Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

So after playing netorase kanojo. I must agree with you guys. The story is rushed. Especially in ending, so rushed that make me says "eh...,just that?" I've seen almost similar story in hoka no otoko haramu series, and that one have better way to closing the story. I give 7/10. If only this game is longer. And please team ntr. Make a married couples for team ntr works :D
 
yes mate, anim never disappoint so far, the slow burn on wife pov is fantastic in this one, heck i think this might have surpassed chichi no futoi yubi one for me, and that game was my favourite.

I wished it had a route similar to chichi no futoi yubi, where the protfag concedes his wife to his dad.
Other than that, the game is fucking gold. :bigeyes:, there's so much mystery in all 3 routes.
Also, I couldn't stop laughing when the protfag keeps looking at Daniel's picture.
 
So I know I'm late to the party and have been AFK for a few months, but just after I announced my fan sequel to the Marina series I ended up being evicted and had to move. This turned into a series of misfortune events including ending up in the hospital the same month with a serious case of pneumonia that developed indirectly from contact with black mold. I basically lost my health and house in the same month. Regardless I know you don't care about that but I didn't want to re-assure everybody that the project didn't die before I did lol.

Whats ironic is I also just learned that Marina is officially being translated by mangagamer, something I'm happy to see although I'm doubtful they plan to bring the entire series over but you never know.

Regardless I plan to return to my sequel now that my life has resettled.

In regards to mangagamer I AM concerned that they have already botched the translation of the game "Marina's Cuckolding Report, case of the sensitive wife and great fuck college student" - which is not only wrong but fucks up continuity issues within the series. It SHOULD be ""Marina's Cuckolding Report, case of the sensitive wife and college student of endless/unequal/bountiful energy/stamina".

He was not a great fuck, he was inexperienced and only ok when they started - however he had a TON of energy and stamina as a college student would have. The porn guy from the second game WAS a great fuck based on skill.

So this makes me wonder just how spot on this translation will be...if its playing lose with the english language as it appears to be then we might be getting "another" version of the Marina series lol. Which considering I just finished reading the official novelization published on amazon kindle ..would make this 3rd retelling of the first game. Yes the basic story remains the same, but at least in the japanese versions they have been slightly different too.

Regardless of all that I do plan to go forward on my fan sequel. I'm undecided if I will change the first sentence of the title to reflect the english version (to Marina's cuckolding report) so mine would be "Marina's cuckolding report 4". However I might stick with my original revision which was "The Sharing of Marina, Case of..." so it can stand on its own as was always intended before it was officially translated.

YES I'm aware that I originally changed the title too from its originally meaning (especially as Marina does "report" back her adventures to Kenji) but this was also to reflect that my game is more a mystery game rather then a "report" from Marina. Hence the change.

I LIKE how "Marina's Cuckolding Report" sounds and initially I planned to use it - but thinking back over it I might stick with my original idea of "Sharing of Marina".

As of now officially my game is entitled (and revealed to be) ""The Sharing of Marina, Case of the Queen"

Yes in this case my title has many meanings.

Really the title depends on if I want it to stand on its own or not...it IS a sequel but I'm not sure how Mangagamer will respond of i I use the official title in my game title too.
 
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Just finished playing Kashidashi kanojo. I mostly agree with other's post about how rushed the game is. It's especially felt off after 2nd scene. It's like suddenly Shiori changes personality. Heroine art design and VA also not to my taste. the plot is generally good but the execution sucks. I find this game very lacking especially considering how great Marina is.

Hearing how great new Anim game, I regret playing Hatsu Uso and Kashidashi Kanojo since I have no energy left, lol..
 
Mmmmm,i am starting to think buyers should just email Mangagamer asking if they could change the name since its really dividing people xD, since there is still no official release date maybe there is still time, who knows?
 
So I know I'm late to the party and have been AFK for a few months, but just after I announced my fan sequel to the Marina series I ended up being evicted and had to move. This turned into a series of misfortune events including ending up in the hospital the same month with a serious case of pneumonia that developed indirectly from contact with black mold. I basically lost my health and house in the same month. Regardless I know you don't care about that but I didn't want to re-assure everybody that the project didn't die before I did lol.

