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Wow I haven't visited this place in awhile and everything looks different but the netorare section is still here haha.

I've been knee deep in the new Castella game and would love some new netorase recommends newer than 2023 :D

I've probably played everything from before that haha, would love some doujin game recommends so I can also buy them from dlsite and support rare netorase games
 
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straight.shota said:
Nope, it just counts as a cheap way to milk his work because we haven't had a great NTR release in so long, that we are starving for anything that resembles it. But don't get me wrong, Netorare no Tami is a great artist, but it's a shame he is going for quantity over quality.

Hello NTR fellows, I'm here again, after a long time, but who can blame me? NTR is almost dying (almost)... So, I've been hanging in there with my other fetishes and coming back here from time to time to find... (almost) nothing worth it...

I mean, yes!! There is a doujin here and there that is pretty hot!! A NTR game in DLsite that is not total trash, and some other vanilla work with hints to NTR that is actually decent... but... do you remember the last time we had a nomination for the best NTR game of the year?... Because we used to have something like that... almost every year!!... When was the last time that a NTR visual novel was even worthy of a nomination?

If you ask me, the last great game... wait!! That's unfair... let's rephrase it: The last masterpiece we had was Boy Hero Ken in 2020!... And that was an unfinished game (that we will never see finished sadly). I dare you to tell me there's a game that surpasses, or even equals that level of excellence.

NTR is (almost) dying. And I confirm it every time I check dlsite top ranking and see a cheap copy-paste RPG game outselling Rascou's works. (Almost) Anyone that had played Rascou's game would agree that Toaru Yukari Adamachi is one of the best NTR Visual Novel/Games of all time.

But then here comes this rpgmaker developer with a "game" with 70% grinding and 30% half-assed story (at best) that outsells Rascou's game by far!!... And you still wonder why Rascou doesn't develop visual novels anymore?... If I were in his/her shoes I'd do the same... I'd start to make color manga (because that's what he/she is doing right now) because it's just not worth putting the effort to make a masterful Visual Novel... or rather, is not rentable.

I'm going to finish my rant here, but not without saying that there might be some exceptions... Yes!! And I applaud them!!... But we're so... SO!!!... in the shadow of what NTR used to be!!

To be honest I wanted to talk about something else altogether, but rage got the best out of me... "rage"... I still remember when "rage" was a synonym of NTR... Damn, I'm old!!...
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Game wise, I agree that NTR is dying, at least major studios. Their outputs are slowing down, their content is getting dull and derivative and they just aren't making enough money to keep the business running. A lot of big developers and publishers have either downsized or close shop altogether. It is def a multi-factorial problem.

For a lack of a better word, indie-wise/small circles and amateur wise we do get 2-3 games a year that still stand out, I think that is comparable to the past, no? ( I don't mean major studios)

The biggest problem is the flood of r-tards with no standards and "normies" flooding the hobby and by extension "weeb" communities in general. This combined with the ease of access now to make your own game, and thus it sells like hot cakes. Just go to F95, I have never seen a collection of such idiots on my time on the internet all congregating in one place. Obviously not all the users, but an overwhelming majority for sure.

Some of the old creators too have probably just gotten older also so they take it slow, or retire or want to change subject matter. Take Rascou for example. I'll use his his mom NTR game you referenced, it has some of the best slow burn NTR writing ever in my opinion, coupled with really hard mini-game. I'd love it if he would go back to it and make it have more of a definitive ending, but he seems to have outgrown it, or at the very least not interested in it right now and is focusing on other much different projects. We also can't forget payment processors

tldr; a mixture of: payment processors, money not being what is used to be, studios and publishers closing, ease of access of tools, a flood of idiots and normies, having to self-censor in some cases, artists just moving on, too much competition in some regard, everyone having a monthly subscription, etc... it makes the perfect storm.
 
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Namkapple said:
Take Rascou for example. I'll use his his mom NTR game you referenced, it has some of the best slow burn NTR writing ever in my opinion, coupled with really hard mini-game. I'd love it if he would go back to it and make it have more of a definitive ending, but he seems to have outgrown it, or at the very least not interested in it right now and is focusing on other much different projects.
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I think he just released new scenes for that game last week, but just for cien subscribers.
 
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Yadoumi said:
I think he just released new scenes for that game last week, but just for cien subscribers.
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Wow! What a shocking coincidence. I took a look just now. I think it is not an erotic scene based on the post, and it looks to be cut content that he turned into a small "game" to just read through. That said I would have loved to have experienced it, but he had some requirements that I could not meet since I was not subbed to him.

That's how the chips fall, I guess. Hopefully it gets released/leaked in the future.

