Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

What I find interesting is how different it is between cuckold and NTR. Cuckold seems tailored more to Western taste (?), I've watched western cuckold porn. I honestly can't enjoy it and can't understand why people like to imagine eating other man's cum. It seems so gay, lol.

I've finished playing Nanahayo albeit with few routes left. It's awesome, in the same level as NTRPG2. I honestly can't decide which one is better. Maybe NTRPG2 is slightly better since there is no RPG mechanic in that game. The only problem of Nanahayo that I've stated before is it's so damn long! When i finished 1st route my game time is 30 hours. I didn't skim through the text, but I did use password that unlock high level for characters and powerful technique to one-hit kill your enemies. If you want to play it, i totally recommend go that route. The enemies are hard to kill, can give you status effects like poison, stun, etc and to level up you need to spend so much time.

Prologue
MC is captured and forced to live in Beriente with his wife Yuraha and daughter Seriha. The city has iron rules, separating men and women, they can't live together. Men are forced to work either as city guard (high class) or monster elimination squad (low class). Women work either as prostitute or work in farm where they are forced to work until they die without outside contact. MC is tasked to eliminate monster in dungeons, he is permitted to bring either Yuraha or Seriha to accompany him in battle. Who you choose will determine which route the game will follow. If you succeed all your missions, you and the family will be free to go. One of them must stay in the city as hostage to prevent them from escaping. There are some challenges you have to accomplished, faling to do so will incure consequences and will change the outcome of the game.

The story is well written, many mysteries i haven't gotten the answer yet maybe because i only finished 2 routes. MC is left oblivious until much later in the game. Sometimes the POV is switched to the heroine for the player to see what happens behind MC's back. The "challenges" are very good because you're given option to prevent "stuff" from happening. Some of the challenges are hard, few are easy.

Since i don't particularly like loli, I find it hard to choose Seriha route. Seeing your loli daughter in bleak dystopian city is not exactly pleasant. I love her character though. I wish there's option to turn off enemies encounter, especially if I've finished the game. Battles especially later in the game are simply too hard, it's like the author want to punish us to want to rescue MC's family.
No voice in the game. Many of the CGs are recycled from same picture but the author use zooming, bluring the images so you won't notice it. Women model in the game a bit too same-y, only different body, hair color.

I totally recommend this game if you have time to spare. avoid enemies at all times. Enter the dungeon, kill the boss, pick up items when you can. Use the password
Password
Code:
71502

I'll agree internet cuckold porn is another beast in itself and the mainstream crap that is produced - honestly doesnt understand the whole fetish itself I think. A couple years back the US porn industry realized that amateur porn featuring wives was a big thing - but as they understood it "guys get off watching his wife with other men, but only wimps would do that. So he must be a wussy who eats cum from his wives snatch because really he's actually gay! Why? Again because what dude would let another man fuck his wife?!"

So they literally took this almost extreme edge out of the gate with it, showing cuckolds tied up or humiliated by their wives wearing panties or god what...honestly the porn industry had no idea but labelled it as wussy porn.

I've actually HEARD or rather read interviews with producers in LA that have said as much - they don't get it but it makes money so they produce it with this jaded vision. Some people buy it up too, especially deep red states for whatever reason.

The thing is from what I've read and seen via amateur cuckold porn - its nothing like that. Its a lot more like Marina, wife going out and fucking other men, maybe has to sit in the other room, or just film it with no interaction allowed. Whatever - but I don't think I've ever seen amateur porn as "jaded" as the mainstream porn cuckold version.

Now with that said creampies are a thing and it has nothing to do with being gay - and they certainly didn't start with wife sharing. From what I remember reading that whole thing began in mff porn with women snowballing after eating from each others pussies. Then it became a thing with dominatrix/SM where a dom would force her sub to eat his cum out of her pussy - not because he's gay but because she forced him to. A lot of women actually get turned on seeing their boyfriend or husband go down on them after sex - I had a friend who did this and his gf was like thats weird, why would u want to? And he was like I wanted to try it - now she like basically expects it because it gets her off. Its not his thing, but he does'nt care either - its his cum and as he put it she goes down on him after sex (tasting her own juices) so why wouldn't he go down on her?

Thats not gay - BUT eating ANOTHER mans cum definitely is another beast in itself DEPENDING on how its approached and the why. I recall for example in one NTR game by Tryset I think, where the husband is going down on his wife and this white stuff comes out. He suddenly realizes its another mans cum/aka she cheated on him - but she pushes his face back in as she about to orgasm before he can say anything. Then she denies it after. I think that falls well into NTR.