Whats ironic is I also just learned that Marina is officially being translated by mangagamer, something I'm happy to see although I'm doubtful they plan to bring the entire series over but you never know.

Regardless I plan to return to my sequel now that my life has resettled.

In regards to mangagamer I AM concerned that they have already botched the translation of the game "Marina's Cuckolding Report, case of the sensitive wife and great fuck college student" - which is not only wrong but fucks up continuity issues within the series. It SHOULD be ""Marina's Cuckolding Report, case of the sensitive wife and college student of endless/unequal/bountiful energy/stamina".

He was not a great fuck, he was inexperienced and only ok when they started - however he had a TON of energy and stamina as a college student would have. The porn guy from the second game WAS a great fuck based on skill.

So this makes me wonder just how spot on this translation will be...if its playing lose with the english language as it appears to be then we might be getting "another" version of the Marina series lol. Which considering I just finished reading the official novelization published on amazon kindle ..would make this 3rd retelling of the first game. Yes the basic story remains the same, but at least in the japanese versions they have been slightly different too.

Regardless of all that I do plan to go forward on my fan sequel. I'm undecided if I will change the first sentence of the title to reflect the english version (to Marina's cuckolding report) so mine would be "Marina's cuckolding report 4". However I might stick with my original revision which was "The Sharing of Marina, Case of..." so it can stand on its own as was always intended before it was officially translated.

YES I'm aware that I originally changed the title too from its originally meaning (especially as Marina does "report" back her adventures to Kenji) but this was also to reflect that my game is more a mystery game rather then a "report" from Marina. Hence the change.

I LIKE how "Marina's Cuckolding Report" sounds and initially I planned to use it - but thinking back over it I might stick with my original idea of "Sharing of Marina".

As of now officially my game is entitled (and revealed to be) ""The Sharing of Marina, Case of the Queen"

Yes in this case my title has many meanings.

Really the title depends on if I want it to stand on its own or not...it IS a sequel but I'm not sure how Mangagamer will respond of i I use the official title in my game title too.

Aw sorry to hear what happened to you. Glad you already settle this. Hope you can end the project without problema anymore. And you right about Marina's subtitle from mangagamer. Even Marina says Kenji has better skill on sex than Hiroto. So the subtitle sounds weird for the stories.
 
Aw sorry to hear what happened to you. Glad you already settle this. Hope you can end the project without problema anymore. And you right about Marina's subtitle from mangagamer. Even Marina says Kenji has better skill on sex than Hiroto. So the subtitle sounds weird for the stories.

Ya I've decided to stick to my original version of "Sharing Of Marina, Case of the Queen" first off I don't want to use the word cuckold and I also don't want to use mangagamers "version" of this translated title for my OWN game. Plus I feel the word "sharing" better represents the original japanese title.

Honestly while I'll certainly play the translated version, I have a bad feeling that its translation will will be a very text book english or a really bland/crude version as represented here. In this instance not realizing JUST how important the difference is between between a great fuck and "lots of stamina".

In the sense of sex, you can have a lot of stamina and be a horrible fuck. Plus the word fuck sounds really crude like they are trying to hard with the title to be "crude" and I'm wondering how this will bleed into the translation.

So the title translation of "great fuck" is a horrible mistake, however this might also a choice made by the publisher/mangergamer too, for attention sake.

After all Hiroto was NOT a great fuck, Marina even made fun of him for it in the second game when she actually found a "great fucker" in the porn star.

HOWEVER this also leads me to believe that this might be the only game planned for release - I mean unless the game sells like nuts which I kinda doubt considering how much of the NTR community disliked Marina due to is netorase themes I can't see why they would spend more resources on translating it.
 
You guys know if the fans who were translating the first Marina game have plans to translate the second game if Mangagamer drop it after the first ?

The second was my favourite, and I have the feeling that Mangagamer won't do it.
 
I'd like to state before you read on I'm more replying to overall topics in this thread rather to LonerPrime directly, rather I'm simply adding to the conversation overall.

Artilier Sakura isn't a creator of wordy games. They emphasize more on art so it appeals to a larger "Ctrl key fappers" as well.

I kinda disagree with this, the story of their games has a lot more meat then other fap style games though (like Miel titles) and add enough story content as to build the characters. So yes they aren't wordy but they do build story - also consider that for most of their games have u play the story once just to see the hentai scenes after.

