Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

[Smooth Che]

I know this is not the place to be asking this but here i go anyway, do you guys have any sugestions for a good netori game by ''good'' i mean a game where the mc really steals the girl for real and not just a few H scenes and that's it the end xD and if the ''stealing'' part is not by rape that would be great because that's too boring imo.

 

[Alchemist of Atlas]

I know this is not the place to be asking this but here i go anyway, do you guys have any sugestions for a good netori game by ''good'' i mean a game where the mc really steals the girl for real and not just a few scenes and that's it the end xD and if the ''stealing'' part is not by rape that would be great because that's too boring imo.

Look at the circle Heiantei. They're one of the best circles that do Netori where the MC stays with the girls for real, also, their Netori games do not involve rape.

 

[Namkapple]

Write them in Hiragana and I'll pass them to katakana... I hope I understood that part. e_e;;;;

Hot looking NTR, but... *sigh* Pink panties... Pink panties ruin everything! Dick should just tear them off and be done with it.

Thanks, and I would but it's for a security code so it expires. It has both Hiragana and Katakana numbers mixed ( I would feel like a retard if it turns out I'm wrong about this, and they are actually in Hiragana only.) I tried subbing in the Hiragana number counter-part but that didn't work either.

If you don't mind just write the Katakana 1-9 or something here or PM me? I don't really want to bother anyone which is why a site that can let me copy and paste them is preferable.

 

[Lastander]

I know this is not the place to be asking this but here i go anyway, do you guys have any sugestions for a good netori game by ''good'' i mean a game where the mc really steals the girl for real and not just a few scenes and that's it the end xD and if the ''stealing'' part is not by rape that would be great because that's too boring imo.

牝堕ち巨乳妻は俺のモノ ～負け組の俺が勝ち組の友人から美人妻を寝取る話～ by Anim. Dude gets revenge on the three guys who ruined his life by stealing their wives. Each girl has a route where they leave their husband and marry the MC, and there's a harem route where he has them all cheating with him behind their husbands backs. With two of the three girls things are 100% consensual too, more forceful with the other one. It felt a lot different from most netori games because there's a lot more detail in terms of the personal lives of the characters (since the MC needed to insert himself into the wives' lives in order to seduce them), plus there's story stuff for how the MC and his chosen girl(s) are living their lives in the end of each route, and the husbands are to some extent actual characters with personalities and portraits rather than faceless nobodies since they're the targets of the MC's revenge. Definitely a great netori game, was super disappointed with the sequel which felt completely different thematically.

EDIT: Namkapple, you can get the Katakana to copy-paste at Jisho.org. If you type the english romaji in upper case and search it will display the katakana, lower case will do hiragana.

 

[Smooth Che]

牝堕ち巨乳妻は俺のモノ ～負け組の俺が勝ち組の友人から美人妻を寝取る話～ by Anim. Dude gets revenge on the three guys who ruined his life by stealing their wives. Each girl has a route where they leave their husband and marry the MC, and there's a harem route where he has them all cheating with him behind their husbands backs. With two of the three girls things are 100% consensual too, more forceful with the other one. It felt a lot different from most netori games because there's a lot more detail in terms of the personal lives of the characters (since the MC needed to insert himself into the wives' lives in order to seduce them), plus there's story stuff for how the MC and his chosen girl(s) are living their lives in the end of each route, and the husbands are to some extent actual characters with personalities and portraits rather than faceless nobodies since they're the targets of the MC's revenge. Definitely a great netori game, was super disappointed with the sequel which felt completely different thematically.

EDIT: Namkapple, you can get the Katakana to copy-paste at Jisho.org. If you type the english romaji in upper case and search it will display the katakana, lower case will do hiragana.