That game drove me nuts after that scene - I literally re-played that game SO many times to find out if she was having an affair behind your back. Eventually it becomes clear something happened but they never made a scene for it. Then I found out they released a special disc with the games release, couldn't find it anywhere online (and I TRIED) and had to buy it via amazon auctions in japan. Turned out there was a missing scene where the wife gets cornered one day on her way from work by a guy to be a model and they end up making a AV.

THAT was the scene missing and its presented like your the husband WATCHING the AV you found on your way home from work lol...so ya to me thats ntr and it all started WITH a creampie. The reason they CUT it from the game was because they felt it added a negative element to what was a game about being married happily lol...but you see - even naughty NTR things happen in happy matures. Just in different ways.

At its heart everybody's interest in netorare, cuckold, wife sharing, wife watching, wife stealing...whatever you want to call it are looking for something different. We might all be looking for elements that are similar but we all want our own thing from it. But american mainstream cuckold porn...i don't think anybody really wants lol.
 
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- what is the thing with these black dudes, no really?


On a basic level its contrast. Think of it this way, the majority of people into cuckold OR NTR are married to a white skinned women (be it japanese, chinese, korean or caucasian it's still a tone of white skin).

The contrast between that white skin and black skin highlights the fact that its not her husband she's fucking. That contrast highlights that.

Then on a second level theres the racial factor or rather racist factor that makes it taboo. While this is a big part of the fantasy (black on white) there is also a fantasy about white guys fucking asian girls who are dating asian guys because white guys have bigger dicks then asians - just as black guys have bigger dicks then white guys. This is not a new myth but its well known myth.

You ask most women they will tell you they've heard black guys have big dicks. The catch is the women who say this have never been with a black guy usually - and the women who have won't say that - instead they will say black guys are players.

That said I knew a girl who claimed on average black guys did have bigger dicks but some had smaller.

Which is really want this comes down to - the idea that your wife is being pleasured by a bigger dick is a turn on, bigger and better then yours. It just happens that black guys currently are on the top of the totem pole for this myth.

Nor is this just in american porn, I've played many eroge games where a black guy with a monster dick appears and fucks girls. The most recent Guilty game for example featured the main girl being fucked by black guys.

I think the difference between Japanese black on asian and US black and white - is that in US its what i explained above - in japan plus the above their is this element of "pureness" being dirtied by the black sexual beast. For example AV actresses who do porn with black guys are usually considered at the end of their career and willing to do anything. This isn't true for ALL but it is for the majority who star in them - with some completely refusing regardless. Same in the states, some porn actresses won't fuck black guys because of the same reasons.

There are two things I hate about cuckold stories:
- it's often organized by the husband, and I'm not into that at all.

I think this is why a lot of people didn't like Marina, and I totally understand that. Personally I liked Marina for this reason but at the same time I was also annoyed by it. I LIKED that it was the husbands fantasy - but I thought he had too much control picking the guys for marina.

BUT this is often how many swingers begin, with things changing and is something I explore in my sequel.
 
What I find interesting is how different it is between cuckold and NTR. Cuckold seems tailored more to Western taste (?), I've watched western cuckold porn. I honestly can't enjoy it and can't understand why people like to imagine eating other man's cum. It seems so gay, lol.

I've finished playing Nanahayo albeit with few routes left. It's awesome, in the same level as NTRPG2. I honestly can't decide which one is better. Maybe NTRPG2 is slightly better since there is no RPG mechanic in that game. The only problem of Nanahayo that I've stated before is it's so damn long! When i finished 1st route my game time is 30 hours. I didn't skim through the text, but I did use password that unlock high level for characters and powerful technique to one-hit kill your enemies. If you want to play it, i totally recommend go that route. The enemies are hard to kill, can give you status effects like poison, stun, etc and to level up you need to spend so much time.

Prologue
MC is captured and forced to live in Beriente with his wife Yuraha and daughter Seriha. The city has iron rules, separating men and women, they can't live together. Men are forced to work either as city guard (high class) or monster elimination squad (low class). Women work either as prostitute or work in farm where they are forced to work until they die without outside contact. MC is tasked to eliminate monster in dungeons, he is permitted to bring either Yuraha or Seriha to accompany him in battle. Who you choose will determine which route the game will follow. If you succeed all your missions, you and the family will be free to go. One of them must stay in the city as hostage to prevent them from escaping. There are some challenges you have to accomplished, faling to do so will incure consequences and will change the outcome of the game.