Any sane person would go like, "WTF? why would you want your wife to fuck someone else then you stupid prick?

Maybe this is why I like the swinging genre too. You lead your wife into another man's cave while you take his wife to yours... only his wife goes back to her lover's cave while you keep waiting for your own wife to return. So does she return? If so, is she now going to that man on her own? Why is she going alone? A ton load of questions and a good story will have it all.

Anyways if you can't understand still, then you are definitely not meant for this genre. Everyone has a different point of view. Doesn't mean they are wrong, just different.


In general I'm surprised how much this forum is confused about why this fetish is so popular or misunderstands the word cuckold and basing it off what NTR is.

Now unlike "ntr" which is more Japanese based, wife sharing is VERY common fantasy for a lot of men in USA, Canada and Europe. Some of the top selling erotic books on amazon kindle deal with wife sharing. Hell you just have to go onto craigslist in any major US city into their casual encounters and couples looking for another guy to see how popular it is. You can even see it talked about in tv shows like the Simpsons!

Some people think it will be such a common fantasy by 2025 that many couples will have discussed it at once point, a lot of popular radio talk shows, magazines, online articles discussing love have also discussed how popular this fantasy has become in the US. Hell just look at pornhub for example to see how many couples have shared wives.

Now I can be totally wrong but this could be a culture thing, currently this fetish or fantasy is like 80% desired by white couples mostly in the USA, Canada and parts of europe. Those videos of amateur couples are 96% english speaking americans.

In direct reply to the above though, most couples that do swing or wife share don't worry about having their partner stolen away BECAUSE 80% of the couples that become involved in these lifestyles are incredibly secure in their relationships and often have better communication then "vanilla" couples. Thats not to say jealousy, humiliation and other feelings aren't involved - that her partner may BE a LOT better at sex then the husband - but I've never heard of a wife leaving her husband for another man involved in this lifestyle.

I'm sure it happens but usually that would involve deeper issues with the relationship.

Yea... netorare is straight edge knife that kills fast. Netorase is a bent one that hurts much more and kills slowly and a married setting only amplifies that hit. And you have no one else to blame but your own damn fetish. That was my point.
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Netorase can certainly unsettle a marriage based on the Japanese approach to this fetish (and it certainly IS a japanese approach) and that is IS a negative fantasy to have in their culture from they way they often portray it - even in the Marina series. She basically calls Kenji out on it in the third title as it being "wrong' for example.

However it is not a negative fantasy to have, it can actually be a very healthy fantasy within a secure loving relationship. Many swingers and wife sharing couples actually say it makes them feel closer to their husband/wife.

Whats ironic is the sheer amount of erotic fiction punishing or portraying these men as weak and have wives who eventually leave them - I find this ironic because this is in no way reflective real couples who have/do this fantasy.

There are a LOT of people who hate this fantasy too, but often I find the men who are the most vocally opposed (vs simply being turned off) tend to be incredible possessive or insecure men. Hence they tendency to lash out.

On that note, I feel part of the issue WITH the word cuckold is especially within american politics its become an insult for a "weak" man.

So I might know it from a sexual point of view but YOU might know it from a derogatory point of view - in essence completely changing its mean based on our points of view.

I think looking overall my responses here this all comes down to culture (netorase as shameful fantasy vs wife sharing as kinky fantasy) and the different ways we understand things between individuals.

The english language is considered one of the most complicated languages for a reason lol...
 
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[MENTION=106819]Yadoumi[/MENTION];

That would be my group and yes we HAD plans. We shelved them after the MangaGamer's announcement. But if they screw up or just drop it we are definitely picking up the series or at least I'll work on it for damn sure. For now we are working on something else so I am just gonna sit back and watch what kind of work MangaGamer is going to do.

[MENTION=30532]Tentacle Bandit[/MENTION];

For starters my comparison for story content is with studios like Elf or Team Bitters. Miel... I don't even... I don't have words. They are just making games for the lulz in my books. Yes Artiliter Sakura has story content but it is pale in comparison to their real competition. They have the art to back it up, I have no idea why they don't get serious with their words as well or maybe that is their limit? I mean the guy who wrote Marina ended up writing a Netori game even though he readily admitted he sucked at that genre. On the other hand some other guy wrote Kashidashi Kanojo who practically ripped Marina's art here and there and if folks here are to be believed screwed up the story's pace as well. What is going on with Team NTR's Editorial department?

