TB's Marina Fan Project "Marina Case of the Queen" Official Thread

[GreatClown]

I have been following this thread for months without ever commenting, but here I am now. I am sure there are many more in my situation, these threads always have many many lurkers for every one person you see replying. Believe me when I tell you a lot more people than you imagine are looking forward to this project.

About the "mystery" NTR with no new art, I think that as long as you clearly disclaim and make it very clear before the game begins you'll be safe. Just make sure people are completely warned beforehand and don't expect new original artwork.

This should be a given, how can anyone expect you to magically pull new artwork out of your sleeve and put it into a free fan-project? Artwork is way too expensive, the problem is that people are willing to pay so much for it...

I think off-screen NTR is often much hotter anyway because it lets your imagination (and the MC's) run wild, that is, when it is well made. Maybe give us a preview or two of the text so we can give you our first impressions and feedback.

Off screen NTR has the potential of being extremely hot, especially if you figure out ways of making it work properly. I'm thinking it might be tricky to have parts like when you watch Marina's POV in the original games, and you find out she told some lies in her report (like finding out she was doing it bareback and with creampies since day 1 for example). That was the hottest part of the game for me, and I hope you make something like that in your game as well.

If you bring back the Marina reporting on the cheating like the first three games then you are probably off to a good start. You just need to really nail her character, of course, with her very strong and particular personality, which made us all fans of her. This will probably be the most critical part of the project, and where I think you might want to get lots of fan feedback beforehand.

I'm quite excited for this, mainly because I'm very curious about how it will look and work (I've never seen a fan project like this actually coming to life).

If you need help I'm sure many people here are willing to help you, there are probably talented writers around here (I very much include myself in that, so hit me up if you want me to review some of the text and give you my advise!).

All in all I wish you best of luck on this project and I'm eager to hear more about its progress.

 

[progste]

Artwork is way too expensive, the problem is that people are willing to pay so much for it...

Artowork (especially of good quality) costs a lot because it requires a lot of hard work, not because people are willing to pay too much.

 

[Animefan_09]

Artowork (especially of good quality) costs a lot because it requires a lot of hard work, not because people are willing to pay too much.

I don't know, taking a look at pantreons i am dissapointed by how much money people pay for some drawings while others (translations, original writing, games, etc) receive so much less money even though they have more quality and contend.

Here is an example https://www.patreon.com/user?u=3523924 this is a highly sucessfull patreon dedicated to writing, but is still too little taking into account the amount of contend (the story has been up for years and is roughly 4 books long) and the time is been up, some artist get 5 times more for 1 drawing per month and haven't been active so long =S

 

[Oushaku]

Personally I don't care too much about new CGs, off-screen sex and lies are better in my opinion (I can't understand why people likes the "loved one" POV in NTR games, not judging ofc, I just can't understand).... I would love to see the daughter being part of the story tho. I'm not a lolicon fan but I have allways thought that when side characters (people that are close to MC) that looks like they are not suppoused to be part of the plot suddenly, and close to the end, they are, making the ED more brutal
E.g. The daugther in "Tsuma no Niku Ana ni Homestay ....", the Mother in "NTR Kanojo wa Ijimerarekko...", the daugther in "Sexless Fuufu ga Seikaihatsu...." the imouto in "Osananajimi ga Me no Mae de Hoka..." <kinda of. And I'll stop here, I think that I have expressed my point.

 

[progste]

Well, i was talking more about commissioned art, patreon is a different beast.

 

[mrecchiman]

@Tentacle Bandit

This project is obviously time consuming but most followers would probably agree they don't mind being patient if the final result is to your satisfaction.

Completely up to you (since it's your project after all) but if you think it would improve the game (and therefore possibly take more time) maybe consider the following?

You previously said you would use files from other AS games (e.g. music, backgrounds) since they all take place in the same universe which adds more variety and freedom to this project.

I recently played Relaxation Yuubi ~Anata Dake no Himitsu no Iyashi~ (Herencia game) and I was reminded of how similar the female character Miho looks like Marina.

Turns out Gentle Sasaki is the artist (same as the Marina games)

Unless you rewrote some of your script to include why Marina is wearing that particular uniform (massage therapist unless it's cosplay or something) you could simplify the work instead by only using 3 specific scenes

- One scene where there's paizuri and she's completely nude
https://exhentai.org/g/1245285/855d15b627/?p=3

- Second scene where there's sex on a bed

- Third scene where there's oral sex in the bathroom
https://exhentai.org/g/1245285/855d15b627/?p=4

Issues to consider however are:

- Miho's lips are more prominent than Marina's lips
- Her eye color is different
- Her hairstyle is also different

You could recolor her eyes (sounds complicated though or maybe it isn't?)

