I just finished the new Anim game... I was hooked and end up pulling an all-nighter to finish it, excellent game. I am not in the mood to make a proper review with the pros and cons, but I can say I am satisfied, I liked being able to see the "happenings" in 3 POVs and I want more. I love this brand since I played the first Kabe Tsuma when it was released. They put so much value in the game, now we got the flow system, animations, e-mote, character display mode, etc. This is the kind of game I am willing to pay for.
In the character display mode there aren't all the variations of outfits (
I already unlocked the other two versions of her
), I was hoping to see her with
the new hair and the tank top combination
for example, am I missing something or there is no option to do this?
Agree on pretty much all points, my man! I'm not sure a review is even necessary because it's a really great game and not too difficult to follow, and I think folks here will be happy to answer any questions that pop up.
I know I need to be careful and temper my expectations, but it's hard coming off something like this. Right now my biggest complaint with the game is that we'll probably to have to wait another 9 months or year for their next NTR game and I'll spend a lot of that worrying if this was an exception rather than their new standard before the next title gets announced and then worrying about whether they'll drop the ball or not on the new story once it is!
I am selfishly praying they stick to wives and milfs and don't go back to the girlfriend/school setting again.
I know things can get pretty depressive around here when we each hit a slump or there's a game drought but I am pretty optimistic right now! With teams like ANIM and Jinsei going strong and other groups putting out strong titles occasionally I think maybe the end of the Golden Age of NTR that was heralded with the passing of Elf might not have come after all...
As for your spoiler question:
I kind of think the character viewer is mostly an afterthought bonus on their part. Kabe 2 was missing a few outfits and you'll notice there's no non-pregnant version of tanned Akie, either. Or I could be wrong and some of the missing bits require a 100% file? Guess we'll have to find out. I'd have liked to see a few more things, too, just to be comprehensive. Plus Akie's Christmas costume is sex on roller skates.
Characters with faces are always better in my book, no matter who they are. I know why they often don't have them, but personally I feel that an artist attaching a face to someone forces people to care more about said character whether its affection or dislike. It's like playing RPGs back in the day, right? You know anyone that got a character portrait was worth paying attention to. Sometimes it's easier to get attached to the guy doing the stealing than the boyfriend or husband just because you get to see them and their expressions. If they don't want to break POV, then take some fucking pictures or something so we still have the opportunity to actually see the profag with his wife or family.
Agree on pretty much all points, my man! I'm not sure a review is even necessary because it's a really great game and not too difficult to follow, and I think folks here will be happy to answer any questions that pop up.
I know I need to be careful and temper my expectations, but it's hard coming off something like this. Right now my biggest complaint with the game is that we'll probably to have to wait another 9 months or year for their next NTR game and I'll spend a lot of that worrying if this was an exception rather than their new standard before the next title gets announced and then worrying about whether they'll drop the ball or not on the new story once it is!
I am selfishly praying they stick to wives and milfs and don't go back to the girlfriend/school setting again.
I know things can get pretty depressive around here when we each hit a slump or there's a game drought but I am pretty optimistic right now! With teams like ANIM and Jinsei going strong and other groups putting out strong titles occasionally I think maybe the end of the Golden Age of NTR that was heralded with the passing of Elf might not have come after all...
As for your spoiler question:
I kind of think the character viewer is mostly an afterthought bonus on their part. Kabe 2 was missing a few outfits and you'll notice there's no non-pregnant version of tanned Akie, either. Or I could be wrong and some of the missing bits require a 100% file? Guess we'll have to find out. I'd have liked to see a few more things, too, just to be comprehensive. Plus Akie's Christmas costume is sex on roller skates.
Characters with faces are always better in my book, no matter who they are. I know why they often don't have them, but personally I feel that an artist attaching a face to someone forces people to care more about said character whether its affection or dislike. It's like playing RPGs back in the day, right? You know anyone that got a character portrait was worth paying attention to. Sometimes it's easier to get attached to the guy doing the stealing than the boyfriend or husband just because you get to see them and their expressions. If they don't want to break POV, then take some fucking pictures or something so we still have the opportunity to actually see the profag with his wife or family.