The story is well written, many mysteries i haven't gotten the answer yet maybe because i only finished 2 routes. MC is left oblivious until much later in the game. Sometimes the POV is switched to the heroine for the player to see what happens behind MC's back. The "challenges" are very good because you're given option to prevent "stuff" from happening. Some of the challenges are hard, few are easy.

Since i don't particularly like loli, I find it hard to choose Seriha route. Seeing your loli daughter in bleak dystopian city is not exactly pleasant. I love her character though. I wish there's option to turn off enemies encounter, especially if I've finished the game. Battles especially later in the game are simply too hard, it's like the author want to punish us to want to rescue MC's family.
No voice in the game. Many of the CGs are recycled from same picture but the author use zooming, bluring the images so you won't notice it. Women model in the game a bit too same-y, only different body, hair color.

I totally recommend this game if you have time to spare. avoid enemies at all times. Enter the dungeon, kill the boss, pick up items when you can. Use the password
Password
Code:
71502

can i get the sadpanda link for NTRPG2 and this game? Thanks

Alright I am assuming you are talking about Please Bang My Wife and not Hoka no Otoko 3. If that is so I tried confirming your issue but sadly didn't find any problems. I can save just fine. Here is a screenshot of my own copy saving without much trouble.

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I do get weird characters instead of legible English but that is a problem from MangaGamer's end as a lot of their customers complained the same. Not sure what the solution for that is but the game runs just fine even with that issue.

As far as how to save, there are 2 ways of doing that. One is from the interface at the bottom like in the screenshot here.

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The other when you don't have a interface like above and just a big script running on the screen filled with dialogues. In that case just right click on the screen and you will get this interface below.

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That is it. Game should save in both instances without issues. Hope it helps.

Regards,
LP

PS: Send me a PM next time if you need technical help. This thread is for NTR discussion, not for gaming support. Would hate for this thread to get locked because we took the discussion somewhere else entirely. :)

Thanks. I figured out the problem. It seems i can only save the game i run it in administrator mode.
 
I'm finding games or mangas that have simmilar plot as this manga,bad end or happy end are fine

[Takenoko Seijin] Te to Te Tsunaide | When you let go of my hands
https://exhentai.org/g/300663/1875a13e5b/?p=1

Any recomment ?
Heh, I uploaded it there after doing (sligthly amateurish) decensoring, and it is still racking me enough points to download everything what I want from sadpanda.

My personal recommendation:
[Inomaru] Itazura Senyou Hanahira Seitokaichou
https://exhentai.org/g/362209/e3e02e7fa3/
(for a girl with a strong personality, who even after being ntr-ed can maintain some of her dignity)

For more ntr mangas with childhood friends you can try almost everything by Carn, Tanaka Aiji, some of Yuzuki N Dash works, or just use search engine with "netorare defloration story".
 
There are two things I hate about cuckold stories:
- it's often organized by the husband, and I'm not into that at all.
- what is the thing with these black dudes, no really?


Really? It's way better than what I thought then.

Yeah i totally get you, the main difference between ntr and cuckold is the willingness of the man getting ntred/cuckolded, in cuckold they are mor eor less fully aware of it, are completely m and submisive, and enjoy it. For a sadist like me that wants to see them suffer it isn't really erotic.
 
Heh, I uploaded it there after doing (sligthly amateurish) decensoring, and it is still racking me enough points to download everything what I want from sadpanda.

My personal recommendation:
[Inomaru] Itazura Senyou Hanahira Seitokaichou
https://exhentai.org/g/362209/e3e02e7fa3/
(for a girl with a strong personality, who even after being ntr-ed can maintain some of her dignity)

For more ntr mangas with childhood friends you can try almost everything by Carn, Tanaka Aiji, some of Yuzuki N Dash works, or just use search engine with "netorare defloration story".


Thanks for your advices

Anyways,hard to find the simmilar manga such as
a stupid coward dishonest MC who cannot confess to the girl he love so the girl end up with some bad guys.
Not by froce or black mail(at least at first).
 
Really? It's way better than what I thought then.
You have to read all of the text without skimming through it. The story and progression of heroines what makes it so great.