If you don't you could take a page from Marina 2 where these scenes are from a video recording and you could just black box her eyes (that thing in AV used to hide the woman's identity)

e.g. https://exhentai.org/s/2db271b374/801262-221


As for why her hairstyle is different it could be explained that Marina decided to change her look near the end of the story (as many women in hentai often do to please their new lover or master)

As for the lips, if you want to keep things realistic you could explain that she got lip fillers/injections to make her more slutty (like many women IRL do)

Of course instead of using the voice recordings by Yui Sakakibara (voice of Miho) you'd use archive sound from past Marina games of Riku Kobato (voice of Marina)


If you dislike these suggestions no offense taken. Just wanted to mention them now if you were unaware of Relaxation Yuubi's existence and later on wished you could've included some of it in your game when it's already finished.

 

[dumuarte]

I'd love to see Marina with Kenji's father or someone related close with them. Like in Netoraserare. that feeling is unbearable.

 

[Animefan_09]

Ok, your mention fo short stories made me curious, have you published them soemwhere on the net? where?

Respond with a PM if youdon't want to make it public or something plz.

 

[dumuarte]

I'd like to read your short stories as well, can I?

 

[stupid_army]

Bi-Weekly Status - August 1

So first, I'd like to thank everybody for your kind words of encouragement this week. I understand this thread has a lot of views, so when I am done it will be nice to know people checking aren't just waiting to see new CG but a game driven by story. Yes obviously I will be including visual cues and scenes, but this story is very much from Kenji's pov like the first game.


Next I want to address apparently some confusion I've noted in the last few posts about the status of this project. I'd first like to clarify that the script is finished, I know how the game starts and I know its endings. So this isn't an issue of "whats the story". I truly appreciate the suggestions though, but that part is well and done.

Whats slowing me down are 3 things.

1. Real life, my RL job during the spring-summer months is off the walls busy. I don't get a lot of down time and what I do is shared between social life, sleeping and a bit of gaming. On top of that I'm also writing short stories and making this game. So my time is stretched, hence the slow progress.

2. Inventory and trigger dialogs, if this story was straight forward A to B - putting it together would be SO much easier. However because I've filled it with tons of variables based on your choices that influence Marina, each one of those leads to new choices. Basically its a butterfly effect and I need to account for all of them during ALL points of the story where they might be relevant. This is a very long and annoying process, mostly because I'm a little OCD. I don't regret this decision though.

What I wanted was a way to influence Marina with various outcomes based on a fantasy that your trying to role play now instead of actual doing - that begins to blur lines.

3. Wardrobe design and sound, ok to be fair I've been putting sound off for a while. Music is easy, already in game more or less. Voice cues however, they will be the last thing I do because I need to clip Marina voice samples to fit certain scenes like coming home to her cheerful greetings and thats a royal pain! As for wardrobe its almost done.

On that note I thought I'd share a design sketch of Marina's sports outfit. PLS NOTE this is a design sketch, not a finished product. Something we cooked up while we bounced ideas around for what her outfit could look like. I wanted share it with you, as a small preview. It is NOT final in any sense of the word. Its a design sketch.

So I hope this update explains things a little better and gives followers something more to look forward to!

Click the image below to see the development sketch.

Damn, love that sport bra design. Please finishing it, I really love it <3 !

 

[dumuarte]

I probably asking at the wrong place, but just out of curiosity, who is bigger between Kenji and Hiroto?

If i'm not mistaken, Marina told Kenji that Hiroto is perhaps slightly bigger and harder than him, but how much different?

 

[NTRWolf]

I thought that Marina said Kenji was slightly bigger, not Hiroto.
I could be wrong

 

[dumuarte]

I could be wrong too. Well, I was hoping Kenji is smaller than Hiroto.

 

[Tentacle Bandit]

I could be wrong too. Well, I was hoping Kenji is smaller than Hiroto.

No Hiroto wasn't bigger, Marina commented that he was harder though but this had more to do with youth. Marina never made a point about any of her lovers being huge to Kenji, the AV actor Kouichi from the second game I suppose "overwhelmed" her senses by his sexual "power" or skill and I think was bigger then any other lover she had but it wasn't played up for Kenji.

Hiroto was actually pretty average as a lover, what he had going for him was stamina and youth - plus a rock hard cock per his age.

