Mafia Game 4: Choose Your Own Theme Edition

[Hinode]

[MENTION=28026]Selvaria Bles[/MENTION]; I wonder how many that would tell you...

 

[Selvaria Bles]

cheating always hasn't been a problem, so far

but from judging how some people are behaving and the comments.

I think its time to take action

infa that means you will have to be the judge and make a decision to modkill or not.

 

[Hinode]

I can admit that i'm the kind of person who would cheat in a singleplayer game if i can't get past a specific area. I've never cheated in a multiplayer game. I'll leave it to Infamous, let's hope that he has enough evidence so he won't execute an innocent.

 

[Selvaria Bles]

btw I have guidelines for those who want to host a mafia game

so they have to be followed....

meaning if you want to host please do what is stated in the main page...

 

[Ghost Kitty~]

State the rules and guidelines? If they think something is cheating then ask the host first?

Well i like complicated games =w= The more complication and thinking i can do the better it is~ The first game was still imbalanced imo considering how there was basically no possible way to actually kill a mafia even if we lynched... *cough overpowered abilities cough*

 

[Hinode]

[MENTION=8332]samyeung46[/MENTION]; From my perspective: There are no rules so people can "cheat" freely. If you add rules people would just ignore them. If people only intend to cheat on this i'd rather spend my time getting aimbotted on mw3/bf3 since the matches end more quickly there.

 

[Ghost Kitty~]

The rules were never specified thus the reason why people did otherwise... if you post a spoiler with the general rules then theyll actually have a reason to not do certain actions? Where is you basis for people ignoring the rules? Theyre just here to enjoy the game as well...

 

[Hinode]

[MENTION=8332]samyeung46[/MENTION]; Every game got cheaters in it. There's always one who cheats at least. I join this game for now, if I get word of someone cheating i'll leave this game immediatly, no matter if i'm a civ or a mafia. Either people just ignore the rules or else there is no way to know all the rules, i could read the 3rd game's first page over and over and still not find any restrictions to what you can do.

 

[Ghost Kitty~]

Well you cant exactly call people cheaters if there is no rule against what theyre doing =.= If its questionable then bring it up to the host and have them make the call...

 

[Hinode]

[MENTION=8332]samyeung46[/MENTION]; Still... it's cheating from my perspective of view. It doesn't have to be called cheating to you. Am i supposed to blame the host for cheating instead then for not telling me everything? Every game deserves a detailed explanation to how you play it. The thing that flipped me over was that someone told me that you can help the civs to guess who the mafia is even if you're dead. And i got told about that after the entire game ended? Well, thank you.

Going afk for 1 hour, don't expect an answer right away.

 

[Ghost Kitty~]

Well its mostly just that theyre not part of the game after they die so it doesnt benefit them? Could still discuss whatever if they want They have no more knowledge than whatever the civilians can get so there really isnt anything more for them? They wont win~ They wont get a prize~ The only thing they have over every other player is that their role is revealed already so there is no question to which side they were on although who knows if they might decide to go help the other side randomly or not Basically there was no rule against talking about the game even for the dead people... they just couldnt do so in the game thread~

 

[Hinode]

It still pisses me off that i don't get to know these kind of things until the end of the game.

 

[Ghost Kitty~]

Well weib did say that you could continue talking in the other thread? :/ Last breath for those who died then push em off... not that it worked that well or imo has any use anyway~

 

[MadSova]

Okay... [MENTION=38786]Hinode[/MENTION], you speak of cheaters, but tell me, who do you think cheated in the 3rd game? Monjster who Pmed everyone? If he didn't, the game would have become a guessing game just as you said before. Me deceiving you into believing that I'm a civilian? I think that's just the right course of action for any mafia member...

[MENTION=8332]Samye[/MENTION] and [MENTION=28026]Selvaria[/MENTION], are the rules I posted on the 16th page not too difficult?

[MENTION=40801]infamous[/MENTION] I don't mind.

 

[Hinode]

[MENTION=13039]MadSova[/MENTION]; I told sammy that my definition of cheating doesn't have to be the same as his and i'll say the same to you. I never really got everything entirely explained to me. An example is the thing about giving people hints on who you think are the mafia even though your dead. I wouldn't been able to figure that out on my own because that makes no damn sense whatsoever. So to please you i'll instead say that I feel that i've been cheated on. Better?

I started with complaining about rules and you were the one who took me to this subject by telling me that people would cheat if rules were added. Therefore i suppose that i ain't entirely wrong if i tell that people here are cheaters even if they haven't done something yet? I don't have any idéa of who that would cheat, but from what you told me i would believe that someone would, right?

 

[Infamous]

mommy, daddy, stop fighting!!!

 

[Hinode]

[MENTION=40801]infamous[/MENTION]; You're not my child, so no.

 

[Infamous]

yeah i was just jokin around cause i see you guys arguing. how long have you guys been going at it?

 

[Hinode]

[MENTION=40801]infamous[/MENTION]; Too long for just being a personal opinion.

 

[MadSova]

Maybe everyone wouldn't, maybe someone would... I never said that there is a 100% chance that someone would cheat... I just meant that if there are no rules at all then everyone is on equal grounds, unlike if someone cheated and someone not... Honestly, I thought some would cheat in previous game by going around and PMing everyone who might be mafia members after they died, or writing it in the other thread. But no one did cheat. So we can always add those rules and modkill everyone who breaks them. If that someone breaks them after he is dead we just forbid them from participating in next MG. Simple as that.

Also. The 3rd game was just too unbalanced. L2 (Nanashi) gave away himself too fast thus was killed by us. And L1 (Monjster) went around telling people to vote for civilians thus turning everyone's eyes on him and making it easy for us to use. Then your team just followed my plans as I wanted and thus we achieved flawless victory. But none have cheated... You know, every time you are killed in the game against someone too powerful where you have almost no chances to win, you feel like you have been cheated on... It's like getting a russian your team ;p

It's not that much of an arguing as a simple discussion of game balance...

 

[Infamous]

by definition it actually is arguing, but whatever. as long as you don't go to far with it it's fine. just hug it out guys!

 

[MadSova]

I don't want to hug Hinode with his current Ava...

 

[Hinode]

[MENTION=13039]MadSova[/MENTION]; Fine then. I'll leave it at that. I will leave this game immediatly if I get to hear that somebody is cheating when the game finally starts. It feels like it would be best to just leave instead of attempting to argue about it. Other people would just protect that person anyways.

 

[MadSova]

Although I still know only one thing that you think of as cheating... But no one even did that yet you go around telling that cheaters are all around us... Even though I am kinda part of the blame for that...

 

[Hinode]

[MENTION=13039]MadSova[/MENTION]; I'm sorry. Let's say that what i meant from the beginning was that i felt cheated on since i didn't know that the main rule was "everything goes". I just had a hard time to explain it with proper English.