For folks who dislike Netorase, I just believe they do so because they like their own "Netori" or "Netorare" thing. To be dead honest I personally hate Netorare. Yea I do. I hate seeing a guy get ripped apart for no fault of his because some guy wanted his girl. I mean if he cheated then yea all bet are off, but just because he wasn't there doesn't justify the snatch in my books. Yet people find pleasure watching a wrecked guy. I can't understand it either but I don't really question their likings. Everyone is wired differently and I just leave it at that. I am more netorase oriented where every character involved is in the loop and not some deer caught in the headlights. If shit goes south, you asked for it.

I think you missed my cuckoldry vs netorase post. As you said, Japanese approach to this issue is very different. Kenji lives in hell because he wanted this. This is the very reason the third game got that ending that pissed me off. All throughout the series Team NTR puts Netorase down subtly like some sick fantasy. Hints are dropped here and there and that is what I was getting at with my bent knife example. Netorase, unlike cuckoldry isn't straight forward. I sincerely hope MangaGamer stays true to the original Japanese script. Hell I practically dare them not to try and repaint the story for the English audience. This is not a western cuckoldry, this is eastern netorase.
 
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So... is the crack for Anim game is not available yet? :D

From a few posts earlier: http://www.anime-sharing.com/forum/...ssion-thread-44653/index1195.html#post2718267

There's only a mikocon crack available in the private VIP section. So not easily accessible :(. Seeing as the mikocon crack is playable but not 100% good. maybe it will be better to wait to get the best experience. I mean it came within a week of release and considering, Kabe no Mukou no Tsuma no Koe 2 came out months after. It's great news regardless, so possible it will be out soon.

But yeah, I am in the same boat. Looking at the cg and always making my own imaginations out of it. I can't wait to play it either. I mean if that "okay" crack from mikocon somehow makes it out, I will be a first to download it LOL.
 
[Haitoku Sensei] Netorare Mousou Syndrome ~Kouhen~

is it his delusion again or she was really cheating on him?

...any idea?

It's one of those ambiguous endings. At the end of it all, he wakes up at the couch and we get the whole "it was all a dream sequence" and the husband feels terribly bad about having these thoughts, then there is a dialog between husband and wife about what happened that night (her friend later realized he had lost his earring and they had trouble finding it w/o waking up the husband) that's overshadowed by the husband's internal dialogue. When he looks at the mirror he internalizes she said that they ended up finding the earring under their bed. Which obviously raises the questions: when did he go in their bedroom and why did the earring fall off.
 
From a few posts earlier: http://www.anime-sharing.com/forum/...ssion-thread-44653/index1195.html#post2718267

There's only a mikocon crack available in the private VIP section. So not easily accessible :(. Seeing as the mikocon crack is playable but not 100% good. maybe it will be better to wait to get the best experience. I mean it came within a week of release and considering, Kabe no Mukou no Tsuma no Koe 2 came out months after. It's great news regardless, so possible it will be out soon.

But yeah, I am in the same boat. Looking at the cg and always making my own imaginations out of it. I can't wait to play it either. I mean if that "okay" crack from mikocon somehow makes it out, I will be a first to download it LOL.

Thank you for the info. I did read about mikocon crack and wasn't sure whether it was avail for everyone... too bad. :(
 
[Haitoku Sensei] Netorare Mousou Syndrome ~Kouhen~

is it his delusion again or she was really cheating on him?

...any idea?

I think it is a very well told story. I guess there is no hard proof but...

It is real. She noticed during sex that her husband was watching. And he passed out after they were done with his mess left at the door which they probably figured out what he was doing outside of the door. He wakes up next to the couch, not the bed. This means that they moved him and they could have moved to the bed but chose not to, probably because they used the bed further more for themselves. There was no reason for her to tell him about the earring but she does. She knew that he would know what that mean and that is exactly why she told him. It may seem to be an open end but it really is not. I think he saw her very first cheating and all the things that he imagined in the first is just imagination.

