[LPW #77] BLOOD BATH FEVER!!!

[FinalPyre]

First let tell when human could die so you won't make mistake

1. Studies have shown that rats will die after a few weeks without sleep, but human sleep deprivation studies have shown no such dangers. The only cases of humans dying from lack of sleep have been people with the extremely rare genetic prion disease Fatal Familial Insomnia, a disease which destroys the brain and leaves people unable to sleep for months (and in these cases, it's probably not the lack of sleep but the enormous brain damage sustained from the prion disease which kills the victim.)
2. Humans would experience the same end result (like animals) if they were kept awake for long enough however Our knowledge of prolonged, complete sleep deprivation in humans is limited because intolerable psychological effects such as hallucination and paranoia take hold long before the more severe physical symptoms. Most human studies involve no more than two to three days of complete deprivation or a week of partial sleep deficits.
3. People are just more likely to do stupid things and put themselves in life threatening situations when they've not been sleeping.
4. I also think you must eat and drink be healthy (not taking coffee, drugs, smoking ...) and do a little excercise (at least walk outside when going somewhere) and not like sitting all day before screen --> this one is my opinion

Proofs

- CIA interrogators at Guantanamo Bay subjected dozens of detainees to sleep deprivation, shackling the prisoners in a standing position for up to 11 days at a time.
Conclusion: While no human being is known to have died from staying awake, animal research strongly suggests it could happen.
Link (You can also click on 1. sentence to get to Los Angeles Times)
Link2
History Case studies
Sydney sleep researcher Dr Nathaniel Marshall

a lot more but i think is not necessary

But don't get me wrong I am not saying is healthy however you would not die if you do it once in a while and as already posted in 2. most of people could stay awake maximum for 2-3 days and there will be other effects before it comes to critical.
So don't mix with other people who don't belong what's written here (accidents, not healthy, taking drugs...).

Hmm I think the conclusion would then be, that under reasonably natural circumstances, you should expect to be dead, or at least in mortal peril, if you are awake for ~10 days or longer. This will be partly due to the effects of things like blood pressure (second article) and largely due to the fact that you will be a rather crazy person. It could stand to be reasoned that the types of activity that induce prolonged periods of sleep deprivation are the likely target for what could be lethal, but the fact of being deprived of sleep exasperates their lethality.

Further conclusion: it would appear you don't have to make up for as much sleep as you lost, because your body supplements your 'catch up' sleep with more stage 4 and 5 sleep. If you don't mind being crazy, you can spend more time awake this way!

In the end, it would appear that my original statement might have not have held the right implications (that it would be lack of sleep that killed you), but is probably still correct (a bit of confounding semantics in there, it would seem).

Also, this might just be me nitpicking (actually no, it really is just me nitpicking), but be careful about what you call "proofs". Those are not proofs, and they don't prove anything. They only give suggestions of what could be the case (and most or all of them do not appear to be peer reviewed, but I hardly expected that anyways). They do with with some cited studies, and (shudder) some anecdotal evidence.

Thanks for the effort! Good stuff to know, undoubtedly

 

[nanashi1]

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Well, I see there some new news (this animes are for me nevertheless not new...) on this chart, than in this chart (#42); what I in my thread posted have...~>
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Bye Samy, take care on you

 

[Shinseph]

Later sam. Take some okoNOmiyaki!

 

[FinalPyre]

Hmm maybe I'll bus downtown earlier today... but then if I run into problems there won't be any 'net. :/

 

[nanashi1]

Well, that is suck the Final...>_>

 

[Dark Angel]

/me enters the LPW and greetings everyone in the LPW!

 

[DreamCa7ch3r]

*DreamCa7ch3r greets back

 

[thecoins]

Hello LPW!

 

[Shinseph]

Hey dark hey coins

 

[Anayomex]

Hmm I think the conclusion would then be, that under reasonably natural circumstances, you should expect to be dead, or at least in mortal peril, if you are awake for ~10 days or longer. This will be partly due to the effects of things like blood pressure (second article) and largely due to the fact that you will be a rather crazy person. It could stand to be reasoned that the types of activity that induce prolonged periods of sleep deprivation are the likely target for what could be lethal, but the fact of being deprived of sleep exasperates their lethality.

Further conclusion: it would appear you don't have to make up for as much sleep as you lost, because your body supplements your 'catch up' sleep with more stage 4 and 5 sleep. If you don't mind being crazy, you can spend more time awake this way!

In the end, it would appear that my original statement might have not have held the right implications (that it would be lack of sleep that killed you), but is probably still correct (a bit of confounding semantics in there, it would seem).

Also, this might just be me nitpicking (actually no, it really is just me nitpicking), but be careful about what you call "proofs". Those are not proofs, and they don't prove anything. They only give suggestions of what could be the case (and most or all of them do not appear to be peer reviewed, but I hardly expected that anyways). They do with with some cited studies, and (shudder) some anecdotal evidence.

Thanks for the effort! Good stuff to know, undoubtedly

Of course you cant exactly show proof however there shouldn't be a problem if you skip only one night, even if this is twice or more per month a lot of normal people in the above sense do that and as already said most of people can't stay awake for more than 3 days (maybe 90% or more) so is not likely you could stay awake so long. Beside that there would be a lot of reports about people dying because they skipped 1-3 nights since this happens more common unlike you may think.

 

[thecoins]

Hmm wall of text xD

 

[DreamCa7ch3r]

Yo coins
I didn't even bother.

 

[thecoins]

Btw just seen the 4444 target. I wonder when this LPW will be ended?

 

[Anayomex]

Since is about halfway it will still take about a week

 

[FinalPyre]

Hmm wall of text xD

If you think that is a wall of text, you obviously don't see many of my lengthier posts. :P

 

[Dark Angel]

i feel somewhat tired...

 

[Shinseph]

I'm going to duck out for a bit and bury myself in a VN. Laters

 

[thecoins]

Later shin~

 

[Anayomex]

See you later Shin

Ah finally 6k posts

 

[DreamCa7ch3r]

Byes shin
I'm off too

 

[Anayomex]

good night Dream

 

[nanashi1]

I'm just there at to say; "Bye, and g'night all^^!"

 

[Infamous]

good afternoon everyone

 

[MadSova]

『Mornight everyone...』

 

[Infamous]

hey mimi