Things i love about the game
1. Even from the prologue, you kinda get what theme the game is trying to deliver. First you have to let innocent family to be killed simply because they know about the existence of your village. While you look away, your trash partner kills the father, son, and raping the mother. The city knows about your hidden village anyway and march the soldiers to the village. While you and Village rebel force are away doing mission to distract the City force, your family and other villagers are captured. You rush to your family only to see the women of the village are raped by City force. Your wife, Yuraha sacrifices herself for other women including her daughter. She is drugged and fondled by City soldiers. they try to make Yuraha admit that she wants it (btw the drug is experimental aphrodisiac, lol). Witnessing this from a far with binocular, you try to intervene. But your rebel force itself is divided between saving the villagers or saving themselves. Some of them are single without family. Some of them are also afraid that by intervening, they endanger their family in hostage. Hoping Yuraha alone can make for sacrifice. You intervene anyway but doing so most of villagers are killed and you and family are captured and taken back to Beriente.

2. Sacrifing others for your own happiness and avoiding things/not taking the matters in your hands only making it worse. This theme keeps recurring several times in the game. For example you have to fight in 4 colosseum. Winning or losing them will change the ending of the game. If you lose you have to present your most treasured thing, in this case Yuraha or your daughter Seriha to the winner. But it turns out your enemies are your former villagers that has been captured and turned into monster by experiment. You partially feel regret because it's because your intervention that they're killed/captured.
There's also flashback of your past life, how you've failed to do the right thing, making other people suffer instead. You as the character is a good person in conflict between duty and doing the right thing. When he tried to do both he actually make it worse. There's also other flashback of other character that'll reveal the mysteries about the world. sometimes you're also presented whether wasting time saving other people or hurrying to save your wife.

3. You can actually prevent some NTR scene from happening. Like i said above, you can waste time saving other people but in doing so you'll trigger the NTR flag. I still don't know whether all of NTR scene can be prevented though. There's also scene in dungeon where your wife is trapped with a villain and you have to figure out the password of the door.

4. The progression of the heroine and NTR scene progression. I love it when they show you what happen to the heroine while you try to progress in the dungeon. Like after several room progression you'll be presented what's happening on the other side (it doesn't happen every dungeon though). Also when you're separated from your wife in the dungeon, you get glimpse of what happen to your wife bit by bit. I also love it that in the late game your wife clearly shows different act toward you. She's in doubt whether getting away from the city is the best or simply staying and enjoying what she clearly likes, especially after certain arc.

I'll agree internet cuckold porn is another beast in itself and the mainstream crap that is produced - honestly doesnt understand the whole fetish itself I think. A couple years back the US porn industry realized that amateur porn featuring wives was a big thing - but as they understood it "guys get off watching his wife with other men, but only wimps would do that. So he must be a wussy who eats cum from his wives snatch because really he's actually gay! Why? Again because what dude would let another man fuck his wife?!"
But there's also several amateur videos i see that shows the husband is forced giving blowjob to the "bull". it doesn't seem fake to me but yeah everyone's taste is different lol.

can i get the sadpanda link for NTRPG2 and this game? Thanks



Thanks. I figured out the problem. It seems i can only save the game i run it in administrator mode.

There is no CG in NTRPG2 only pixel based sex.

Nanahayo CG
https://exhentai.org/g/783818/54f60ab6b5/
 
There are two things I hate about cuckold stories:
- it's often organized by the husband, and I'm not into that at all.
- what is the thing with these black dudes, no really?

I agree. I'm not a fan of the husband organizing things. That's a really let down for me in terms of cuckold and netorase. I'm not into them at all.

I also don't enjoy in netorare when the loser husband gives up on his wife and starts to fap seeing his wife being fucked by another dude. That totally destroys the netorare vibe for me.

And I don't know what's the deal with black dudes either.
 
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To clarify I was making a general statement that the fantasy of "wive sharing" in WHATEVER form be it NTR, cuckold, swining, ect is simply accepted now AS a popular fantasy in a general sense - rather its not unheard of, right? I felt Marina trilogy was punishing Kenji for having this fantasy as abnormal - but all fantasies in that sense could be abnormal then if its anything beyond missionary position.

Really it wasn't about the fact that Kenji did share Marina - but rather that the games story seemed to be saying that this fantasy - real or not is a bad one and only abnormal people could fantasize about.

Honestly I've never met a normal person anyway...I don't think I'd want to. We are all fucked up in our own way, what you might call normal might not be normal at all to the next person. When it comes to Japan, man from my experience its about as sexually abnormal for many people.

