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The new game from Anim Team.mm, Bokudaka, looks pretty epic. Infortunately I can't synchronise the trial demo with my Visual Novel Reader so I can't understand it. Looks like VNR is too old or Bokudaka has an H-code (This option would surprise me however because Anim never use H-codes...)
Use AGTH - works without H-code (VNR / ITHVNR doesn't work)

I use ITHVNR with Translator Agregator and never had a problem with Anim games (I didn't try the demos though). I didn't need a h-code for Homestay, I replayed some of the scenes some days ago and didn't have a problem hooking it withouth h-code.
Using the same method most of the times (IMHO the best way), but not this time with the demo. I suppose it's a demo bug :D:D:D

Also could someone spoil the demo for me? I would like to play it but I don't want to at the same time LOL. I think if I play it I would want more!!! and will end up getting more hypped about it that I already am. Since we won't have the game for a while it's not a good idea to get too hypped about it, that will only make the wait all the more unbearable. However I do wanna know what's so epic about the demo :D
Well MC divorced few yers ago, 'couse his wife was a cheater. And he withnessed the cheating scene. Back then he thouth it was discusting and just got divorced (he hadn't watched the whole scene). For a couple of years he lived alone. Then he married again on his co-worker who is 10 years younger. And THE FETISH happened :) remembering his ex-wife. MC finds NTR forum, taking some advices from the forum, he confessing to his wife. She refuses of cource, but MC didn't lose hope, and little by little continue convincing his wife using methods advesed from the forum member "A". Couple of dinners with 3 of them and wife agree to have sex with her husband, when A standing there watching them. The demo ends here and it seems that at least 1 H-scene with MC was missed. Plus the demo has 3H scenes - 1 is not far away from the demo's end. And 2 others is from latter parts of the game (and it seems those not the whole scenes )
 
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Ok, help me out a little. I'm filling the survey for Homestay in ANIM. I want to know how do japanese call the panoramic scenes. I want to tell them that I like them.

Also I already know what's wrong with the design of the wife. I mean she is really hot, but looks like a highschoolgirl, and I think I now know why. Is that fucking ribbon. I mean LOOK AT THIS. Talking about teasing. Much better than the haircut with the ribbon. That's how a wife should look like: Young but with a mature appeal, cute but sexy at the same time. I whish ANIM would have use that haircut instead. I still don't like the Voice Actress though :rolleyes:

I was reading NTRblog and it seems the MC was already married, but divorced due to her wife infidelity, then remarried the Heroine. If I understood correctly, that infidelity is the root of both: his desire for Netorase and his inner fear of losing her again. I thing this game could be pretty good if ANIM don't screw up and deliver the good stuff like always. I want to see the MC totally destroyed at the end :D

Well, now help me out please. How do I should call those panotamic scenes? Somebody knows?
 
Ok, help me out a little. I'm filling the survey for Homestay in ANIM. I want to know how do japanese call the panoramic scenes. I want to tell them that I like them.

Also I already know what's wrong with the design of the wife. I mean she is really hot, but looks like a highschoolgirl, and I think I now know why. Is that fucking ribbon. I mean LOOK AT THIS. Talking about teasing. Much better than the haircut with the ribbon. That's how a wife should look like: Young but with a mature appeal, cute but sexy at the same time. I whish ANIM would have use that haircut instead. I still don't like the Voice Actress though :rolleyes:

I was reading NTRblog and it seems the MC was already married, but divorced due to her wife infidelity, then remarried the Heroine. If I understood correctly, that infidelity is the root of both: his desire for Netorase and his inner fear of losing her again. I thing this game could be pretty good if ANIM don't screw up and deliver the good stuff like always. I want to see the MC totally destroyed at the end :D

Well, now help me out please. How do I should call those panotamic scenes? Somebody knows?

I don't know how japanese call panoramic scenes :( Do you think they would listen to us, gaijins? I doubt that.

Yeah, ribbon is a crap! There will be H-scene with wife in school uniform, and even there there is ribbon :( But it's not a disaster for the game. Play the demo, look how wife looks in hot springs - you'll like it :D
You understood correctly, and it's awesome when MC have sex with wife imagining things, :). Excitement drives MC forvard over his fears and MC thinks that he could stop everything at any moment.
By the way there is text bellow most pictures, if you are interested in additional details http://www.hs-crowd.co.jp/anim/product/pro_pc/pc055/sample.html
 
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I don't know how japanese call panoramic scenes :( Do you think they would listen to us, gaijins? I doubt that.