P.S. Thank you so much for sharing this info with me. It was pleasant surprise.
 
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NTR games aren't entirely dead. Well, not yet.

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I'm making a pure NTR game. I hired Japanese artists and voice actors, and there's no AI usage whatsoever.
However, it's very, very expensive. More info on my game here.
https://www.skyblueaster.com/heartswornabyss

Right now, we are looking for support so we make new heroine sprites and ugly bastards. We would like to make one new voiced scene per month. If you could contribute, we would sincerely appreciate it.
https://www.patreon.com/skyblueaster

Currently, we have released 2 chapters with 30k words and voice acting, but it is difficult to maintain the high-quality artwork and voice acting without additional support. I am not from a wealthy place, so it took me years of saving to get this far. :(
 
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skyblueaster said:
NTR games aren't entirely dead. Well, not yet.

ss_3174158e7bbbb4c65f0e01c8081a461c22ca037a.1920x1080.jpg


I'm making a pure NTR game. I hired Japanese artists and voice actors, and there's no AI usage whatsoever.
However, it's very, very expensive. More info on my game here.
https://www.skyblueaster.com/heartswornabyss

Right now, we are looking for support so we make new heroine sprites and ugly bastards. We would like to make one new voiced scene per month. If you could contribute, we would sincerely appreciate it.
https://www.patreon.com/skyblueaster

Currently, we have released 2 chapters with 30k words and voice acting, but it is difficult to maintain the high-quality artwork and voice acting without additional support. I am not from a wealthy place, so it took me years of saving to get this far. :(
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Sorry, man, but that's now how you earn money in this niche. There are relatively popular NTR, mostly netorase works, that are made using AI art that get dozens of 5-star reviews on f95, all they have is high quality AI art and a story premise that has a lot of potential. There are also other games that use relatively free assets, like some wildly popular games of different genres that use Koikatsu, or Honeyselect models, that can be used for free. You chose a very wrong approach to succeeding in this niche.

The way to earn money with a h-game is to make a working alpha 0.1 version with about an hour of content or less using free tools and trying to hook people with the premise and your writing. If you aren't from a first world country and earn six figures in $$$ and thus can't just risk spending a few thousand bucks for no return, you should never spend more than 100$ on your first project. The main deciding factor if your game will succeed isn't even its art and definitely not voice acting, the latter being absolutely irrelevant for the vast majority of people while costing the most. You'll already be ahead of other developers if you just add cute moaning bgv, lol. Instead, the main factors are the story's premise and quality of your writing.

What I would've done if I wanted to succeed with an NTR game nowadays : I'd made a few short alpha versions of different games with different premises, definitely would choose netorase as nowadays it's the most popular NTR sub-genre among English audience, and then see which of the alphas was the most popular. I'd use only relatively free resources for art or hire some AI artist who could create good art for 1/10 of the price if I was too lazy to learn how to do this myself, or, more likely, use Koikatsu like the developer of the King of Summer, one of the most successful NTR games made by a westerner, it also allows you to add animations which are important for a certain category of people.

But beware that if you're going for a niche market like NTR, then even earning just 1-3k$ per month on Patreon is considered a "great success". That's the reality of the market, that's how much the "top developers" like Hangovercat earn, and you won't get there in a month or even a year. Honestly, if I wanted to earn $$$ as a h-game developer I'd stay away from straight NTR, making something more mainstream and then adding completely avoidable NTR as a bonus content and for my own satisfaction, I'd even add a "skip all NTR" option to not turn off an average player.
 
A short review of Solgante DLC

Ah man... i was hoping balance portion between the three of them. And what i got was... Daston focused story again , hahaha.

I ain't complaining Daston exta story, his part the best and raunchy one ofcourse. But for other two, it was kinda letdown . If you're Harry fans, his extra DLC story events are pretty hot. But some are just like rehash of his previous ero event. Naji extra events was .... IDK kinda weird i guess, it has a bit inconsistency with Naji personality part. In thr base game ending , he aint an innocent boy anymore, but in his DLC he act like a virgin. It was Eleanor who being dominant for his DLC ero events.

  • Eleanor ordered to service her subordinates by Harry, it was hot as fuck!
  • The restaurant ero event on Harry extra also full of debauchery, this one was the one where Eleanor doesn't feels awkward to humiliate and betrayed her husband
  • I was really disappointed with Harry event in mecha cockpit with Eleanor. He didn't event trying to roleplaying when fuck her in there. What a wssted potential
  • Naji two simulation event was hot, it's finally granted my wish to see Naji cockpit ero event. But his pool ero event was meh. I wish it was three simulation events instead pool event
  • Like i said this DLC was more focused on Duston story. All of his events was fresh , hot, and unique. Ofcourse all chained events for the new rubber suits was hot as fuck. Two new battle events from this part also my favorite. The banquet sex events was the one that i find it meh
  • Outside those new suit events, i love the bukkake gangbang makeup event on Duston route. It was hot AF! I can't wait to play with uncensored mod. Also Duston clothed paizuri event deserve recognition. That scene was short but effectively sexy! Much better than Naji's pool event.
 
