, but in this case it was his girlfriend, not wife

another twitter asked "did you ask her why did she cheated on you"
Onborotsuki said "It wasn't cheating, I told her to go ahead should a situation like that arrives"
another twitter then said "Onborutsuki, I wanna go out drinking with you"
another twitter then said "oh, but are you going out with him because you feel sorry or because you feel jealous?"

funny stuff
man, the man really takes it a step beyond if he does that in real life too

 

[stupid_army]

Hey guys, I found out something pretty interesting on Onborotsuki's twitter. He's the the Atelier Sakura writer for those of you who don't know

first, his upcoming title will have a setting that goes like this.

Husband: say, won't you cheat on me a bit
Wife: no way
Wife highschool reunion
NTR things happenings
Husband: well then, how did it go?
Wife: I told you, I didn't cheat
Husband: oh really now, c'mon you can tell me
cheating confession

Now this is where it gets interesting
Onborotsuki said it's based on his real life observation, but in this case it was his girlfriend, not wife

another twitter asked "did you ask her why did she cheated on you"
Onborotsuki said "It wasn't cheating, I told her to go ahead should a situation like that arrives"
another twitter then said "Onborutsuki, I wanna go out drinking with you"
another twitter then said "oh, but are you going out with him because you feel sorry or because you feel jealous?"

funny stuff
man, the man really takes it a step beyond if he does that in real life too

So basically Mariko story is based on his story...

DAMN!

 

[ntr]

new picture from elf site.

 

[Darkwings]

I know is sounds crazy but those anyone feel anger when you play NTR game or a feeling like "that's supposed to be me who bang her not him".....??????

[Elf] Debris is one example. I have these feeling when I tried it. If the writer with much experience, they will hire you and build up story in which you do not know about who is NTR's guy. The conclusion will come when you less doubt. That's one of my favourite NTR story.

About my fetish for NTR is NTR is not handsome guy. It will be greater if he is not popular or ugly, old man.

 

[starlightbreaker]

I think it's more like Reina, but I dunno. I'll see what he says

 

[Yawn]

Husband: say, won't you cheat on me a bit

Man, it's really disappointing to see Atelier Sakura going full-cuckold mode with all their new games. I miss the days of Hoka no Otoko 3. Now that was total NTR corruption completely against the MC's will, with a climactic impregnation scene to boot. I wish they would put out something as intense as that again.

 

[stupid_army]

I think it's more like Reina, but I dunno. I'll see what he says

Spoiler: Mariko

CMIIW, MC in Mariko story is an eroge writer. In the story for the first time ever he write NTR story. While he writing the story, his wife, Mariko secretly having affair with her boss. And there is NTR confession scene too in this game.

 

[starlightbreaker]

Spoiler: Mariko

CMIIW, MC in Mariko story is an eroge writer. In the story for the first time ever he write NTR story. While he writing the story, his wife, Mariko secretly having affair with her boss. And there is NTR confession scene too in this game.

Well in case of Mariko

本作の主人公で真理子の夫。
おんぼろ月という名前で、寝取られアダルトゲームブランド“アトリエさくら”で寝取られゲームを作っている

It literally says the protagonist uses "Onborotsuki" as a pen name while working for Atelier Sakura

 

[starlightbreaker]

Man, it's really disappointing to see Atelier Sakura going full-cuckold mode with all their new games. I miss the days of Hoka no Otoko 3. Now that was total NTR corruption completely against the MC's will, with a climactic impregnation scene to boot. I wish they would put out something as intense as that again.

True.. it has become a bit too nice. I'm not saying the wife has to be a totally mean person, but it would be nice to go to the good old days of "I'm going to enjoy this without your given consent, and you are going get an erection over this whether you like it or not"

I think one of the appeals of netorare is the wife having.. what's the word.. sexual agency. Ie: she's doing this not for the husband but for her own enjoyment at the expense of the husband

I guess balance is the key.. if it's too selfish than that's just cheating.
If it's too consensual than the tension is lowered

It's probably really hard striking that balance
And that's also the reason why Reina is my favorite wife game from AtelierSakura. Almost everything about her is perfect. The way she is hesitant when confronted, the way she attempts to lie the teeth thru it, and eventually how she just rolls with it and teases him

 

[hgawa61]

True.. it has become a bit too nice. I'm not saying the wife has to be a totally mean person, but it would be nice to go to the good old days of "I'm going to enjoy this without your given consent, and you are going get an erection over this whether you like it or not"

I think one of the appeals of netorare is the wife having.. what's the word.. sexual agency. Ie: she's doing this not for the husband but for her own enjoyment at the expense of the husband

I guess balance is the key.. if it's too selfish than that's just cheating.
If it's too consensual than the tension is lowered

It's probably really hard striking that balance
And that's also the reason why Reina is my favorite wife game from AtelierSakura. Almost everything about her is perfect. The way she is hesitant when confronted, the way she attempts to lie the teeth thru it, and eventually how she just rolls with it and teases him

But it seems the arts a bit lacking?! i havent played the game, just from the CG from internet.
i mean compared to other atelier sakura games?
thats the only thing keeping me from trying it..