Yeah, ribbon is a crap! There will be H-scene with wife in school uniform, and even there there is ribbon :( But it's not a disaster for the game. Play the demo, look how wife looks in hot springs - you'll like it :D
You understood correctly, and it's awesome when MC have sex with wife imagining things, :). Excitement drives MC forvard over his fears and MC thinks that he could stop everything at any moment.
By the way there is text bellow most pictures, if you are interested in additional details http://www.hs-crowd.co.jp/anim/product/pro_pc/pc055/sample.html

Thanks I already uploaded the survey. I called them Fixed Camera Angle Scenes in japanese and put as examples the scenes from the game that used that view. However it would be nice if someone finds out how is it called in japanese. By the way there is a nice pic of Akie after you send the survey :D

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Thanks I already uploaded the survey. I called them Fixed Camera Angle Scenes in japanese and put as examples the scenes from the game that used that view. However it would be nice if someone finds out how is it called in japanese. By the way there is a nice pic of Akie after you send the survey :D

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So you filled out the survey where you specify which game you bought? (in your case Homestay)

I wonder if there's a different 'thank you' pic for each specific game or if it's just from the most recent release.

Guess I'll find out if/when I fill out my own survey

Very nice, but now I am worried, that may mean that I missed all the exclusive art from the previous surveys.

If that's the case it'd be great if someone could track down all past exclusive pics. Sometimes you can find official artwork on booru type sites but not always guaranteed. Probably more likely to find it on some Japanese fan's blog
 
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There is BugBug pages but nothing really new there. Only some new wife's face expressions
 
Quick question in https://vndb.org/v16881 (Honto no Kimochi) during the scenes between MC and girl is there any differences or addition in the girl POV version? i mean i know that in the revelation scene there are additions and also when he sees her masturbating, but i am talking about the scene near the end.
 
I agree entirely only debt is maybe the easiest common denominator, I prefer a kind of power play where the antagonist has some thing over the MC and trying to interfere would spare the heroine but hurt the future of the relationship hence the choice is just impossible to make. Those are the most interesting ones imo.



I've actually been looking for Fuyuiro no Muffler for a while now and havent ever found any working links so I'm considering buying it too, as well as some older games by Moirai.

From Starworks I haven't played any yet but on my list are Akogare no Kanakosan and Tanshin Funinchuu!!. I also want this one but havent found it anywhere. Honestly art is not that important as long as the proportions dont hurt you eyes like early Jinsei. Simple nuances like in NTRPG and Yobai Game/Nenotori can be infinitely hotter than exceptional art (like the last Lilim game, that game was just lazy in so many levels)

Fuyuiro no Muffler
 
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I was thinking about writing my full review of Mekujira's latest game - Tanin Bou Monogatari, but game is taking longer than i have thought, and i've got some ideas i would like to share now, because of new teamMM release coming, I ll probably forget about them later.
I did like 70% of the game (just started last chapter with Red Haired girl, and have to finish a few last scenes with Purple haired Chairman girl (school council leader or whatever its called, kanji translators called it Chairman, so i ll stick with it)
Short version is:
Game is divided into 4 separate stories with different characters.
Prologue part is surprisingly long (2-8 hours long depending on reading speed i guess), like 80% of each chapter long. NTR happens in the remaining 20% unfortunately :(. And after that chapter ends pretty quickly, especially if you stick to MC only PoV. Some chapters have extended ending in Girl's PoV
Each chapter have 6-7 scenes, but CG in some of them may be reused in the same chapter with some minor additions.
Music tracks are unique to each chapters and there is good variety of them. Some very nice (and sad) piano tunes in Chairman route for example. Also game uses atmospheric background noise (voices?) in public places like Arcade or Park.

But damn, NTR is so good in Chairman route
Here is just 1 pic worth more than a thousand words, especially in my broken english :). Who ever came up with this scene is NTR genius for me, Im sure mystery lovers like Redorc would appreciate it too
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Also this scene got me thinking about how Protagonists are portrayed in NTR, and why i love this Faceless (or eyeless to be correct :8) style so much in games.