Honestly i prefer if they take a risk and try a school or college setting, maybe an unusual couple (like teacher x student) or something different so they don't enter "milking it for all its worth" mentality and end up beating a dead horse xD.
Honestly i prefer if they take a risk and try a school or college setting, maybe an unusual couple (like teacher x student) or something different so they don't enter "milking it for all its worth" mentality and end up beating a dead horse xD.
Eh, I can see where you're coming from with that, bro, but lately all their stories with married couples have been different enough to stand on their own and the characters have all been different archetypes. I don't think we have to worry about them just churning out the same shit with a slightly different heroine ala Atelier Sakura.
They've done several school ones already(and I wouldn't call them bad, either, just not up to the standard of their wife games), so I think they'll probably do so again, I just don't find those settings to usually be all that compelling personally. Ultimately the writers will tell whatever story they find interesting and we'll go along for the ride. If they need to switch it up to keep themselves creative, so be it.
Eh, I can see where you're coming from with that, bro, but lately all their stories with married couples have been different enough to stand on their own and the characters have all been different archetypes. I don't think we have to worry about them just churning out the same shit with a slightly different heroine ala Atelier Sakura.
They've done several school ones already(and I wouldn't call them bad, either, just not up to the standard of their wife games), so I think they'll probably do so again, I just don't find those settings to usually be all that compelling personally. Ultimately the writers will tell whatever story they find interesting and we'll go along for the ride. If they need to switch it up to keep themselves creative, so be it.
man.. anim's new game akie's pov is rad, i am still at their first fuck, but man oh man.. the inner monologue, the moan, the orgasmic face reaction (yeah this is how you do "orgasm" face, not some silly weird ass ahegao), and most importantly, how her whole perspective change (like masturbating to Dani's cock instead of the husband now) are all done so fucking well.
I am slow, I know, i only finished husband pov and up to first fuck between wife and Dani, but man, I will sound like broken record but I can only take enough "beatings" every night hahaha, can't wait till i get to the part where
She start wearing tanktops and hotpants.. and that sexy black dress + underwear.. i have to know what Dani requested from her and how she agreed to it, fuck!
I am in agreement with Action Bastard, I am afraid this might have set the NTR game bar a bit higher now for me, even for Anim themselves.
I am slow, I know, i only finished husband pov and up to first fuck between wife and Dani, but man, I will sound like broken record but I can only take enough "beatings" every night hahaha
I've had the game for a week and have only gotten through all of Toru's and Riko's main route POVs. About halfway through Riko's POV on the oyakodon route. It's hard to resist sometimes, but I think good games are best enjoyed as a slow burn. Will prolly go Akie's initial part and then oyakodon route and save what I think is the best for last. Enjoy and appreciate it all, boys, cause we're likely in for a long wait until we get something as good.
I've had the game for a week and have only gotten through all of Toru's and Riko's main route POVs. About halfway through Riko's POV on the oyakodon route. It's hard to resist sometimes, but I think good games are best enjoyed as a slow burn. Will prolly go Akie's initial part and then oyakodon route and save what I think is the best for last. Enjoy and appreciate it all, boys, cause we're likely in for a long wait until we get something as good.
I actually think there's possibility that protag only imagines that she said that indicating that his "mousou syndrome" is still there. There is no proof whether what she said is true or only in his imagination. We only know for sure that Ryota (wife's friend) lose his earring. weird thing is that unless you're doing something physical with rigorous movement, I think it's quite impossible to lose earring. Also the last shot where we can clearly see Ryota's ear, his earring is still there. It's shortly before he cums inside Ryouko. So if the earring does fall under the bed, it must have happen during the ejaculation or after protag is unconscious.
So imo Ryouko does cheat but whether the exact scene plays out exactly like in protag's imagination i don't know. I love this manga and the author keeps churning good NTR works.
