I'll show you mine if you show me yours! Females Only!!!

[FAMAS]

I think the maker of this thread is dead

I came back from the dead.

 

[aexiel]

meh.. won't bother going into this discussion. I'm just passing by spamming where I can.

 

[Ghost Kitty~]

After you? I doubt he knows you~

Sure others dont take reasonable risks but that doesnt mean we shouldnt ;p

Hmm quite the twisted education youre getting Did you get tossed into an all guy's school or something and now crave the sight of a female? Our community is already unified and i dont see how this would serve much purpose at all~ If you want decent technical data then go and take a class first Just beware when i say that art class might take the appeal of a nude figure from you ;p

 

[~SnowAngel~]

(wowww seems to be getting a little too much here x-x)

ummm i had something to say a long time ago~ didn't really post it yet sooo anyway :P

(any guys feel free to relate your thoughts on this example~)


Say you have girlfriend that you really like, and she likes you back just as much. :P
But then some guy talks to her without you knowing and says something like "I'll show you my body if you show me yours."
What would you think/feel if you found out she was considering that?

Let's say you were married, and the same thing happened. Would that make you feel any different?

Even if someone is single, you would be taking something special from someone else who truly holds the girl's heart. First time things mean alot in a relationship. (holding hands, kisses, intimacy, etc?) So wouldn't it be wrong to do that for a temporary desire?

I wouldn't lower myself where just anyone is okay. It's almost like every girl has a right to be the first for her man. It makes her feel special when you wait like that. Wouldn't you feel special if your relationship had alot of first times?


I've been single for a few years~ not because I'm not lovable, it's because whoever deserves me deserves the best of me :P
Even though I've been in a couple relationships, I still had boundaries in it. I'm glad I never gave away my kiss, because I want it to be for someone I truly love. They would also have alot of firsts with me~ We had this one couple who had been dating for 6 years, both in their 20's by the time they were engaged. They had their parents involved in the relationship, and never held hands til they were engaged. The day of their wedding was their first kiss XD sooo it was a really good encouragement for lots of people here.


I don't want someone to fall for me because of one thing about me, or because I did them a favor. I don't want to hurt people by helping their temptations either. I know it's tough being a guy sometimes because of that struggle~ I've even heard that it gets worse later in life or marriage >.< If you can keep out of those temptations, you'd be someone valuable to a girl someday, because finding people that stay out of bad things is hard these days :/ If you keep improving yourself, I promise you'll find someone worth waiting for~ :P

 

[Hanagai]

Say you have girlfriend that you really like, and she likes you back just as much.
But then some guy talks to her without you knowing and says something like "I'll show you my body if you show me yours."
What would you think/feel if you found out she was considering that?

Spoiler: think, feel huh

 

[Kasumi]

Risks are not always taken at a reasonable extent. Take for instance using your cell phone while driving. It is more dangerous that drinking and driving because your eyes are off the road (if your texting) yet, a lot of people actively do it or have done it. Why? Was the text message that important? Was someone hurt? No, it was probably to reply to a stupid text message like "What's up?" or something of that kind. It also endangers the life of many other drivers as well the person doing it.

It’s just to show that, even though you are not aware of it, most people do take foolish risks like I expect them to. You just cannot identify them as high risks but they are still very much risky. Are you telling me you never used your cell phone while driving? Regardless of your answer, my point still resides.

It is you who doesn't seem to understand the meaning of the word "contradiction". This is how they fall into conjunction. I am unifying the people of this community. During this event, I will be gathering information which will serve to educate and provide me with technical data. This is how they are legitimately related.

That's your opinion.

No it doesn't. He has no balls now and that makes me sad.

You managed to completely miss the point. I am speechless. With that line of debate, you are actually disagreeing with yourself.

But eh, whatever.

Yes, that was the point.

 

[FAMAS]

You managed to completely miss the point. I am speechless. With that line of debate, you are actually disagreeing with yourself.

But eh, whatever.

Yes, that was the point.

Basically what I was saying was that you take foolish risk all the time without knowing it and this would be no different. (Since your opinion of my request is foolish.) Then I gave you an example of that.

(wowww seems to be getting a little too much here x-x)

ummm i had something to say a long time ago~ didn't really post it yet sooo anyway :P

(any guys feel free to relate your thoughts on this example~)


Say you have girlfriend that you really like, and she likes you back just as much. :P
But then some guy talks to her without you knowing and says something like "I'll show you my body if you show me yours."
What would you think/feel if you found out she was considering that?

Let's say you were married, and the same thing happened. Would that make you feel any different?

Even if someone is single, you would be taking something special from someone else who truly holds the girl's heart. First time things mean alot in a relationship. (holding hands, kisses, intimacy, etc?) So wouldn't it be wrong to do that for a temporary desire?