That said women, especially ones deeply in love with their partner will often do almost anything to please them and I expect that many wives or gf's are more willing to try it beyond fantasy then their husbands might suspect or be comfortable with haha. Of course I'm making a generalization but we are talking about fantasy vs reality here.

From my experience most women don't mind engaging in fantasy play, often energetically - but reality is another matter - but having fantasies is not. I guess to some degree it was almost like TEAM NTR is saying this is a bad fantasy that you shouldn't have or else...and THAT annoyed me because it dictates from a very narrow point of view what you can fantasize about as "normal". Its almost like their trying to protect their "definition" of NTR, as having bad consequences and you should avoid having such thoughts lol.

Which is ironically counterproductive from a sales point of view since its their bread and butter :P

I can see where you're coming from, but there are fantasies you can casually bring up with any girl and some you will want to know the girl veeeeeery well before you try broaching, and only if you're all but convinced she won't take it badly, even if she rejects it.
For example you wouldn't have much risk in proposing for your partner to wear a certain outfit during sex, schoolgirl, maid, bunnygirl, etc, and maybe act out a small play? Only the most prudish women would take offense at that idea, many would be fine with it, some might find it funny even if they're not making fun of you for it. But there's little chance of you being called a sick pervert and her breaking up with you.
On the other hand if you brought up a fantasy following an extreme fetish, such as bestiality fir example, let alone finding a woman willing to do it, even revealing that you have such a fetish/fantasy, can damage your relationship and cause a woman to think less of you.
Netorare probably can't be compared to something as extreme as bestiality or the like (though many of the haters on H galleries and forums seem to believe it's even worse), but it is something can be emotionally complicated. Especially if you live in a culture that sees monogomy as the only kind of decent relationship, marriage as sacred and a woman who sleeps with any man other than her partner as a slut. And even if the culture doesn't take a hard line with these things, they are still common views and the majority (the so-called standard of normal) sees that kind of relationship as normal and any kind of open relationship where one or both people have sex with others as abnormal.
Plus as is covered in a lot of netorase scenarios, the woman might feel you can't really love her if you happy with her having sex with other men. Since she wouldn't be okay with you sleeping with other women and men are traditionally prone to be possessive and jealous of the woman in their lives, ergo, are you really in love with her? Plus depending on society and such, she may be afraid of what other people will think if they find out. Since it's not uncommon in western society for a woman who admits to being willing to have casual sex for fun to be called a slut and face condemnation and abuse over it, many women would fear the same.
Well, long story short most of modern western society embraces the view that a monogomous, faithful relationship is the ideal, and is "normal" and "natural" and while many plays and fetishes that just involved you and your partner can be considered and even accepted with certain limits without much danger of a backlash, a sexual fantasy that involves other people is usually seen as violating that "common sense".
There might have been a period starting with free love in the sixties and when swinging became a fad in the seventies when people forgot that common sense and didn't worry as much, but society seems to have had a rebound since then. On an individual level, people can still be open minded and willing to accept all kinds of things, as a culture the pressure of the majority view seems to always hold sway.

Also, I didn't feel like team.ntr was sending a message that NTR is bad and something you should be ashamed of. Almost everything in those games is a result of their writer, who is known to have the fetish himself and has hints he may have tried netorase in real life, and may be putting a lot of his own fantasies and some of his own experiences into the games.
I think the message wasn't that the guy having the fetish was wrong, so much as having the fetish and pushing it onto your partner when they don't have any interest in it and are only doing it to please you, isn't good and may damage your relationship.
Well, I tend to feel that if you want to have a real relationship involving NTR, it really has to be shared by both parties. Not only you getting turned on by your girlfriend/wife having sex with someone else, but the girl finding it exciting. Though I could only see it working for me if she was specifically turned on by not only cheating but also by you knowing about it and you being turned on by it as well. If a woman just wants a free license to go off and fuck guys whenever she feels like it without caring whether you are happy or not, I'd find that an unpleasantly one sided relationship and wouldn't want to be in it. Having an NTR fetish and having no self-respect are two different things.
 
Heh, I uploaded it there after doing (sligthly amateurish) decensoring, and it is still racking me enough points to download everything what I want from sadpanda.

My personal recommendation:
[Inomaru] Itazura Senyou Hanahira Seitokaichou
https://exhentai.org/g/362209/e3e02e7fa3/
(for a girl with a strong personality, who even after being ntr-ed can maintain some of her dignity)

For more ntr mangas with childhood friends you can try almost everything by Carn, Tanaka Aiji, some of Yuzuki N Dash works, or just use search engine with "netorare defloration story".