This might have to do more with the theme of the Marina series 1-3 where Kenji was more interested in Marina having sex with other men while he waited for her report after - he never focused on her being with a bigger lover.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've actually noticed for a lot of NTR games/doujin/ect focus more on the theme of the wife with another man and the feelings that brings rather then the sexual details as part of it. The sexual details are meant more to excite the reader or player, but the characters in the most NTR games are focused more on the basic aspect of what NTR is.

Where I do find in a lot of "english" culture wife sharing, cuckolding, swinging, ect there is more focus on having the wife experience a "bigger" penis as the main aspect of sharing her. VS ntr which is the feeling associated with sharing or having your wife or lover stolen by another man.

Correct me if I'm wrong though, but thats one of the biggest differences I've noticed culturally with these "themes".

 

[stupid_army]

Bump, any updates??

 

[Cuck232]

Hi this marina series is my favorite ntr game i ever played,, any idea when marina 2, 3 and gaiden will get translated in english,,?? And this project is awesome,, my wet dream come true lol,, ^^^^:),, btw can u dm / email ( [email protected] ) me the story u write so far,, i really EXCITED to know someone out there share my interest in this series,,

 

[greenlittleman]

No Hiroto wasn't bigger, Marina commented that he was harder though but this had more to do with youth. Marina never made a point about any of her lovers being huge to Kenji, the AV actor Kouichi from the second game I suppose "overwhelmed" her senses by his sexual "power" or skill and I think was bigger then any other lover she had but it wasn't played up for Kenji.

Hiroto was actually pretty average as a lover, what he had going for him was stamina and youth - plus a rock hard cock per his age.

This might have to do more with the theme of the Marina series 1-3 where Kenji was more interested in Marina having sex with other men while he waited for her report after - he never focused on her being with a bigger lover.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've actually noticed for a lot of NTR games/doujin/ect focus more on the theme of the wife with another man and the feelings that brings rather then the sexual details as part of it. The sexual details are meant more to excite the reader or player, but the characters in the most NTR games are focused more on the basic aspect of what NTR is.

Where I do find in a lot of "english" culture wife sharing, cuckolding, swinging, ect there is more focus on having the wife experience a "bigger" penis as the main aspect of sharing her. VS ntr which is the feeling associated with sharing or having your wife or lover stolen by another man.

Correct me if I'm wrong though, but thats one of the biggest differences I've noticed culturally with these "themes".

In western porn there is no "real netorare" and cheating more focused on "cuckolding" which somehow different fetishes. What you said is main difference between netorare and cuckold. Cuckold is just masochistic enjoyment of feeling what you suck at sex and your wife or gf properly fucked by someone else. And netorare is emotional feeling of having your love stolen. Also in cuckold woman often slut from the start and she don't really loves her boyfriend or husband, treating him like "beta provider" rather than someone to whom she is emotionally attached.

 

[alwaysb86]

I love the idea, I had a couple of ideas for a sequel or two for Marina. I don't think we'll ever see it but they did take years to do a sequel to Please Bang My Wife so fingers crossed.

Both of my concepts really turned up the intensity for the games as they stand, which, other than the cheating and essential rape at the end of 3 are fairly vanilla.

Concept 1; Marina and Kenji have been living a a relatively normal maried life in the years since 3. They still play with Kenji's fetish but only by reminicing and asking what if? Still, they're happy. Saki is now in High School, she's looking more like a younger version of her mother than ever, she has the air of a class president/ track star. Quite a serious demenour. Recently it seems, she has a boyfriend. Kenji is conflicted is about this. His little girl is growing up.

One day Saki brings her BF home, he is handsome, polite and in shape (probably an athlete), Marina is quite smitten with him, perhaps even flirtatious at moments. As Kenji waits for dinner he realise's Saki has gone to her room with her boyfriend, he decides to check they aren't getting up to anything. As he approaches Saki's room he hears strange sounds. He pears round the slightly open door to see his naked daughter preforming oral sex on the well hung but embarrased looking boy. He feel's himself getting hard, not becaue of his daughter but his fetish, this guy is going to take his Saki away. He can't take his eyes away, and for a moment her thinks he see's Saki look at him. He ducks out of the way fully hard, when her dares to peep again it seems she is is working even harder. Marina wonders when everyone has gotten too she, finds Kenji and discovers the situation she's not very impressed.

Later that evening after the boy has been sent home, Marina summons Saki and Kenji. Before she can really tell her daughter off, Saki starts to play something on the TV. It's a video of Marina with another man. Kenji is filming, his voice can be heard. Marina is shocked, one of the her videos has been seen by her little girl. This is really where the game starts. There would be a vanilla path where Kenji and Marina put the past behind them. Alternativly there will be a path where Marina and Saki both use the High School guy to cuck Kenji. Resulting in various threesomes and hotel stays, beach trips etc. I'll write a bit more detail on these ideas later, along with my other concept.