I wouldn't lower myself where just anyone is okay. It's almost like every girl has a right to be the first for her man. It makes her feel special when you wait like that. Wouldn't you feel special if your relationship had alot of first times?


I've been single for a few years~ not because I'm not lovable, it's because whoever deserves me deserves the best of me :P
Even though I've been in a couple relationships, I still had boundaries in it. I'm glad I never gave away my kiss, because I want it to be for someone I truly love. They would also have alot of firsts with me~ We had this one couple who had been dating for 6 years, both in their 20's by the time they were engaged. They had their parents involved in the relationship, and never held hands til they were engaged. The day of their wedding was their first kiss XD sooo it was a really good encouragement for lots of people here.


I don't want someone to fall for me because of one thing about me, or because I did them a favor. I don't want to hurt people by helping their temptations either. I know it's tough being a guy sometimes because of that struggle~ I've even heard that it gets worse later in life or marriage >.< If you can keep out of those temptations, you'd be someone valuable to a girl someday, because finding people that stay out of bad things is hard these days :/ If you keep improving yourself, I promise you'll find someone worth waiting for~ :P

The emotional type ehh. Except you're probably even more so. That explains the bunnies as well as the display picture.

Dating someone for 6 YEARS and never holding hands! That's like the worst thing.
Might as well be friends.

I don't know what you mean by "special" but nonetheless, I see your point.
I guess... I won't be needing pictures (for now!) unless someone insists.

 

[Hanagai]

Fine. i'll show you

Spoiler: nyan

 

[~SnowAngel~]

there's a saying I made up~ :P I'd rather wait 1000 years for the right person than go through 1000 heartbreaks.

There's alot to know about relationships. and girls think of the long-term stuff more often than guys might. (stable finances, parenting, how much you'd get along, etc??) We want to know if their emotions are just fluff, or they really mean it. (soo some might do things like test your loyalty, ask things, idk there's lots XD)

There's a high divorce rate in usa since the 1960's, which is when dating away from parents was introduced. Guys had to get through the girl's father before he was allowed to meet with her. If a person is only thinking about how they feel in a relationship, they won't be happy later on. Relationships is more than just good feelings, it's learning to deal with the bad things too. Every married couple has their trouble, you can ask any married person that. The way to being happy with that person is for both to be selfless. which means that you care about the other person more than yourself. Doing that is probly one of the biggest things you need in a relationship. If you only think about how the other person can please you, it'll never be enough. I had a relationship like this before~ I was wanting to know the person more, and didn't hold back on showing effection. The problem tho was that they didn't want to talk about their past, and the person kept our relationship hidden from their parents. They seemed so empty, and it felt dry being around them. It's like everything we felt was just hype, because we both weren't trying to make it work. When their mom found out, it ended, and the person started attacking me with words. They tried to get our friends against me, but had nothing they could blame me with. (i still tried to find fault with myself x-x). I went through alot after that.. if it weren't for my friends being involved with us, I probly wouldn't be alive right now x-x. sooo I kept trying to make up. We eventually did after a year :P I can look at this as a good experience, because I've learned alot and can tell other people sometimes :P

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fyi, the picture above is an example of anatomy :P you might take anatomy and physiology someday, which is important to know something about.

 

[Ghost Kitty~]

Hmm but you learn from the heart breaks? Though you really should know fairly well if it would work or not by the time you get to 1000 ;p

Hiding relationships... that doesnt sound like it would help much of anything...

 

[FAMAS]

there's a saying I made up~ :P I'd rather wait 1000 years for the right person than go through 1000 heartbreaks.

There's alot to know about relationships. and girls think of the long-term stuff more often than guys might. (stable finances, parenting, how much you'd get along, etc??) We want to know if their emotions are just fluff, or they really mean it. (soo some might do things like test your loyalty, ask things, idk there's lots XD)

There's a high divorce rate in usa since the 1960's, which is when dating away from parents was introduced. Guys had to get through the girl's father before he was allowed to meet with her. If a person is only thinking about how they feel in a relationship, they won't be happy later on. Relationships is more than just good feelings, it's learning to deal with the bad things too. Every married couple has their trouble, you can ask any married person that. The way to being happy with that person is for both to be selfless. which means that you care about the other person more than yourself. Doing that is probly one of the biggest things you need in a relationship. If you only think about how the other person can please you, it'll never be enough. I had a relationship like this before~ I was wanting to know the person more, and didn't hold back on showing effection. The problem tho was that they didn't want to talk about their past, and the person kept our relationship hidden from their parents. They seemed so empty, and it felt dry being around them. It's like everything we felt was just hype, because we both weren't trying to make it work. When their mom found out, it ended, and the person started attacking me with words. They tried to get our friends against me, but had nothing they could blame me with. (i still tried to find fault with myself x-x). I went through alot after that.. if it weren't for my friends being involved with us, I probly wouldn't be alive right now x-x. sooo I kept trying to make up. We eventually did after a year :P I can look at this as a good experience, because I've learned alot and can tell other people sometimes :P

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fyi, the picture above is an example of anatomy :P you might take anatomy and physiology someday, which is important to know something about.