I really like Itazura the art is godly but too bad it doesn't have a bad ending =/ sugestions of ntr mangas like this one with woman of strong personality are welcome xD
 
You have to read all of the text without skimming through it. The story and progression of heroines what makes it so great.

Things i love about the game
1. Even from the prologue, you kinda get what theme the game is trying to deliver. First you have to let innocent family to be killed simply because they know about the existence of your village. While you look away, your trash partner kills the father, son, and raping the mother. The city knows about your hidden village anyway and march the soldiers to the village. While you and Village rebel force are away doing mission to distract the City force, your family and other villagers are captured. You rush to your family only to see the women of the village are raped by City force. Your wife, Yuraha sacrifices herself for other women including her daughter. She is drugged and fondled by City soldiers. they try to make Yuraha admit that she wants it (btw the drug is experimental aphrodisiac, lol). Witnessing this from a far with binocular, you try to intervene. But your rebel force itself is divided between saving the villagers or saving themselves. Some of them are single without family. Some of them are also afraid that by intervening, they endanger their family in hostage. Hoping Yuraha alone can make for sacrifice. You intervene anyway but doing so most of villagers are killed and you and family are captured and taken back to Beriente.

2. Sacrifing others for your own happiness and avoiding things/not taking the matters in your hands only making it worse. This theme keeps recurring several times in the game. For example you have to fight in 4 colosseum. Winning or losing them will change the ending of the game. If you lose you have to present your most treasured thing, in this case Yuraha or your daughter Seriha to the winner. But it turns out your enemies are your former villagers that has been captured and turned into monster by experiment. You partially feel regret because it's because your intervention that they're killed/captured.
There's also flashback of your past life, how you've failed to do the right thing, making other people suffer instead. You as the character is a good person in conflict between duty and doing the right thing. When he tried to do both he actually make it worse. There's also other flashback of other character that'll reveal the mysteries about the world. sometimes you're also presented whether wasting time saving other people or hurrying to save your wife.

3. You can actually prevent some NTR scene from happening. Like i said above, you can waste time saving other people but in doing so you'll trigger the NTR flag. I still don't know whether all of NTR scene can be prevented though. There's also scene in dungeon where your wife is trapped with a villain and you have to figure out the password of the door.

4. The progression of the heroine and NTR scene progression. I love it when they show you what happen to the heroine while you try to progress in the dungeon. Like after several room progression you'll be presented what's happening on the other side (it doesn't happen every dungeon though). Also when you're separated from your wife in the dungeon, you get glimpse of what happen to your wife bit by bit. I also love it that in the late game your wife clearly shows different act toward you. She's in doubt whether getting away from the city is the best or simply staying and enjoying what she clearly likes, especially after certain arc.


But there's also several amateur videos i see that shows the husband is forced giving blowjob to the "bull". it doesn't seem fake to me but yeah everyone's taste is different lol.



There is no CG in NTRPG2 only pixel based sex.

Nanahayo CG
https://exhentai.org/g/783818/54f60ab6b5/

Thank you for this.
 
I'm finding games or mangas that have simmilar plot as this manga,bad end or happy end are fine

[Takenoko Seijin] Te to Te Tsunaide | When you let go of my hands
https://exhentai.org/g/300663/1875a13e5b/?p=1

Any recomment ?

You can check:
- [SS-brain],
- * [Crazy9 (Ichitaka)] Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu,
- [Flieger(Ten)] Yamato Nadeshiko.
- *!!![MASHIRA-DOU (Mashiraga Aki)] Story of the 'N' Situation - Situation#2 Kokoro Utsuri,

They have similar points with the story you mentioned. (Beta male student, do not have courage to tell his crush how he love her and then...)

You must checked these authors too MASHIRA-DOU (Mashiraga Aki), MTSP, Xration ...
For realistic stories and strong emotion, I strongly recommend you read all stories of MASHIRA-DOU (Mashiraga Aki). It's gem and some stories did not translated by any groups because it's too sad (or there are too many vanilla fans outside here).
 
Mashiraga's doujins are more difficult because they need more redrawing compared to the usual doujins where you just need to clean most of the times.

Think of Mashiraga as the Gantz of hentai doujins.
 