Story is also very good and interesting in that particular chapter. Unfortunately the another 2 stories that i played were not as good.
Martial Girl was very disappointing for me, so much missed potential and with very good build up too. :(
Teachers' story wasn't good scenario wise, but a lot of good scenes behind MC back, or in some cases right in front of him and even beside him, creative use of alcohol i guess :rolleyes:
Cant tell anything about Red Haired Girl yet, but the very beginning is sad and atmospheric, so i hope it could be almost as good as Chairman story.
And yeah, there is also very good and somewhat unique phone scene (not in the pic above) in Chairman route.

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So overall i think its a very good game, definitely worth checking, at least Chairman Part (did i mention that Chairman chapter is very good? ;)), but NTR part is too short, they should probably made only 2 chapters. Because there is that feeling when chapters ends, where it could go on more and be so much better. Or time starts to go too fast, and we have time jump near the end.
Also this game is DMM exclusive as far as i can tell, i hope it doesn't mean Mekujira will start to cut corners even more with less creative freedom or smaller market, or will start to sell separate chapters as DLC.
Also worth mentioning that some CG... well some parts of them could be drawn better :P

Edit. Need to clarify here, Martial girl is - Girl from martial arts club, on game Cover she is wearing an Apron and is living\working in family restaurant, so i guess you can also call her Cook Girl :rolleyes:
Edit2. I tried to fix some grammar stuff and insert some missing commas, i hope i didn't make thing worse :o_O:. Why does every person cant speak\write in one universal language? Well i guess diversity is good and all, but things would be so much easier :redface:
 
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Can i get a sumary/breakdown of [ANIM] Mesu Ochi Kyonyuu Zuma wa Ore no Mono ~Makegumi no Ore ga Kachigumi no Yuujin kara Bijin Zuma o Netoru Hanashi~ and its endings please.
 
I was thinking about writing my full review of Mekujira's latest game - Tanin Bou Monogatari, but game is taking longer than i have thought, and i've got some ideas i would like to share now, because of new teamMM release coming, I ll probably forget about them later.
I did like 70% of the game (just started last chapter with Red Haired girl, and have to finish a few last scenes with Purple haired Chairman girl (school council leader or whatever its called, kanji translators called it Chairman, so i ll stick with it)
Short version is:
Game is divided into 4 separate stories with different characters.
Prologue part is surprisingly long (2-8 hours long depending on reading speed i guess), like 80% of each chapter long. NTR happens in the remaining 20% unfortunately :(. And after that chapter ends pretty quickly, especially if you stick to MC only PoV. Some chapters have extended ending in Girl's PoV
Each chapter have 6-7 scenes, but CG in some of them may be reused in the same chapter with some minor additions.
Music tracks are unique to each chapters and there is good variety of them. Some very nice (and sad) piano tunes in Chairman route for example. Also game uses atmospheric background noise (voices?) in public places like Arcade or Park.

But damn, NTR is so good in Chairman route
Here is just 1 pic worth more than a thousand words, especially in my broken english :). Who ever came up with this scene is NTR genius for me, Im sure mystery lovers like Redorc would appreciate it too
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Also this scene got me thinking about how Protagonists are portrayed in NTR, and why i love this Faceless (or eyeless to be correct :8) style so much in games.

Story is also very good and interesting in that particular chapter. Unfortunately the another 2 stories that i played were not as good.
Martial Girl was very disappointing for me, so much missed potential and with very good build up too. :(
Teachers' story wasn't good scenario wise, but a lot of good scenes behind MC back, or in some cases right in front of him and even beside him, creative use of alcohol i guess :rolleyes:
Cant tell anything about Red Haired Girl yet, but the very beginning is sad and atmospheric, so i hope it could be almost as good as Chairman story.
And yeah, there is also very good and somewhat unique phone scene (not in the pic above) in Chairman route.