Yeah this one is on my list, i wanted play the sequel first (f5 every 1 hour on the page of the game xD) but until now nothing of the crack... i will play this one then whatever, i think by the weekend i should begin or even sooner since the one i playing right now had me really bored until now and i might drop it, in the future i should pay more atention to the new netori games xD

 

[LonerPrime]

牝堕ち巨乳妻は俺のモノ ～負け組の俺が勝ち組の友人から美人妻を寝取る話～ by Anim. Dude gets revenge on the three guys who ruined his life by stealing their wives. Each girl has a route where they leave their husband and marry the MC, and there's a harem route where he has them all cheating with him behind their husbands backs. With two of the three girls things are 100% consensual too, more forceful with the other one. It felt a lot different from most netori games because there's a lot more detail in terms of the personal lives of the characters (since the MC needed to insert himself into the wives' lives in order to seduce them), plus there's story stuff for how the MC and his chosen girl(s) are living their lives in the end of each route, and the husbands are to some extent actual characters with personalities and portraits rather than faceless nobodies since they're the targets of the MC's revenge. Definitely a great netori game, was super disappointed with the sequel which felt completely different thematically.

You need to get familiar with the "Spoiler" tag setting mate. :P

 

[AliceT]

Just realised
http://www.at-sakura.net/ntr/brand/040/index.html
CG samples are complete now.

Demo when?

Game name please.

 

[LonerPrime]

[MENTION=130583]AliceT[/MENTION];

Title: 俺のセフレはカレシ持ち学生会長～生真面目JKがイキ狂って妊娠するまでの浮気SEX記録～
Getchu Link: http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=931607
Date: 30/12/2016

Happy N(TR)EW Year

On a side note, wishing Santa for more MILF NTR Titles. Maybe another Marina sequel? No prequel though pls.

 

[DiabolicalGenius]

Spoiler: Iro Yoridori

I totally agree. The netori guy in this game is basically the ultimate male sexual power fantasy. The "arrogant blonde dude" archetype shows up as the villain of a lot of NTR stories, and this game takes that to the ultimate extreme. If you can easily fuck any girl you want, why not fuck EVERY girl you want? This guy does that. At the very beginning of the game, the MC realizes that every day at lunch the guy takes a different girl up to the rooftop for sex, and that while he doesn't know what the rest of his routine is like, he figures that he goes through at least three girls every day. Throughout the game, even when the game is focusing on a particular heroine, there are throwaway comments about the guy going off with other girls.

Part of what's amazing about this game is how little the netori guy cares about anything, and how that seems to be so obvious to the MC, but that all the girls are so infatuated with the guy that they don't realize it or that they don't care. By the end it seems like some of them even understand his true nature, but they're still utterly devoted to him, because he's just THAT good.

Overall I think that Iro Yoridori is an instant all-time favorite for me, though I think my tastes lean towards Type A and general Netori more than many people in this thread. It kind of reminds me of Ver9's h-manga, which are another favorite of mine... really, I guess I just love anything where the netori guy ends up with a harem.

I can agree with some of that. And ver9 stuff is awesome, though it was the best when they still did it like a full colour manga rather than switching over to the typical CG gallery style of adding different text and expressions to the same cg for a whole scene. Still good, but was much better before that.
I'm also fond of type A, though it more because it gives a deeper sense of betrayal to me. But I also lose interest if she's just a happy slut who was never loyal to begin with, so it has to be somewhere in between. A girl who seems nice and faithful, but is either slowly tempted and corrupted or quickly seduced by incredible sexual chemistry and performance. A girl who's weak to pressure or is tricked is also good, so long as she isn't raped or blackmailed. That just makes the NTR cheap for me.
As for netori, I can enjoy it, but I can't really relate to the type of guy you're describing. The alpha, just doesn't give a damn, screws any girl he has his eye on type. I just can't put myself in that position. I'm fine with fantasising about being a guy who's potent, skilled in bed and popular with the ladies, but if he's just a bastard who doesn't give a damn who he hurts I can't really enjoy it. Since guys like that piss me off in real life.
I'm also a little tired of the fact that pretty much all netori games make sure the protag is justified in some way. It's always revenge against the man he's stealing from or the girl he's stealing, so he's either punishing them for wicked deeds, or the guy is a bastard and he's 'saving' the girl so she can be with a guy who treats her better and is better in bed. Anything so the reader can avoid any guilt and feel good about enjoying it.
Just once I'd like to see a netori story where the guy isn't actually out to steal the girl from the start and actually does care about the fact she's in a relationship and the other guy is actually a decent person. And the netori just happens because of chemistry or the circumstances or maybe some comical misunderstanding. Anything like that is fine, so long as you actually delve a realistic scenerio and how it feels to steal a girl like that. The guilt, the feeling of immorality and conquest, that kind of thing. Anything but a game that potrays stealing a woman from someone else as a 'heroic' act.
Just my taste though. Anyone ever heard of anything like that?