It seems that you know quite a lot about relationships.

But 'getting' would speed up the process much faster than 'waiting', wouldn't it? At least that's what I think.

You need to remember that it's not everyone that can be as open as you appear to be. Some were definitely not raised the same way as you were and their past may be much 'darker' than you'd think.

Also, if you don't mind me asking, around what age are you? You were talking about them keeping your relationship hidden from their parents. I don't get it. That only happens at a young age.

"Wouldn't be alive right now." - Hmm.

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I didn't know that.

 

[Hanagai]

Man, i got so mutch to show you~

Spoiler: damn

Spoiler: damn2

 

[~SnowAngel~]

(please don't quote this, you really don't have to XD)

I've had some friends that rushed in relationships~ I learned more than they did since I was able to see outside the box. (being in a relationship seems to put blinders on you. x-x I had that experience too~ XD) I also learned from the couple I told you about. They were some youth teachers I had a long time ago, and talked about lots of stuff like why wait.

There's people that really go for the dating idea. Some is with a different person every week or so x-x. Once they actually marry someone, they'd do the same thing. (divorce ;~;) Doing something like that makes you not fully trust someone. You can also withhold your trust by not being personal (which is what happened in my relationship. I did know about them enough, and they knew they could trust me, but they didn't know if they liked me or someone else.)

Waiting shows guys/girls that not just anyone is good enough for you. Image a girl that goes out with a guy every two weeks, them dumps them for some reason. What would you think if she started flirting with you, thinking that she loves you? If you wait long enough, you'll know if you really love that person or not. Love isn't about the hype of emotions, remember? It's about going through everything and staying together no matter what. If your girlfriend is upset with you, would you value her more than the problem? I did that in my relationship, I tried over and again to keep us together even if it were hopeless. It's not that I was desperate or anything, it showed that I cared for them. I'm pretty sure it went bad because everything went fast XD
Even when a confession of mine to someone was turned down, we became good friends :)

There's lots more good reasons to wait~ a few short books I could find and tell you about too :P Having a relationship means more time with them. You'll want to do things together right? It might cost a little money for that. Guys and girls also think of their relationship differently. (even though this can be a stereotype: guys might base it on what they know about each other, girls may think about how they feel about each other). The foundations of the relationship is also important. Why do you want to be with this person? Alot of guys base in on physical appearance at first. Girls might base it on how the guy made them feel at a certain time. If these foundations aren't met, they breakup. (I could say more about foundations later maybe~ it realy is a big deal x-x)

Two of my friends liked each other for a few years. We were all close, and they were happy together just fine, but then the girl felt that something wasn't right. I can't remember what it was, but it had to do with God telling her something, which most of the people around her agreed with. Soo she just wanted to wait, but both of them ended up finding different people shortly after. x-x

Why do you think she would leave someone that made her happy? They were kissing, holding hands, etc. They didn't wait for any of it. Their relationship had a foundation of different things. x-x There were a few things that the guy couldn't do for the girl, her expectations were high as a sky scraper XD (trying not to get into more details~)

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soo let me ask~ if a person really loved you, would they care about what's been done? Some people would (ex: a girl had a child). A mature, loving guy would take care of that child as if it were his own, while the real father just abandoned her. Sooo take this idea with dating. If a guy made a girl pregnant (with emotions~ not a real child XD) how would she feel if he left her? What would you think of the guy?


hmmm another idea for you~ You'll be spending most if not the rest of your life with this person. Shouldn't you know enough about them before getting married? XD What if you learned some things about them, and found out you didn't like them? You would be hurting yourself and that person for not waiting.

I know I don't sound very convincing, but you really should try learning more about waiting. (see what works or what doesn't for you~) I like the idea of courting. I wouldn't completely follow it, but the base level I would. :P

 

[Ghost Kitty~]

Well everyone has their share of troubles and the views vary depending on the person... usually people feel more stable if they were more open online (nothing to lose or less anyway) People raised differently... well yes everyone can be argued to have been raised differently... even twins have differences...

 

[Kasumi]

Pity I can't say what I really wanted to say. All I can say is that I've lost count of the number of facepalms I've done.

 

[~SnowAngel~]

Pity I can't say what I really wanted to say. All I can say is that I've lost count of the number of facepalms I've done.