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So overall i think its a very good game, definitely worth checking, at least Chairman Part (did i mention that Chairman chapter is very good? ;)), but NTR part is too short, they should probably made only 2 chapters. Because there is that feeling when chapters ends, where it could go on more and be so much better. Or time starts to go too fast, and we have time jump near the end.
Also this game is DMM exclusive as far as i can tell, i hope it doesn't mean Mekujira will start to cut corners even more with less creative freedom or smaller market, or will start to sell separate chapters as DLC.
Also worth mentioning that some CG... well some parts of them could be drawn better :P

Edit. Need to clarify here, Martial girl is - Girl from martial arts club, on game Cover she is wearing an Apron and is living\working in family restaurant, so i guess you can also call her Cook Girl :rolleyes:
Edit2. I tried to fix some grammar stuff and insert some missing commas, i hope i didn't make thing worse :o_O:. Why does every person cant speak\write in one universal language? Well i guess diversity is good and all, but things would be so much easier :redface:

I must say i actually prefer when the MC have faces, that way you can see their emotions even better, for example in Honto no Kimochi there are moments where i would love to see the guy's face, mostly in the climax scene to both see his despair and his anger, also a couple of happy faces (like in the "ending") so we can compare.....muahahahahahahaha

God speaking of that game, is AWESOME!! i almost want to just rush to the real ending but i will enjoy the slow corruption, maybe i will jump a few scenes to speed things up.
 
I was thinking about writing my full review of Mekujira's latest game - Tanin Bou Monogatari, but game is taking longer than i have thought, and i've got some ideas i would like to share now, because of new teamMM release coming, I ll probably forget about them later.
I did like 70% of the game (just started last chapter with Red Haired girl, and have to finish a few last scenes with Purple haired Chairman girl (school council leader or whatever its called, kanji translators called it Chairman, so i ll stick with it)
Short version is:
Game is divided into 4 separate stories with different characters.
Prologue part is surprisingly long (2-8 hours long depending on reading speed i guess), like 80% of each chapter long. NTR happens in the remaining 20% unfortunately :(. And after that chapter ends pretty quickly, especially if you stick to MC only PoV. Some chapters have extended ending in Girl's PoV
Each chapter have 6-7 scenes, but CG in some of them may be reused in the same chapter with some minor additions.
Music tracks are unique to each chapters and there is good variety of them. Some very nice (and sad) piano tunes in Chairman route for example. Also game uses atmospheric background noise (voices?) in public places like Arcade or Park.

But damn, NTR is so good in Chairman route
Here is just 1 pic worth more than a thousand words, especially in my broken english :). Who ever came up with this scene is NTR genius for me, Im sure mystery lovers like Redorc would appreciate it too
View attachment 18688
Also this scene got me thinking about how Protagonists are portrayed in NTR, and why i love this Faceless (or eyeless to be correct :8) style so much in games.

Story is also very good and interesting in that particular chapter. Unfortunately the another 2 stories that i played were not as good.
Martial Girl was very disappointing for me, so much missed potential and with very good build up too. :(
Teachers' story wasn't good scenario wise, but a lot of good scenes behind MC back, or in some cases right in front of him and even beside him, creative use of alcohol i guess :rolleyes:
Cant tell anything about Red Haired Girl yet, but the very beginning is sad and atmospheric, so i hope it could be almost as good as Chairman story.
And yeah, there is also very good and somewhat unique phone scene (not in the pic above) in Chairman route.

---
So overall i think its a very good game, definitely worth checking, at least Chairman Part (did i mention that Chairman chapter is very good? ;)), but NTR part is too short, they should probably made only 2 chapters. Because there is that feeling when chapters ends, where it could go on more and be so much better. Or time starts to go too fast, and we have time jump near the end.
Also this game is DMM exclusive as far as i can tell, i hope it doesn't mean Mekujira will start to cut corners even more with less creative freedom or smaller market, or will start to sell separate chapters as DLC.
Also worth mentioning that some CG... well some parts of them could be drawn better :P

Edit. Need to clarify here, Martial girl is - Girl from martial arts club, on game Cover she is wearing an Apron and is living\working in family restaurant, so i guess you can also call her Cook Girl :rolleyes:
Edit2. I tried to fix some grammar stuff and insert some missing commas, i hope i didn't make thing worse :o_O:. Why does every person cant speak\write in one universal language? Well i guess diversity is good and all, but things would be so much easier :redface:

Interesting, maybe I should buy it as well. Tell me something. In the chairman route, the MC is aware of the NTR? By his look it seems that way. What kind of scenario is it? Could you give me more details?