 

[Animefan_09]

I know this is not the place to be asking this but here i go anyway, do you guys have any sugestions for a good netori game by ''good'' i mean a game where the mc really steals the girl for real and not just a few H scenes and that's it the end xD and if the ''stealing'' part is not by rape that would be great because that's too boring imo.

Try Hitozuma something from black lilith, it was ok, although since it was rather dark maybe you won't like it.

 

[LonerPrime]

Did anyone come across the title 健気な新妻が、他の男にキス奉仕します。yet? I know it is NTR Type A but I am curious.

 

[Smooth Che]

Look at the circle Heiantei. They're one of the best circles that do Netori where the MC stays with the girls for real, also, their Netori games do not involve rape.

https://vndb.org/v14087 this one looks interesting.

 

[Alchemist of Atlas]

https://vndb.org/v14087 this one looks interesting.

I recommend it throughly. That's Heiantei's best game.

 

[DiabolicalGenius]

Did anyone come across the title 健気な新妻が、他の男にキス奉仕します。yet? I know it is NTR Type A but I am curious.

There's nothing wrong with NTR type A so long as it's done well and the girl just doesn't throw herself at another man without him having to do anything. I don't get the anti type A sentiment that's creeped into the thread since I was gone. Good NTR is good NTR, and everyone has their own taste in NTR. I think already stated my preferences though.

As far as I know that work should be on mikocon, but hasn't been leaked publically. So other than paying for it on DMM I'm not sure what else you can do.
But do you think it's still type A when the wife is cheating to earn money to pay off the debt her husband got forced on him? It seems to be the setting where she's doing it for him at first, but starts to enjoy it the more she does it. Not what you usually think about when you imagine Type A, a situation where a woman is cheating of her own will.

 

[LonerPrime]

[MENTION=7208]DiabolicalGenius[/MENTION];
Don't get my wrong my friend, I am a fan of NTR in all forms too, as long as excessive rape wasn't involved. For some reason rape just does not sit well with me but that is just a personal preference. As you mentioned that all NTR are good and I agree completely. Heck one of my absolute favorite titles called Kashidashi Tsuma Marina is a full blown NTR-A and I love it. The only reason I prefer NTR-B over NTR-A is because of the satisfaction the player gets turning a woman from resenting you in the beginning to not be able to live without you in the end. That is a whole different high. So if NTR-B is a gold medalist, then NTR-A is a silver medalist but the difference isn't too much because a good NTR-A is definitely better than a badly written NTR-B.

As far as your scenario goes about earning money to pay the husband's debt off[unfair or not], I would MOSTLY consider the NTR more of a B instead of A. My theory is that even if she did volunteer to sell her body, if given an opportunity to earn money in some other fashion rather than sleeping with stranger(s), she would definitely back off because at this point her loyalty is wholeheartedly to the husband. The notion is pretty evident from the fact that she decided to let herself get violated for the sake of her husband and right now all that is on her mind is to help her spouse out. Of-course there is another theory as well if the parameters are different. If it is an unhappy marriage and the wife solely decides to fuck strangers for the sake of family and children then she wouldn't have much qualms riding someone else's junior. It will satisfy her not only financially but physically as well which I don't think she would mind. It is definitely NTR-A from start to finish in that case.

 

[Animefan_09]

There's nothing wrong with NTR type A so long as it's done well and the girl just doesn't throw herself at another man without him having to do anything. I don't get the anti type A sentiment that's creeped into the thread since I was gone. Good NTR is good NTR, and everyone has their own taste in NTR. I think already stated my preferences though.

I think the issue is because many of the "netorare" type a that have come out are just a horny wife/lover who is an slut, sleeping left and right without any kind of remorse or conflict,plus many times there isn't even a hint that the girl loves or loved her origina partner.