It's definitely possible and while it can be fun to theorize I dont think there is merit in trying to establish something as canon since the author himself leaves no strong evidence pointing one way or the other. For instance I could argue that the earring could've been kicked into their bedroom after falling in the corridor and the wife actually blurted that out since her clean conscience makes her oblivious to the implications. I also find incredibly hard to believe that they'd find the husband lying on the floor pants down and jizz all over the floor and then decide to move him to the couch and act like nothing ever happened the next morning praying to god his memory would be fuzzy, THEN mention the earring. Pick whichever version you like best.
no thats not his mistress, i believe you are talking about the cg where the mc gets a blowjob from a girl that looked alot like the other lady from chichi no futoi yobi, so pretty much what happened, one of the mc's female subordinate, kinda likes him and keeps making advances on him. MC is a good man though and he keeps rejecting the advance, until the very last day of his business trip where he went drunk and woke up in a hotel, while being sucked by this female subordinate, he didnt do anything else, he said he cant do this because he has a family already, and left the hotel.. ironic because when he left the hotel and about to go home, you can either a, call your wife (in the middle of her sex with the gaijin) to inform her that you are coming home early, which triggers a bad end, or go home early without warning your wife and found out about her infidelity yourself.
I see where you're coming from, brother, but I'm actually glad they didn't in this case. ANIM has done a pretty good job of making their profags stand out from one another, and I think something like that would have cheapened the one we got this time around.
I'd say he's more old-school and traditional than a lot of dudes we've seen while still trying to be loving and attentive to his family.
Most other profags would sleep with the thirsty as fuck cute co-worker and try to justify it somehow, and he's one of the few that when sent porn of what looks like his wife doesn't immediately start thinking about how hot it is and start beating off.
About the only thing Toru really does wrong is get cast in a netorare game. He's a good guy and doesn't deserve to be treated the way he does, but I can't feel too sorry for him because he does get a couple relatively happy endings and even a chance at something in one of the bad ones. Also he's not real or whatever, so fuck him. If he wanted to be happy for the rest of his life, he never should have made a pretty woman his wife! Jimmy Soul tried to teach us all way back in the 60s and no one listened! (Go listen to "If you Wanna Be Happy" on YouTube or someplace. It's fucking hilarious.) So, yeah, If my choices are to see a good guy get rewarded for being a good guy or seeing his wife turn into a sex-loving slut, this bastard is picking number two every time!
It doesn't make Toru any less of a compelling character and they wrote a story that works very well with him as the profag. I think they were smart to include the daughter's perspective in the main route because it allowed for some of the voyeur stuff and personality change that many enjoy without having to make the husband aware.
I suppose they could have made lots of short bad ends where he finds out at different points and the game ends abruptly, but I think the storytelling was tight enough this time that there didn't need to be a lot of paths and such.
One of the things I love most of all in NTR games are physical signs of the girl falling and they gave us plenty of that this time around. I still want more, but I really enjoyed the different outfit changes we see over the course of the game. Which takes place over a nice long period instead of a few weeks or even months. The little tank top and short shorts combo Akie starts rocking later on the game is enough to make my dick spring to life and bludgeon things to death like it's a Diamond Stiffy of Greater Engorgement +1.
...If they ever give me a game with a good story where you also get to actively control the girl's wardrobe as the game progresses I'll probably die on the spot and be buried with a massive boner pointing up out of that casket.
Joachim cleared up things for you pretty well, Shotakun, but never forget that the vast majority of people making comments on Pandaland(and the different image boards aren't much better) are to put it nicely complete retards. Someone else there was also shouting about how the game wasn't netorare but netori... Most are fucking clueless about nearly everything but always eager to chime in.