Another question to all of you. Does the new ANIM game will be available in DMM? I'm thinking about buying it, but I can only do it if it can be downloaded and if there is no restriction oversees. Does someone know something about it?
 
I must say i actually prefer when the MC have faces, that way you can see their emotions even better, for example in Honto no Kimochi there are moments where i would love to see the guy's face, mostly in the climax scene to both see his despair and his anger, also a couple of happy faces (like in the "ending") so we can compare.....muahahahahahahaha.
Yeah i think i can understand it, its more about seeing feelings of others than feeling them yourself, or something like that. Some people, me for example, can feel various emotions, even some strong ones, but without change in facial expression or with some very minor changes. I guess its not very interesting (engaging?) for the viewer who wants to see joy\suffering of characters like that.
One of Lermontov's poem is good example of this. I ll even quote it here just for convenience. Poems are probably better in their original language, but i think this translation isn't bad.
Epitaph (Forgive me! Shall we meet again?..)

Forgive me! Shall we meet again?
Will death desire to bring together
Two victims of an earthly lot?
Who knows! And so, forgive, forgive me!..
You gave me life, but joy you could not give,
For you yourself were persecuted on this earth
And so only the evil within people...
And you were only understood by one.
And that one, while the crowd,
Sobbing, gathered 'round you,
Stood, not needing to dry his tearless eyes -
Motionless, cold, and silent.
And those around him, unaware of his thoughts,
Derisively passed judgment,
As if the moment of your passing
Was for him a moment of joy.
But what did he care for their outbursts?
Fools! They could not understand
That it is easier to cry than suffer
Without showing signs of suffering.
I think with faceless protag its easier to relate to him to feel his sadness, at least for me.
In the opposite way, if the protag looks like this https://vndb.org/c63504 or even this https://vndb.org/c57898 (those weird brows and puppy face, Very good game tho) its harder for me to take their feeling seriously or care for them.

Interesting, maybe I should buy it as well. Tell me something. In the chairman route, the MC is aware of the NTR? By his look it seems that way. What kind of scenario is it? Could you give me more details?
Another question to all of you. Does the new ANIM game will be available in DMM? I'm thinking about buying it, but I can only do it if it can be downloaded and if there is no restriction oversees. Does someone know something about it?

The link to the game was like few pages back, man :) http://www.anime-sharing.com/forum/...ssion-thread-44653/index1406.html#post2936879 you can try it and if you like - buy it to support developer. I for example, had brought few of missing Mekujira's games on sale on eng DLsite and will buy rest of them next sale just to support them.

He suspects but is not completely aware (doesn't want to believe?), i think, till the end. Hero is not an Idiot like MC in another chapter, when guy literally sits on semen covered couch and almost ignores it, choosing to believe in his fiance (her purity and loyalty?), or seeing stuff and believing its just drunk dreams. At some point, he starts pretty aggressively question heroine noticing that she isn't telling the truth, but Netori guy stands up to her defense (also pretty aggressively, physically touching\threatening?) MC and accuse him of jealousy (?). After this hero backs down. This story is so much deeper, and i wont do it justice with my machine translated playthrough, also i didn't finish last few Heroine scene, maybe there would be more MC PoV after that. But i can tell you he sure inst happy about whats happening, and it deeply concerns him. But i can say i really enjoyed scenario minus forced (rushed) second half. There is also another Girl Shiho, she plays major role in the first half (unfortunately she has no sprites or VA :(). Jealousy plays large factor in both hero and heroine actions (No cheating on MC part tho). Its implied i think that Shiho was probably manipulated behind the scenes by netori guy

About anims game on DMM or DLsite.
I know that new games appears with some delay. I can see (and i think can buy) all teamMM games on their DMM page except new unreleased one, it gives me error about not availability in my area. I remember someone in this thread had digitally brought (preordered) new anim games at release day at aclass-market but i could be wrong.
Also they will appear on jap DLsite with few months delay i think.

PS. people please put long post quotes under Spoiler tag, its easy and conserves space :)

Edit. Scenario is type A, no blackmail or rape, some use of alcohol through.
Edit2. I improved english a bit, it should be better now.
 