 

[stupid_army]

[MENTION=7208]DiabolicalGenius[/MENTION];
Don't get my wrong my friend, I am a fan of NTR in all forms too, as long as excessive rape wasn't involved. For some reason rape just does not sit well with me but that is just a personal preference. As you mentioned that all NTR are good and I agree completely. Heck one of my absolute favorite titles called Kashidashi Tsuma Marina is a full blown NTR-A and I love it. The only reason I prefer NTR-B over NTR-A is because of the satisfaction the player gets turning a woman from resenting you in the beginning to not be able to live without you in the end. That is a whole different high. So if NTR-B is a gold medalist, then NTR-A is a silver medalist but the difference isn't too much because a good NTR-A is definitely better than a badly written NTR-B.

As far as your scenario goes about earning money to pay the husband's debt off[unfair or not], I would MOSTLY consider the NTR more of a B instead of A. My theory is that even if she did volunteer to sell her body, if given an opportunity to earn money in some other fashion rather than sleeping with stranger(s), she would definitely back off because at this point her loyalty is wholeheartedly to the husband. The notion is pretty evident from the fact that she decided to let herself get violated for the sake of her husband and right now all that is on her mind is to help her spouse out. Of-course there is another theory as well if the parameters are different. If it is an unhappy marriage and the wife solely decides to fuck strangers for the sake of family and children then she wouldn't have much qualms riding someone else's junior. It will satisfy her not only financially but physically as well which I don't think she would mind. It is definitely NTR-A from start to finish in that case.

Marina series is Netorase :)

 

[RavenGenobreaker]

I recommend it throughly. That's Heiantei's best game.

Love that game.

 

[hgawa61]

Games from that circle often feature strong slutty women, one that's not very common in VN or japanese media in general. The seiyuu performance is also better than most games, very slutty, at least in Kanojo no Okaa-san wa suki desu ka, great game.

 

[LonerPrime]

Marina series is Netorase :)

Heh okay maybe not the best of Type-A example. Then you can go ahead and imagine I said "Hodasarete... ~Karate Musume Chizuru no Jouji~" :P

 

[DiabolicalGenius]

Heh okay maybe not the best of Type-A example. Then you can go ahead and imagine I said "Hodasarete... ~Karate Musume Chizuru no Jouji~" :P

Yeah, netorase falls under the umbrella of NTR but for me it doesn't really register as netorare anymore. It was decent at first and marina is a great game with a great heroine, but after seeing a few of them I just stopped feeling any NTR backlash. I just can't sympathise with the protag once he tells his partner to do another guy himself, for the sake of his fetish. Or arranges for another man to seduce her without his knowledge. In that kind of situation there's no sense of loss or betrayal, and no matter what happens I feel the protag invited it on himself. If she leaves for the other guy or if it ruins their marriage and/or families a la netoraserare, he made that bed himself. That twisting in your gut when you see real NTR when a guy who's done nothing to deserve it is betrayed by the girl he loves, just isn't there. At least not for me. For me the protag has to be the victim, and anything he intentionally does to bring about the NTR lessens that. Not counts if he makes mistakes that end up with the girl getting stolen, or getting turned on when it happens. He has to deliberately mess things up for somer reason or other, or do something else that makes you lose sympathy for him. If he cheats first for example, that's a big minus. And in the case of the latest Venus games, when he fell for a married woman with a child and had a relationship with her, he lost all right to call himself a victim and can't say he was NTRed when some other guy does the same thing. It's the main reason I was disappointed in those games.
On the other hand I actually like it when the protag has the fetish himself. Just not when he makes it happen himself. I've been fantasising about a story for years where the guy has the fetish but is convinced it's not something he should do in real life and feels ashamed for even thinking it would be hot if his cute, devoted girlfriend did it with another guy. But it gets exposed to her and then she decides to make his fantasy come true. Not because she's a slut who just wants to cheat, but because she thinks it'll actually make him happy. Bonus points if her motives are pure at first, but after doing it she begins to get turned on by the situation and the idea of the man she loves seeing her cheat on him. That scenario would make my dick explode. Haven't seen anyone do it yet though.

Also, Karate musume was a good one. Type A done right. I hope venus does another like that one for their next game.