So I know I'm late to the party and have been AFK for a few months, but just after I announced my fan sequel to the Marina series I ended up being evicted and had to move. This turned into a series of misfortune events including ending up in the hospital the same month with a serious case of pneumonia that developed indirectly from contact with black mold. I basically lost my health and house in the same month. Regardless I know you don't care about that but I didn't want to re-assure everybody that the project didn't die before I did lol.

Whats ironic is I also just learned that Marina is officially being translated by mangagamer, something I'm happy to see although I'm doubtful they plan to bring the entire series over but you never know.

Regardless I plan to return to my sequel now that my life has resettled.

In regards to mangagamer I AM concerned that they have already botched the translation of the game "Marina's Cuckolding Report, case of the sensitive wife and great fuck college student" - which is not only wrong but fucks up continuity issues within the series. It SHOULD be ""Marina's Cuckolding Report, case of the sensitive wife and college student of endless/unequal/bountiful energy/stamina".

He was not a great fuck, he was inexperienced and only ok when they started - however he had a TON of energy and stamina as a college student would have. The porn guy from the second game WAS a great fuck based on skill.

So this makes me wonder just how spot on this translation will be...if its playing lose with the english language as it appears to be then we might be getting "another" version of the Marina series lol. Which considering I just finished reading the official novelization published on amazon kindle ..would make this 3rd retelling of the first game. Yes the basic story remains the same, but at least in the japanese versions they have been slightly different too.

Regardless of all that I do plan to go forward on my fan sequel. I'm undecided if I will change the first sentence of the title to reflect the english version (to Marina's cuckolding report) so mine would be "Marina's cuckolding report 4". However I might stick with my original revision which was "The Sharing of Marina, Case of..." so it can stand on its own as was always intended before it was officially translated.

YES I'm aware that I originally changed the title too from its originally meaning (especially as Marina does "report" back her adventures to Kenji) but this was also to reflect that my game is more a mystery game rather then a "report" from Marina. Hence the change.

I LIKE how "Marina's Cuckolding Report" sounds and initially I planned to use it - but thinking back over it I might stick with my original idea of "Sharing of Marina".

As of now officially my game is entitled (and revealed to be) ""The Sharing of Marina, Case of the Queen"

Yes in this case my title has many meanings.

Really the title depends on if I want it to stand on its own or not...it IS a sequel but I'm not sure how Mangagamer will respond of i I use the official title in my game title too.

Wow my friend, sorry to hear all that happened to you. Hope all is well with you now...
 
From a few posts earlier: http://www.anime-sharing.com/forum/...ssion-thread-44653/index1195.html#post2718267

There's only a mikocon crack available in the private VIP section. So not easily accessible :(. Seeing as the mikocon crack is playable but not 100% good. maybe it will be better to wait to get the best experience. I mean it came within a week of release and considering, Kabe no Mukou no Tsuma no Koe 2 came out months after. It's great news regardless, so possible it will be out soon.

But yeah, I am in the same boat. Looking at the cg and always making my own imaginations out of it. I can't wait to play it either. I mean if that "okay" crack from mikocon somehow makes it out, I will be a first to download it LOL.

The crack is also broken, at the moment you still can't watch the animated scenes or see the flow chart. If you want to play it with the current crack you need to delete or remove them from the game folder.

So there still currently is a 100% crack for this game.

Wow my friend, sorry to hear all that happened to you. Hope all is well with you now...

Thanks, things turned out for the better in the end. I have a much larger place now (went from 550 sq. ft to 850) and there is NO mold thank god. I just moved in this month and finally unfinished packing. My computer is being a little weird though, keeps cycling down one hd if my blu ray burner is on...sigh....don't have money to replace anything.

Aaanyway I have a lot to catch up on from eroge to Persona 5.
 
[Haitoku Sensei] Netorare Mousou Syndrome ~Kouhen~

is it his delusion again or she was really cheating on him?

...any idea?
Is up to the reader.

Mil/XRATIOn did this before. You pick your poison.
 
Wow Team NTR's newest game sure is short and the ending...just ends, although I suppose it has to the way it does...but still. They really seem to be pushing this notion that netorase is bad...but I feel the writer or team for that matter doesn't realize the reason WHY these games are selling for them is because players like seeing their loved one being shared. Not being lectured that theres something wrong with them for having this fantasy...if they keep lecturing people with this fantasy they might alienate that consumer base because clearly they don't understand it (as the writer himself has stated before).