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Hmmm.. i think the new anim game will not be available in download format on day 1, the reservation/preorder page in DMM state the media is DVD-rom, and looking from the company page in vndb, it seems the download version usually come around 2 months from release date.

so fark me and my blueball, i hope someone made a crack asap for the dvd rom version as I wont be able to get that shipped to Australia, sigh.
 
so rance HCG is out on sadpanda. TONS of NTR, but sadly, the most important and ultimate NTR is not included. there is no sill UNLESS sill is the one being raped by tentacles. she has pink hair and blue eyes like sill, but wrong hair style. (which sill is does tend to change).
 
Google translation might be wrong (maybe someone can confirm) but I think this tweet says that there will be DLC for 3 additional scenarios kind of like Waffle did for their NTR game https://vndb.org/r51824

https://twitter.com/crowd_anim/status/966848699673411586

This the first time anim has done this?

Yeah 3 DLC with dates. And this is the first time. They were mentioning that before but I thout it was about additional content (audio drama).
Anim is teasing us.... ahhhhrrrr! new cgi with text and all countdown voices on their page..... :(:(:(

By the way I've just found out that WAFFLE has DLC that I didn't know exist before. Here is CGRip
http://www.anime-sharing.com/forum/...[47m-jpg-174m-lossless]-[waffle_0084]-627866/
That wasn't in aditional scenarios that I have. And I knew that to play it you'll need DMM player, could someone tell me more about it?
 
so rance HCG is out on sadpanda. TONS of NTR, but sadly, the most important and ultimate NTR is not included. there is no sill UNLESS sill is the one being raped by tentacles. she has pink hair and blue eyes like sill, but wrong hair style. (which sill is does tend to change).

think ultimate NTR would be if anything happened to Reset tbh. Alicesoft has shown that it's fine with depriving the purity of those super innocent and happy types. But considering she has so much connections to major characters and is winning popularity polls for games SHE ISNT EVEN IN... I think alicesoft HQ would be burned down if they tried anything like that with her. Maybe by Rance XX she won't be offlimits. Also apparently Rance fucks Miki in this one.. Not sure what circumstances lead to that- considering she has someone else she loves and she is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY too strong for rance to force her to do anything. I guess rance could threaten her lover ? but that's all I can think of.
 
think ultimate NTR would be if anything happened to Reset tbh. Alicesoft has shown that it's fine with depriving the purity of those super innocent and happy types. But considering she has so much connections to major characters and is winning popularity polls for games SHE ISNT EVEN IN... I think alicesoft HQ would be burned down if they tried anything like that with her. Maybe by Rance XX she won't be offlimits. Also apparently Rance fucks Miki in this one.. Not sure what circumstances lead to that- considering she has someone else she loves and she is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY too strong for rance to force her to do anything. I guess rance could threaten her lover ? but that's all I can think of.
No sure if its true put on 2chan they say there is a blue crystal Reset character sprite and that she got raped again not sure if true or not. Also heard Rance X failed massively on the hcg with no were near enough in it. And with the Miki scene I hear Kentarou dies and Rance uses hypnosis on her to replace Kentarou with him in her memories.
 
rance did some subconcious level tricky on miki. he replaced kentarou (right name?) with rance in her memory. so rance looks like he was the one that saved her and been with her.

at least that's what some one else said.

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my own question is, this looks like the final bad end of the game. the demon lord and a TON of big name girls are about to be violated, but come the fuck on. no actual penetration scenes with him.

i just want to know if kouhime was actually put in bad end because it looks like it could be her in the bottom left, but her hair style is a little off. color seems to match.

(edit: yup, it's kouhime. looking at her hair style, 2 bangs in the front and 2 ponytails. that's her alright.)

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shame only Sheila Helman has a pregnant bad end CG. who knows if any of the other girls get pregnant bad ends by story though. we'll have to wait for people to enjoy the game and then give us their thoughts.

i want to play, but i always fear that the complication of team building and moonspeak would just hinder me from progressing. does any one know if certain girls have to be in the team at certain levels again to get their NTR scene or can i just lose?

so reading the wikia. Medusa actually likes to kill who she rapes when she's done or during the act. her snake eats their organs and in the CG set, you can clearly see a girl dead missing an arm and some organs coming out her vagina. makes it safe to assume that risna is a death scene along with rape scene.
 
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I'm glad to see this Rance talk. Anyone here been playing Rance 10? I was wondering what rpg mechanics they went with this time. i wasn't a big fan of what they did with the last game.
 

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