Thanks for your answers. I actually downloaded the game and play it as soon as I discovered a crack was released, and I'm so fucking glad I did. With all the positive comments about it I was expecting something good, but damn, it's exceeding my expectations. Now I can see why all are saying it's so great. I'm still early in the game, but this are my first impressions:
I usually don't care about mystery NTR, my favorite NTR is wife POV with ocasional changes of perspective to Profag at key points (stealth sex, discovery, phone calls, etc.), but man, I started to play the husband route and I was hooked. It's very well written and it doesn't drag on forever (like Venus, I mean don't get me wrong, Venus is GREAT but they have to learn how to not drag on forever and chop off all the unnecesary infodumping), the scenes (dots in the flowchat) are not that long and that helps the player avoid skipping, that and the well written story.
The flowchart helps a lot too into telling the player where in the story he is. I played husband POV till the second choice and couldn't take it anymore so I started playing the wife POV and it was FANTASTIC. I'm a little past the husband first choice in the wife's POV (blowjob starts :D) From now on I will play both POVs simultaneuslly, cause I think that's the best way for me to enjoy this game, and that's one of the greatest things of this game, that you can play it however you like. You can play it mystery style, you can play it female POV, you can play it changing POVs, you can even play it voyeur style (haven't try it, but as Action Bastard said you can do it from the daughter perspective. In that note, I would have prefered a son perspective, but well, maybe in the next game hopefully); so there is something for almost anyone, there is even loli for those that like it.
Another thing I like about this game is the gaijin that steals the wife, I love how you can't really decide if he is a wolf in a sheep skin or a mischevious child in a muscular body. I think is the later and that he is pretending (DON'T SPOIL ME THIS ONE), but I really like how he is not the usual cybord that is usually the villain in NTR games (you know, the guy that is there just because someone has to steal the wife, and doesn't feel a thing in sex scenes as he bangs her like a robot and humillates her till she breaks); I like how he actually enjoys the sexy time he has with the hot wife (like a normal human being would); I hope this doesn't change later on, since I'm still far from the first sex scene.
I really hope the husband ends up devastated at the end at least in one of the endings. Given joachim and Action Bastard replies, I'm guessing he will. He seems like a really nice guy, so I hope he is not one of those profags that end up being perverts that fap to the wife infidelity. I want suffering!!! LOL... By the way that scene Joachim describes in the spoilers is GOLD, I can't wait to get to that scene and to make "the choice".
Sorry for the long post by I'm really hyped with this game. It's beeing soooo long since I have played a GREAT NTR game!!! (I think we all have).
So I tried to play the Waffle game with VNR. Of-course that thing threw a fit. But for some odd reason even after following [MENTION=110790]joachim[/MENTION]; advice, my VNR still won't render text properly. I am sure I have my VNR hook enabled.
And I definitely selected the blue "WAFFLE" code that surfaced during the text setting window but still cycling through the lines of the game only shows blank texts
Not saying joachim is wrong because a lot of folks seem to be able to make it work after following his advice. It's just that for some odd reason the solution isn't working for me... /mystery....
Forgot to mention, I have a question regarding the Anim game. Does the crack still works if I apply the patch? And also, what does the patch does? Does it add new content? Fix some errors maybe?
I've gathered the Anim game is good ) Nice to hear! Honestly Anim hasn't let me down ever, so I'll definitely be buying this as soon as it releases on DLsite.
Well, I've played Kashidashi Kanojo and liked it much more then Marina. Why? First of all there is two types of fap-games - fast and slow. "Fast" is when you can just skip less important moments and still enjoy story, this is mostly short games. And "slow" - it is when you enjoying slowly reading this story. Both Marina and Shiori games can be considered as fast, so for me it didn't really matter if story somewhat rushed. But that matter is overall direction and heroines design, both of them I more liked in Shiori. And in Shiori game netorase become netorare in the end, while in Marina (if I understand right) heroine doesn't really stolen and eventually come back to MC. Shiory has appearance of innocent young girl, while Marina more like mature slutty woman, not really good type for NTR feeling.
Not saying joachim is wrong because a lot of folks seem to be able to make it work after following his advice. It's just that for some odd reason the solution isn't working for me... /mystery....
VNR a little bugged and different versions can have different bugs. SO I always have 2 different versions of it, old one and newest. Sometimes if game don't work with one version, then it would work with another. Just try different version and most likely game will work properly.