You can check:
- [SS-brain],
- * [Crazy9 (Ichitaka)] Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu,
- [Flieger(Ten)] Yamato Nadeshiko.
- *!!![MASHIRA-DOU (Mashiraga Aki)] Story of the 'N' Situation - Situation#2 Kokoro Utsuri,

They have similar points with the story you mentioned. (Beta male student, do not have courage to tell his crush how he love her and then...)

You must checked these authors too MASHIRA-DOU (Mashiraga Aki), MTSP, Xration ...
For realistic stories and strong emotion, I strongly recommend you read all stories of MASHIRA-DOU (Mashiraga Aki). It's gem and some stories did not translated by any groups because it's too sad (or there are too many vanilla fans outside here).

Thaks there are some interesting mangas that i never read before.
 
I wonder whether any ANIM games, particularly the kabe series and the Marina series will be officially released in English.


Also can i get the link/name of this NTR manga i read a while back. It has a couple of chapters. If i recall the husband and wife move into a new apartment complex. Husband however has to work outstation for a period of time due to his job. Wife fucks neighbor/some guy and they keep on continuing. Eventually their apartment becomes like this orgy place where other people come and fuck. The series ends with a cliffhanger, wife getting fucked on the floor while husband opens the door and she say something along the lines of I'm sorry dear.

There's another series also i'm looking for where the girlfriend goes to Tokyo to study in university. Bf couldn't make due his low results. She and the ugly professor eventually start doing. Bf comes to visit her, they fuck but she can't even feel him. It ends with him seeing on skype or getting a video of them having sex. The bf is shocked and is crying.
 
I wonder whether any ANIM games, particularly the kabe series and the Marina series will be officially released in English.

In the near future? No. Why? Because Japan is anal about censoring. They are one of the most fucked up version of humanity when it comes to porn but they won't bend on their censoring policy. They even criminally penalized a lot of their own because their work did not have appropriate mosaic. So what does this have to do with localization? Two things. First, Japanese VN don't have enough fan following to warrant a solid investment. Only a handful of companies like JAST, MangaGamer etc. have taken the initiative but even they pick titles cautiously and serious NTR is one of the rarest genres. In-fact "Please Bang my Wife" is the only title that comes to my mind that has a streaming NTR theme from start to beginning with a English localization. Even fan works don't seriously target this genre.

In the far future? Sure, why not? I mean lets face it, even Steam is now endorsing visual novels. That is a game changer. A lot of Japanese companies will seriously consider the western market through Steam. This will give other companies and fan groups to target other games that Steam wouldn't pick, like a lot of extreme genre of eroge.

The only issue that comes to my mind is the problem of "reverse importing". We were once very close to having uncensored Japanese hentais couple of years back with Japanese companies actively partnering with western firms. But then Japanese consumers went, "OMG uncensored version! Me Want!". That effectively collapsed the Japanese censored products market with the influx of uncensored products. And since the companies couldn't challenge the Japanese mosaic law, they killed the initiative itself to keep the local market alive. This is what I fear might happen to visual novels as well. Oh well. Let's see.
 
The only issue that comes to my mind is the problem of "reverse importing".

Don't forget the rapelay incident, if localization become mainstream, at some point someone will complain loud enough to make some scandal explode.

Regarding "reverse importing" fakku get away with it by blocking Japaneses IP, not so many people use VPN.
 
To the guys asking for shota NTR in this thread a while back, it's not a game but "[EBA] Forbidden Fruit" manga has a couple chapters
 
Happy New Year, Brothers!

Been busy, but finally delved into Iroyoridori. Another great game from one of the leaders in NTR, and that's coming from someone that frequently dislikes a lot of the elements Jinsei games are built around(hetare profags, school-aged characters, lack of romantic relationship between the main couple) but the circle does all of the little things right 95% of the time, and that's worth experiencing. Also, they are amazing at moral degeneration/corruption.

This time around, things are a bit lighter than before in some respects. The antagonist is a complete dudebro, and I loved him. If not for the fact that the profag is such a loser, he could easily be his actual buddy. I don't personally care for the protag, but that's typical for me in Jinsei games(the one from Honto no Kimochi was the only one even halfway decent) and it's not to say he's poorly written or anything, I just don't like weak-willed, indecisive pussies that only act masculine in the wrong instances.

There's a happy end, so folks looking for that can enjoy before or after they delve into the worse stuff. Unfortunately, there's very little mystery this time around. Even without the girl's perspectives, the profag witnesses most of what is going on(the only really important thing he misses is how Dudebro seduces the main girl, Mizuki)through videos or reading the Dudebro's conquest blog, and already knows exactly what kind of guy he is, having seen him 'steal' other friends and acquaintances at the school.