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Sorry, man, but that's now how you earn money in this niche. There are relatively popular NTR, mostly netorase works, that are made using AI art that get dozens of 5-star reviews on f95, all they have is high quality AI art and a story premise that has a lot of potential. There are also other games that use relatively free assets, like some wildly popular games of different genres that use Koikatsu, or Honeyselect models, that can be used for free. You chose a very wrong approach to succeeding in this niche.

The way to earn money with a h-game is to make a working alpha 0.1 version with about an hour of content or less using free tools and trying to hook people with the premise and your writing. If you aren't from a first world country and earn six figures in $$$ and thus can't just risk spending a few thousand bucks for no return, you should never spend more than 100$ on your first project. The main deciding factor if your game will succeed isn't even its art and definitely not voice acting, the latter being absolutely irrelevant for the vast majority of people while costing the most. You'll already be ahead of other developers if you just add cute moaning bgv, lol. Instead, the main factors are the story's premise and quality of your writing.

What I would've done if I wanted to succeed with an NTR game nowadays : I'd made a few short alpha versions of different games with different premises, definitely would choose netorase as nowadays it's the most popular NTR sub-genre among English audience, and then see which of the alphas was the most popular. I'd use only relatively free resources for art or hire some AI artist who could create good art for 1/10 of the price if I was too lazy to learn how to do this myself, or, more likely, use Koikatsu like the developer of the King of Summer, one of the most successful NTR games made by a westerner, it also allows you to add animations which are important for a certain category of people.

But beware that if you're going for a niche market like NTR, then even earning just 1-3k$ per month on Patreon is considered a "great success". That's the reality of the market, that's how much the "top developers" like Hangovercat earn, and you won't get there in a month or even a year. Honestly, if I wanted to earn $$$ as a h-game developer I'd stay away from straight NTR, making something more mainstream and then adding completely avoidable NTR as a bonus content and for my own satisfaction, I'd even add a "skip all NTR" option to not turn off an average player.
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maybe he wants to create a work that he's proud of, and his primary goal isnt to make money lol
 
stupid_army said:
A short review of Solgante DLC

Ah man... i was hoping balance portion between the three of them. And what i got was... Daston focused story again , hahaha.

I ain't complaining Daston exta story, his part the best and raunchy one ofcourse. But for other two, it was kinda letdown . If you're Harry fans, his extra DLC story events are pretty hot. But some are just like rehash of his previous ero event. Naji extra events was .... IDK kinda weird i guess, it has a bit inconsistency with Naji personality part. In thr base game ending , he aint an innocent boy anymore, but in his DLC he act like a virgin. It was Eleanor who being dominant for his DLC ero events.

  • Eleanor ordered to service her subordinates by Harry, it was hot as fuck!
  • The restaurant ero event on Harry extra also full of debauchery, this one was the one where Eleanor doesn't feels awkward to humiliate and betrayed her husband
  • I was really disappointed with Harry event in mecha cockpit with Eleanor. He didn't event trying to roleplaying when fuck her in there. What a wssted potential
  • Naji two simulation event was hot, it's finally granted my wish to see Naji cockpit ero event. But his pool ero event was meh. I wish it was three simulation events instead pool event
  • Like i said this DLC was more focused on Duston story. All of his events was fresh , hot, and unique. Ofcourse all chained events for the new rubber suits was hot as fuck. Two new battle events from this part also my favorite. The banquet sex events was the one that i find it meh
  • Outside those new suit events, i love the bukkake gangbang makeup event on Duston route. It was hot AF! I can't wait to play with uncensored mod. Also Duston clothed paizuri event deserve recognition. That scene was short but effectively sexy! Much better than Naji's pool event.
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I have seen CG of Solgante DLC on exhentai. There are "happy ending" that I am interesting when her got pregnant. Who is the curpit?
I already download v.1.9 but the pregnancy ending at 2.0. Now I have wait for someone upload it.
 
Darkwings said:
I have seen CG of Solgante DLC on exhentai. There are "happy ending" that I am interesting when her got pregnant. Who is the curpit?
I already download v.1.9 but the pregnancy ending at 2.0. Now I have wait for someone upload it.
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There's a choice for Naji route, if you choose to make Eleanor to only close with you, the baby hair color will match with player character hair color.
 
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