So I tried to play the Waffle game with VNR. Of-course that thing threw a fit. But for some odd reason even after following [MENTION=110790]joachim[/MENTION]; advice, my VNR still won't render text properly. I am sure I have my VNR hook enabled.
And I definitely selected the blue "WAFFLE" code that surfaced during the text setting window but still cycling through the lines of the game only shows blank texts
Not saying joachim is wrong because a lot of folks seem to be able to make it work after following his advice. It's just that for some odd reason the solution isn't working for me... /mystery....
Wow so many lovers for the new ANIM game. I guess they recovered themselves from the mediocrity they churned out in kabe no muko 2. Good for them. I'll give it a whirl myself and see what is so awesome about it. Maybe it might move my dead NTR heart.
[MENTION=143669]greenlittleman[/MENTION];
Thanks for the advice. I was about to do that when I read your post. Downloading a Russian version of VNR. Hopefully that does the trick. And I guess I'll pick up the Shiori game while I am at it. I intended to skip it but I guess it won't hurt to judge the game myself. My friends didn't like it but maybe I might? Though I still disagree with you a bit. Marina only looks slutty. She is very much loyal and sexually aggressive. Likes to take charge of the situation but by no means is a slut. It's evident all through the three games and even in the end tells Kenji that sharing your wife isn't a good thing. Never judge a book just by its cover :P
PS: Did anyone figure out the mystery about the ANIM game patch released via twitter? Does it add more content or just stability patch for bug fixing?
EDIT: The new VNR I downloaded fixed things a bit but they are still not perfect. There seem to be gaps in the text and words are being eaten by the translator.
This might need some more brain wracking it seems. Not really sure where the problem is as I can run the new ANIM game with VNR just fine.
MAJOR EDIT: OH WOW. For some reason my VNR totally took over the game's text engine as well. I am seeing the game text in English instead of Japanese and even my text settings have vanished into a small window in Read Mode only. O_O
WHAAAAATTT?! All other games are fine. What the heck kind of witchcraft did Waffle put into this?
Has anyone else finished '喪失のMarried Life' by VENUS? https://vndb.org/v13921
Can someone help me clarify the story/endings more clearly for me? I’m trying to comprehend the story but my Google translation-level Japanese sucks. What I understand so far is that…
Sex never felt good for the wife, plus the husband works overtime very often doesn’t come home often. Old guy is a widower and lusts after wife. Tries to connect to the wife through her kid. Wife feels sorry for old guy when he talks about his dead wife. In the later days, old guy saves wife’s kid from a car accident but gets hurt as a result. Old guy takes advantage of wife for the first time through her guilt and gratitude and asks her to pose as a replacement for dead wife. Wife succumbs to pleasure but is still faithful. The second instance, the wife gets drunk and old dude takes advantage of her and engages in penetration and the wife further succumbs to pleasure. Then she wakes up the next morning where the old guy promises to take her kid to the park. Then he comes back and interrupts the wife as she’s using his shower. Even under the knowledge that her kid is alone at the park playing, she engages in intercourse with the old dude anyway. Eventually, their acts behind the husband become more risqué and old dude blackmails wife with pictures whenever she decides to back down. Then, the husband’s director knows about her affair and blackmails her about it. The wife is reluctant to enjoy sex with the director, but eventually succumbs to her pleasure and turns into his sex slave. The wife is then conflicted and decides her heart is better off with the old guy where they end up meeting at the wife’s home and have sex. During this time, the husband finally confirms his suspicions by seeing them having sex in their bedroom and confronts them about it shortly after. At this point, the wife has already made up in her mind to divorce and live with the old man by being won over by the sheer pleasure from their sexual deviance as well as her kid enjoying the company of the old dude. What I don’t really understand is the events before the car crash and post car-crash. It seems she was mistaken about something when the husband’s escort talks to her. One ending shows her recovering from the crash in the hospital and the old dude and the kid seemingly become a happy family. The other is that she is in heat and goes back to the director to become his sex slave. Also, did the husband cheat the wife first or vice-versa? I’m curious since it seems she tried to justify cheating on her husband by letting him know that he knew about him cheating. Did that motivate her to have sex with the old man at first? That’s pretty fucked up if she cheated first, refused her husbands’ requests to have sex which prompted him to grab an escort, then accuses the husband of cheating after enjoying getting her brains fucked by two different elder men lol.