 

[starlightbreaker]

I don't have any problems with the artstyle, but that's just me

 

[DiabolicalGenius]

which one do u prefer?. Both seems very good. I need something to fill the void after Marina game :D

Lot of posts built up since you asked but I'll answer anyway. Definitely Boku, since it's much more serious, sympathetic and emotional and is mainly NTR which is much more to my tastes.
I actually haven't played Maro much since (I forgot to mention) unlike the Boku game which is a full story and is complete by itself, they decided to release the Maro on in 4 parts and only parts 1 and 2 have been released. Plus as recently discussed here Elf has had some recent problems with staff leaving to form a new company setting back the development of 3 & 4 a fair bit though they seem to be back on track now. So I don't really want to get into it until the whole story is there. But as Animefan_09 said so far Maro has been a lot more light-hearted than Boku. But since it's only half done, there's no telling whether the author will turn around and have it turn serious with a twist development or something.
Anyway, Boku is a must play even if you're only a little interested in NTR. Even if you don't have a full on fetish, the story and characters are compelling enough to enjoy it so long as you're not a total NTR hater.

[MENTION=16856]starlightbreaker[/MENTION] Wow, I'm pretty impressed that Onborotsuki has dabbled with netorase in real life and is writing from experience. Not that surprised though since you can feel it from his writing.
In fact I suspect that the event he talks about might be responsible for his sudden shift from proper NTR stories to mainly netorase and NTR confession themed plot. Was it before the Reina game that it happened? Or did he come up with the plot for the cheating confession for the Reina game and then seeing the opportunity actually asked his girlfriend to go for it? It's interesting to wonder.

Though with the way he is now it looks like full on hard hitting netorare isn't going to be on the cards from him from now on. Like [MENTION=38951]Yawn[/MENTION] said it's a shame, but it looks like this is the kind of thing he prefers now. Even when he does stories where the heroine betrays the protag, he almost always arranges it so that they stay together even if she keeps on cheating with the other guy.

 

[starlightbreaker]

well if the Shin Hokahara is any indication than it doesn't always end with the girl going back to the protagonist. But honestly Shin Hokahara's problem is that the protagonist just didn't have enough emotional investment

 

[Darkwings]

Man, it's really disappointing to see Atelier Sakura going full-cuckold mode with all their new games. I miss the days of Hoka no Otoko 3. Now that was total NTR corruption completely against the MC's will, with a climactic impregnation scene to boot. I wish they would put out something as intense as that again.

I totally agree with your opinion. Hoka no Otoko 3 is great one with beautiful art and intense sex scenes.

About "Marina no "Netorase" Houkoku", Am I the only one who have not played it, because I have not found any enthusiasm with it. I mean I prefer H-game with "happy ending" than "Normal ending" like Marina. Maybe we will have "happy ending" in Marina 3 if so I will definitely get it. With me the "happy ending" is final victory for villain guy, it can push the story to the end of despair and that is what I am waiting for Marina 3.

I wonder whether Marina 2 is NTR of Netorase. LOL. Well, if they release Marina 3, I will download 2 older parts.
I found some comment as

The husband ( Kenji ) is the guy bathing with the woman ( Marina ) and the girl is their daughter
Kenji lend her wife to the blonde guy ( Nakamura ) in Kashidashi Tsuma 1
and in this sekuel, he lend her to the muscular guy ( Yamashita ) who is an ex AV actor

Could someone answer my question as:
1) In second part, Has Marina still lived with Kenji?
2) Did Kenji get the fetish when he lend his wife to other guys?
3) Who is better in Sex between AV guy and Nakamura?
4) Has Marina still loved his husband?