 

[Animefan_09]

I love the idea, I had a couple of ideas for a sequel or two for Marina. I don't think we'll ever see it but they did take years to do a sequel to Please Bang My Wife so fingers crossed.

Both of my concepts really turned up the intensity for the games as they stand, which, other than the cheating and essential rape at the end of 3 are fairly vanilla.

Concept 1; Marina and Kenji have been living a a relatively normal maried life in the years since 3. They still play with Kenji's fetish but only by reminicing and asking what if? Still, they're happy. Saki is now in High School, she's looking more like a younger version of her mother than ever, she has the air of a class president/ track star. Quite a serious demenour. Recently it seems, she has a boyfriend. Kenji is conflicted is conflicted about this. His little girl is growing up.

Once day Saki brings her BF home, he is handsome, polite and in shape (probably an athlete), Marina is quite smitten with him, perhaps even flirtatious at moments. As Kenji waits for dinner he realise's Saki has gone to her room with her boyfriend, he decides to check they aren't getting up to anything. As he approaches Saki's room he hears strange sounds. He pears round the slightly open door to see his naked daughter preforming oral sex on the well hung but embarrased looking boy. He feel's himself getting hard, not becaue of his daughter but his fetish, this guy is going to take his Saki away. He can't take his eyes away, and for a moment her thinks he see's Saki look at him. He ducks out of the way fully hard, when her dares to peep again it seems she is is working even harder. Marina wonders when everyone has gotten too she, finds Kenji and discovers the situation she's not very impressed.

Later that evening after the boy has been sent home, Marina summons Saki and Kenji. Before she can really tell her daughter off Saki starts to play something on the TV. It's a video of Marina, with another man. Kenji is filming, his voice can be heard. Marina is shocked, one of the her videos has been seend by her little girl. This is really where the game starts. There would be a vanilla path where Kenji and Marina put the past behind them. Alternativly there will be a path where Marina and Saki both use the High School guy to cuck Kenji. Resulting in various threesomes and hotel stays, beach trips etc. I'll write a bit more detail in these ideas later, along with my other concept.

Source of your avatar?

 

[alwaysb86]

Source of your avatar?

It happens during Closet. I suggest starting with '0' although I think that came out second.

My second concept for another Marina game;

Kenji and Marina are happily maried it's been a while since the events of '3' and they have both moved on. Kenji still has the fetish, but it's not worth lossing Marina over. Marina on the other hand is coming to realise she misses it. The game would start with almost the inverse of the first game, Marina has to get the courage to ask Kenji. In the end they agree, but no one either of them knows can be involved and Kenji get's to set the rules.

From here you get to make various choices;

1. Marina has to pick up the guy in a bar. 2. She has to pick him up by posting online.
1. She has to find two guys. 2. She has to go with Kenjo to a swingers club (though he doesnt want anything for himself)
1. Multiple guys (at least 4) Gangbang. 2. Bukkake party.
1. Only anal. 2. Only outdoor sex.
1. she works as a hooker for a weekend. 2. She works in a soap land.

Etc.

I understand this would be a big change for what the games were (vanilla), however if they are going to make more it would need to add something new. I think either of the ideas do that, neither are the way I think they will go.

 

[stupid_army]

Where is Tentacle bandit :( ?

 

[Bigboat]

Good to hear, thank you for your hard work.

 

[alwaysb86]

I'm around, project is currently waiting on artwork which has gone through a lot of revisions. Can't really do much now without the artwork since its needed for character dialog. Game has been on hold since Sept I know, but I certainly have not forgotten or abandoned this project.

Any chance you can tease us with an example of the altered CG's you have planned?

 

[Animefan_09]

Sorry sorry, I know I said I was gonna post some plots. Got distracted playing Farm Simulator 2019...60+ hrs and counting...don't ask.

I even bought a steering wheel/pedals for it... --

I will make some effort to post the plots though...tomorrow...maybe...maybe tonight....maybe not lol...

At leasts is not goat simulator.........

 

[Tentacle Bandit]

Heres the post to the first 9 parts of the first unused story. I couldn't finish typing it all out tonight, so I'll update it over the weekend and finish it. Still 2 more after that lol.

I should note these story plots are rough, a lot of the little details especially in dialog and the importance of family to Marina aren't really outlined directly but they are there or would be lol.

First plot was called Case of the Contract.

http://www.anime-sharing.com/forum/...rd-outline-marina-sequel]-768751/#post3516998