As far as your scenario goes about earning money to pay the husband's debt off[unfair or not], I would MOSTLY consider the NTR more of a B instead of A. My theory is that even if she did volunteer to sell her body, if given an opportunity to earn money in some other fashion rather than sleeping with stranger(s), she would definitely back off because at this point her loyalty is wholeheartedly to the husband. The notion is pretty evident from the fact that she decided to let herself get violated for the sake of her husband and right now all that is on her mind is to help her spouse out. Of-course there is another theory as well if the parameters are different. If it is an unhappy marriage and the wife solely decides to fuck strangers for the sake of family and children then she wouldn't have much qualms riding someone else's junior. It will satisfy her not only financially but physically as well which I don't think she would mind. It is definitely NTR-A from start to finish in that case.

I agree completely, though you do know I was describing the plot of the game you were asking about, not just a random question right? According to the summary her husband his friend ran out on a loan where he was the guarantor and was left with a 10million yen debt and is killing himself trying to pay it off. So she decides to do whatever she has to to help him, and ends up disguising herself as a high school girl (she was married fresh out of school) and do school girl prostitution. At least, that's how I understand it. So I was wondering why you called it Type A.

I think the issue is because many of the "netorare" type a that have come out are just a horny wife/lover who is an slut, sleeping left and right without any kind of remorse or conflict,plus many times there isn't even a hint that the girl loves or loved her origina partner.

I can totally believe that. Most companies will rather produce quick and easy nukige, rather than spend time, effort and funding to make a real game.
Nice to hear from you again Animefan. ;)

 

[LonerPrime]

I agree completely, though you do know I was describing the plot of the game you were asking about, not just a random question right? According to the summary her husband his friend ran out on a loan where he was the guarantor and was left with a 10million yen debt and is killing himself trying to pay it off. So she decides to do whatever she has to to help him, and ends up disguising herself as a high school girl (she was married fresh out of school) and do school girl prostitution. At least, that's how I understand it. So I was wondering why you called it Type A.

Yea I had a feeling you were talking about that since Dlsite gave that description somewhat. But the reason I said I was "curious" is because that description didn't delve into details. Basically she suggests a "solution" for the settling of the debt. Okay, but did she feel comfortable proposing it like a confident woman? Or was she making compromises and feeling awkward suggesting so? The screenshots suggest a Type A NTR behavior but they could be from any junction of the game. Could it be NTR B turning later into A or was it a hybrid form of A from start to end? Did she go back to the husband after the alleged "debt" was settled? Or did she find herself in the end with the debt collecting friend?

Many questions and my boner is more of an intellectual type. Must research answers. I need a lab coat the size of my junior....

 

[vkalvkal]

Marina series is Netorase :)

Yeah, that's why I didn't like Marina series. I can stand some decent netori, but not netorase.

I think the issue is because many of the "netorare" type a that have come out are just a horny wife/lover who is an slut, sleeping left and right without any kind of remorse or conflict,plus many times there isn't even a hint that the girl loves or loved her origina partner.

Yeah, companies should learn from elf and its materpiece Gatenkei.

Speaking of Gatenkei, does anyone knows of a game like that? I mean, let's say a "serious" NTR. Damn, I couldn't even fap to Gatenkei for how depressing and amazing it was.

Even in other NTR games that I enjoyed (Triangle Blue, Dark Blue, etc.), I didn't get sad for the protagonist because for the NTR to happen all you have to do is choose the obviously stupid choices, so in the end I didn't feel sad for them and wanted to punch them in the face.

 

[stupid_army]

Yeah, that's why I didn't like Marina series. I can stand some decent netori, but not netorase.



Yeah, companies should learn from elf and its materpiece Gatenkei.

Speaking of Gatenkei, does anyone knows of a game like that? I mean, let's say a "serious" NTR. Damn, I couldn't even fap to Gatenkei for how depressing and amazing it was.

Even in other NTR games that I enjoyed (Triangle Blue, Dark Blue, etc.), I didn't get sad for the protagonist because for the NTR to happen all you have to do is choose the obviously stupid choices, so in the end I didn't feel sad for them and wanted to punch them in the face.

Elf NTR game usually have good story, i recommend you to try them all, except AV king, because it's only one route NTR,

 

[vkalvkal]

Elf NTR game usually have good story, i recommend you to try them all, except AV king, because it's only one route NTR,

Oh, yeah, I've already played all of elf's games. :)