Guys have it tough going through puberty til a girl sets them straight~
unless they refuse to learn x-x

 

[Shir0]

people still discuss this topic? don't you have anything better to do? LOL

 

[FAMAS]

Now I get it. I think it has to do with something about, over accelerated development hinders your maximum potential. If you become too good or climb too high too fast, your maximum potential will be much lower than if the rise was slower. Or perhaps I don't know what I'm saying. Maybe Kasumi would know, well, do you?

So I guess there is some good in waiting or possibly taking it slow.

people still discuss this topic? don't you have anything better to do? LOL

No.

Pity I can't say what I really wanted to say. All I can say is that I've lost count of the number of facepalms I've done.

Woman, I'll kill you!

MURDER YOU!!!

 

[Cenco]

Whoa this thread seems to have taken a turn...

So, is all hope gone or are people still looking out for photos?
What would you do if someone posted some random freaky old lady (as a spoiler) but it was with really good camera and photo quality?

 

[~SnowAngel~]

So I guess there is some good in waiting or possibly taking it slow.

you're getting the idea now~

here's another saying i made up :P (well.. it's longer but still XD)

soo you know that food is harvested right? you plant seeds, take care of it, and wait til the right season to harvest it. Waiting gives you the most benefit out of the plants. (more seeds, more nutrition, etc?). Harvesting it too early means you won't see a harvest of that plant next year, it's too small, no color, annnd all that~ XD

Sooo you can apply this idea to many things. Starting a relationship is like planting a seed. Taking care of it makes your relationship grow. Trying to harvest too early makes it die, and you can't plant something else to keep the relationship going.
Where you plant also matters. (rocks, weeds, sand, soil, etc?). Think of it as the foundation of your relationship, or your hearts. Some could be temporary and run out of nutrition. Some doesn't have any. Sooo there's times when we have to make changes to ourselves to allow the relationship to grow. (keep in mind that it takes both people to make it work~ I could be the water while the other person is the sunshine).


Even if you're waiting, you could be preparing yourself to be ready for things to go faster. (I know some people get married a year after meeting XD). Learning about some things you have to do in life makes you more mature in a relationship. Without these skills, you might have a stressful time at first since no one knows how to do anything XD. I mean for example: what if neither of you know how to cook? It's far more expensive to eat out all the time, and is very unhealthy. Even then, what happens when one of you are sick? The other has to take care of the house, any children, etc~ while it sounds like alot of trouble, doing those things for each other really grows your relationship :P You can even do that before you're married. Lots of times, people see who someone really is after the first year of marriage, because it was all at home! soooo what happens when you spend time with them in a family type of way? More character of them shows up~ people often put on their good side when with that special person. Soo how do they act around other people? :3 How they treat their parents is often how they'd treat their spouse. (same for siblings too~).


nooww I'm pretty sure you don't know much about how girls think right? I might have something for you if you're interested x-x it'll have to wait for when i have time tho XD

 

[Kasumi]

Woman, I'll kill you!

MURDER YOU!!!

I'd like to see you try. :D

 

[Ghost Kitty~]

Whoa this thread seems to have taken a turn...

So, is all hope gone or are people still looking out for photos?
What would you do if someone posted some random freaky old lady (as a spoiler) but it was with really good camera and photo quality?

Thats what i expected to happen at some point or another ;p

Hmm maximum potential... well thats sort of like people who have natural talent and people who worked hard to get their skills~ In the end the hard worker can possibly match the person with more natural talent because that talent might make them lazy in the long run but if they have talent and they can get much further~ But having that talent might make it so they dont have strong basics and that may be their downfall unless they went and fixed that~ The hard worker will rise at a steady pace as long as they continue working hard but as they were slower they might also have had more time to strengthen everything overall~ Its kind of like how some people get out of uni and get a somewhat higher level job... they wont know how it is like to work in a lower position so they will be somewhat uninformed... but for those who work their way up from the bottom, they will know although that isnt always a good thing either~ They might base all their decisions off their experience which may or may not be the same as everyone elses and times change... theyll need to adapt...

 

[FAMAS]

I guess that's another way of explaining it.

Patience is a virtue you could say.

The consideration of other ehh.

Thats what i expected to happen at some point or another ;p

Hmm maximum potential... well thats sort of like people who have natural talent and people who worked hard to get their skills~ In the end the hard worker can possibly match the person with more natural talent because that talent might make them lazy in the long run but if they have talent and they can get much further~ But having that talent might make it so they dont have strong basics and that may be their downfall unless they went and fixed that~ The hard worker will rise at a steady pace as long as they continue working hard but as they were slower they might also have had more time to strengthen everything overall~ Its kind of like how some people get out of uni and get a somewhat higher level job... they wont know how it is like to work in a lower position so they will be somewhat uninformed... but for those who work their way up from the bottom, they will know although that isnt always a good thing either~ They might base all their decisions off their experience which may or may not be the same as everyone elses and times change... theyll need to adapt...

Pretty much.