 

[Animefan_09]

.......you know a game is good when there is page after page and more pages of discussion concerning it, the last time something like this happened gatenkei was released xD

 

[slamjamdame]

Could someone answer my question as:
1) In second part, Has Marina still lived with Kenji?
2) Did Kenji get the fetish when he lend his wife to other guys?
3) Who is better in Sex between AV guy and Nakamura?
4) Has Marina still loved his husband?[/QUOTE]

Well i can answer your question according to my own opinion after i play the game:

1 & 4) Yup he still living with marina & her daughter even they still loving each other

 

[downbelow]

2 - Kenji got the fetish by reading about it.
3 - AV guy is a lot better than Nakamura, it's not even close. Nakamura is just a kid.

I personally disagree about Hoka no Otoko 3. I thought it was fairly lame, great scenes sure, but like many of their netorare games it felt like there wasn't much between the protagonist and the girl to begin with. I think Elf has spoiled me, but there is often so little initial character development by atelier sakura. This started to change with the confession/netorase games to me, because unlike the netorare games you get a a good read on their characters and there is definitely something between the *protagonist and the woman. If I'm rooting for the bad guy, than it just doesn't feel like netorare.

 

[hgawa61]

Lot of posts built up since you asked but I'll answer anyway. Definitely Boku, since it's much more serious, sympathetic and emotional and is mainly NTR which is much more to my tastes.
I actually haven't played Maro much since (I forgot to mention) unlike the Boku game which is a full story and is complete by itself, they decided to release the Maro on in 4 parts and only parts 1 and 2 have been released. Plus as recently discussed here Elf has had some recent problems with staff leaving to form a new company setting back the development of 3 & 4 a fair bit though they seem to be back on track now. So I don't really want to get into it until the whole story is there. But as Animefan_09 said so far Maro has been a lot more light-hearted than Boku. But since it's only half done, there's no telling whether the author will turn around and have it turn serious with a twist development or something.
Anyway, Boku is a must play even if you're only a little interested in NTR. Even if you don't have a full on fetish, the story and characters are compelling enough to enjoy it so long as you're not a total NTR hater.

[MENTION=16856]starlightbreaker[/MENTION] Wow, I'm pretty impressed that Onborotsuki has dabbled with netorase in real life and is writing from experience. Not that surprised though since you can feel it from his writing.
In fact I suspect that the event he talks about might be responsible for his sudden shift from proper NTR stories to mainly netorase and NTR confession themed plot. Was it before the Reina game that it happened? Or did he come up with the plot for the cheating confession for the Reina game and then seeing the opportunity actually asked his girlfriend to go for it? It's interesting to wonder.

Though with the way he is now it looks like full on hard hitting netorare isn't going to be on the cards from him from now on. Like [MENTION=38951]Yawn[/MENTION] said it's a shame, but it looks like this is the kind of thing he prefers now. Even when he does stories where the heroine betrays the protag, he almost always arranges it so that they stay together even if she keeps on cheating with the other guy.

I didnt know that Maro only half done. thx for telling me.. i also prefer to play complete story. but i am afraid if i dont play it soon, someone will spoil all of the story. I dislike playing after knowing what will happen. taking all the fun out of it.

I totally agree with your opinion. Hoka no Otoko 3 is great one with beautiful art and intense sex scenes.

About "Marina no "Netorase" Houkoku", Am I the only one who have not played it, because I have not found any enthusiasm with it. I mean I prefer H-game with "happy ending" than "Normal ending" like Marina. Maybe we will have "happy ending" in Marina 3 if so I will definitely get it. With me the "happy ending" is final victory for villain guy, it can push the story to the end of despair and that is what I am waiting for Marina 3.

I wonder whether Marina 2 is NTR of Netorase. LOL. Well, if they release Marina 3, I will download 2 older parts.
I found some comment as

Could someone answer my question as:
1) In second part, Has Marina still lived with Kenji?
2) Did Kenji get the fetish when he lend his wife to other guys?
3) Who is better in Sex between AV guy and Nakamura?
4) Has Marina still loved his husband?

Marina 2 is netorase. i dont think the author will change the status quo as long as people enjoyed Marina 1 and 2.
and from what i gathered, it seems people are very please with Marina. i think author will keep Marina as netorase unless there's sudden change in staff or many people beg it to be NTR and i hope it to be that way :D
i cant even imagine if suddenly Marina going full NTR after all of that character's building, love between Marina and Kenji..people will rage hard over it i'm sure

1. yup, she still lives with him
2. at first he know about it from reading about it. but when he thinks about it, probably he had that fetish all along
3. of course AV guy. he is the best according to Marina
4. yup, always. he always be the first

btw, what is OP? the protagonist or the netori guy?