Moving beyond that 透けちゃって!! ~九死に一生を得て濃密セカンドライフ~ has some element of NTR to it...sorta, you die and return to find that your gf has a new boyfriend. Its very mild NTR but its there.

Just finished playing 鬼鎮の雌贄~幾多の魔手と淫縛の掟~ and wow what an unexpected gem, I only wish it had a pregnancy ending. Seriously how does it not?! I even went looking for a patch lol
 
I've just read the previous pages.

Damn, that's some bad luck man. Glad to see you back and hope you get better.
 
The crack is also broken, at the moment you still can't watch the animated scenes or see the flow chart. If you want to play it with the current crack you need to delete or remove them from the game folder.

So there still currently is a 100% crack for this game.



Thanks, things turned out for the better in the end. I have a much larger place now (went from 550 sq. ft to 850) and there is NO mold thank god. I just moved in this month and finally unfinished packing. My computer is being a little weird though, keeps cycling down one hd if my blu ray burner is on...sigh....don't have money to replace anything.

Aaanyway I have a lot to catch up on from eroge to Persona 5.

glad to see you are okay now tentacle! go catch on persona first haha that one takes me 110 hour in single playthrough

btw just to clarify, mikocon crack only breaks op, ed movie and animated sex scenes, flow chart works with no issue at all.

Wow Team NTR's newest game sure is short and the ending...just ends, although I suppose it has to the way it does...but still. They really seem to be pushing this notion that netorase is bad...but I feel the writer or team for that matter doesn't realize the reason WHY these games are selling for them is because players like seeing their loved one being shared. Not being lectured that theres something wrong with them for having this fantasy...if they keep lecturing people with this fantasy they might alienate that consumer base because clearly they don't understand it (as the writer himself has stated before).

Moving beyond that 透けちゃって!! ~九死に一生を得て濃密セカンドライフ~ has some element of NTR to it...sorta, you die and return to find that your gf has a new boyfriend. Its very mild NTR but its there.

Just finished playing 鬼鎮の雌贄~幾多の魔手と淫縛の掟~ and wow what an unexpected gem, I only wish it had a pregnancy ending. Seriously how does it not?! I even went looking for a patch lol

man, i agree 100%, they keep doing this netorase is bad preaching in the game, i mean sure it is bad, but heck that is why i want it as a fiction in a game haha. But man netorase shiori really fall short from my expectation, the way she got stolen is a case of a really bad writing imo..

just checking also.. has anyone played this ? 冥刻學園 受胎編「お願いします……先生の精液で、私達を助けて欲しいんです!

the ova seems pretty good, and is it true at the end all the girls got gang banged by other male beside MC?
 
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I have a question about the new Anim game that hope someone that have bought it can confirm (maybe light spoilers).

I read somewhere (I think it was in sadpanda) that the MC (Profag/husband whatever you want to call him) has a mistress. Is this true?

I don't mind spoilers. I really hope is not the case, because it will kind of ruin it for me, and given the good critics the game is having it would be kind of a waste (for me).
 
I have a question about the new Anim game that hope someone that have bought it can confirm (maybe light spoilers).

I read somewhere (I think it was in sadpanda) that the MC (Profag/husband whatever you want to call him) has a mistress. Is this true?

I don't mind spoilers. I really hope is not the case, because it will kind of ruin it for me, and given the good critics the game is having it would be kind of a waste (for me).

no thats not his mistress, i believe you are talking about the cg where the mc gets a blowjob from a girl that looked alot like the other lady from chichi no futoi yobi, so pretty much what happened, one of the mc's female subordinate, kinda likes him and keeps making advances on him. MC is a good man though and he keeps rejecting the advance, until the very last day of his business trip where he went drunk and woke up in a hotel, while being sucked by this female subordinate, he didnt do anything else, he said he cant do this because he has a family already, and left the hotel.. ironic because when he left the hotel and about to go home, you can either a, call your wife (in the middle of her sex with the gaijin) to inform her that you are coming home early, which triggers a bad end, or go home early without warning your wife and found out about her infidelity yourself.
 
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