The circle is always improving; this time they do a very good job of showing the girls fall more realistically/less extremely. Dudebro is just a handsome, smooth-talker that is great at sex, and he makes the girls he seduces love sex, too. There aren't radical changes like in some of the previous games(though, you know me, I'm a bastard and love that shit), the girls start the game being sweet, kind-hearted, and lively, and end the game being sweet, kind-hearted, and lively while loving sex and Dudebro. Mizuki is a wonderful character and it's a treat to watch her turn sex-crazy. And it's a nice change from the usual tanned, tatted, drug-using turbo slut(but, of course, I love that, too).

This one won't be for everyone here, but give it a shot and I hope you won't be disappointed. I care most about the girls in these games, so I quite enjoyed it.

As an aside, Kabe 2 was not well-received by some here, but I enjoyed it thoroughly. Different strokes for different folks, so I'll avoid getting into a debate, but you should try it if you're interested. Anim has great production values if nothing else, and there are some amazing scenes in it. Kedamono is good stuff, as well, but definitely not to everyone's taste.

I may or may not be sorta dating a married, 40-year-old Japanese woman at the moment. >.>
 
You bastard!!
So is it just coincidence or you have netori fetish bastard? lol
Well, at least japanese women even in their 40s still taking care of their body unlike in my country where after they get married they usually become fat piggy lol..
 
Don't forget the rapelay incident, if localization become mainstream, at some point someone will complain loud enough to make some scandal explode.

Regarding "reverse importing" fakku get away with it by blocking Japaneses IP, not so many people use VPN.

I don't think that will be a problem, there are already lots of people screaming about games but we still get new GTAs, things like Hatred or even The Last of Us (strong insinuation of pedo rape plus canibalism, maybe necrophilia), and i am sure there are other really harcore games, i think it will be fine as long as they are marketed as adult products.
 
Happy New Year, Brothers!

Been busy, but finally delved into Iroyoridori. Another great game from one of the leaders in NTR, and that's coming from someone that frequently dislikes a lot of the elements Jinsei games are built around(hetare profags, school-aged characters, lack of romantic relationship between the main couple) but the circle does all of the little things right 95% of the time, and that's worth experiencing. Also, they are amazing at moral degeneration/corruption.

This time around, things are a bit lighter than before in some respects. The antagonist is a complete dudebro, and I loved him. If not for the fact that the profag is such a loser, he could easily be his actual buddy. I don't personally care for the protag, but that's typical for me in Jinsei games(the one from Honto no Kimochi was the only one even halfway decent) and it's not to say he's poorly written or anything, I just don't like weak-willed, indecisive pussies that only act masculine in the wrong instances.

There's a happy end, so folks looking for that can enjoy before or after they delve into the worse stuff. Unfortunately, there's very little mystery this time around. Even without the girl's perspectives, the profag witnesses most of what is going on(the only really important thing he misses is how Dudebro seduces the main girl, Mizuki)through videos or reading the Dudebro's conquest blog, and already knows exactly what kind of guy he is, having seen him 'steal' other friends and acquaintances at the school.

The circle is always improving; this time they do a very good job of showing the girls fall more realistically/less extremely. Dudebro is just a handsome, smooth-talker that is great at sex, and he makes the girls he seduces love sex, too. There aren't radical changes like in some of the previous games(though, you know me, I'm a bastard and love that shit), the girls start the game being sweet, kind-hearted, and lively, and end the game being sweet, kind-hearted, and lively while loving sex and Dudebro. Mizuki is a wonderful character and it's a treat to watch her turn sex-crazy. And it's a nice change from the usual tanned, tatted, drug-using turbo slut(but, of course, I love that, too).

This one won't be for everyone here, but give it a shot and I hope you won't be disappointed. I care most about the girls in these games, so I quite enjoyed it.

As an aside, Kabe 2 was not well-received by some here, but I enjoyed it thoroughly. Different strokes for different folks, so I'll avoid getting into a debate, but you should try it if you're interested. Anim has great production values if nothing else, and there are some amazing scenes in it. Kedamono is good stuff, as well, but definitely not to everyone's taste.

I may or may not be sorta dating a married, 40-year-old Japanese woman at the moment. >.>

Bro... you bastard hahaha.
 

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