If someone can gladly correct my interpretation and give a little more light on the premise that'll ease my mind a little more xD.
Has anyone else finished '喪失のMarried Life' by VENUS? https://vndb.org/v13921
Can someone help me clarify the story/endings more clearly for me? I’m trying to comprehend the story but my Google translation-level Japanese sucks. What I understand so far is that…
Sex never felt good for the wife, plus the husband works overtime very often doesn’t come home often. Old guy is a widower and lusts after wife. Tries to connect to the wife through her kid. Wife feels sorry for old guy when he talks about his dead wife. In the later days, old guy saves wife’s kid from a car accident but gets hurt as a result. Old guy takes advantage of wife for the first time through her guilt and gratitude and asks her to pose as a replacement for dead wife. Wife succumbs to pleasure but is still faithful. The second instance, the wife gets drunk and old dude takes advantage of her and engages in penetration and the wife further succumbs to pleasure. Then she wakes up the next morning where the old guy promises to take her kid to the park. Then he comes back and interrupts the wife as she’s using his shower. Even under the knowledge that her kid is alone at the park playing, she engages in intercourse with the old dude anyway. Eventually, their acts behind the husband become more risqué and old dude blackmails wife with pictures whenever she decides to back down. Then, the husband’s director knows about her affair and blackmails her about it. The wife is reluctant to enjoy sex with the director, but eventually succumbs to her pleasure and turns into his sex slave. The wife is then conflicted and decides her heart is better off with the old guy where they end up meeting at the wife’s home and have sex. During this time, the husband finally confirms his suspicions by seeing them having sex in their bedroom and confronts them about it shortly after. At this point, the wife has already made up in her mind to divorce and live with the old man by being won over by the sheer pleasure from their sexual deviance as well as her kid enjoying the company of the old dude. What I don’t really understand is the events before the car crash and post car-crash. It seems she was mistaken about something when the husband’s escort talks to her. One ending shows her recovering from the crash in the hospital and the old dude and the kid seemingly become a happy family. The other is that she is in heat and goes back to the director to become his sex slave. Also, did the husband cheat the wife first or vice-versa? I’m curious since it seems she tried to justify cheating on her husband by letting him know that he knew about him cheating. Did that motivate her to have sex with the old man at first? That’s pretty fucked up if she cheated first, refused her husbands’ requests to have sex which prompted him to grab an escort, then accuses the husband of cheating after enjoying getting her brains fucked by two different elder men lol.
If someone can gladly correct my interpretation and give a little more light on the premise that'll ease my mind a little more xD.
I did a bunch of posts about Married Life way back on pages 26 and 27 of this thread. Look over those and I think all of your questions will be answered.
Thanks for the response. Very thorough analysis of the game.
Is it true that Ootsuka takes pictures when having sex with Yoko and later sends them to her in order to blackmail her?
Or were those images just Yoko's flashbacks? (I'm referring to the instance when there is a CG of her lying on her bed with her back facing up with white fluid around her genitals, implying she was creampied.)
Sorry, I haven't played that game in a really long time. I could definitely be wrong, but I don't recall Otsuka ever being that scummy. He definitely wanted to get Yoko for himself, but his game was more to play the nice guy and highlight how he cared for her while her husband didn't. Oh, and to pummel her with his big dick every chance he got, as well. That was a pretty good strategy, too.
I can't see him doing that and also attempting blackmail at the same time and Yoko is loyal to him to the point of believing him over her own husband, etc. I think something like that would give her pause and create some sort of conflict I'd remember.
If anyone else knows more or can recall things better than this old bastard, please chime in!
