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[KingArturia]

51cm isn't fit even for Yamatos so there is in fact the fitness penalty in it still. That's just not a numerical value that people have worked into a hypothetical formula yet.

And yes, calculations are only up to day and the yasen portions will be transmitted after the pressing of yasen.

I'm not sure whether the indication of the 51cm means they might introduce the hypothetical A-150 (Super Yamato, what the 51cm originally going to be fit on) into the game, man I would love to see it but I doubt it since they were never given a name.

 

[FireShark]

I cannot imagine doing a single normal sortie with Super Yamato since the current one is not that resource friendly.
Also, with the power of blueprints it might be possible as Yamato's Kai Ni maybe? Just look at Bismarck drei, she achieved her dream in KC world.

 

[KingArturia]

I cannot imagine doing a single normal sortie with Super Yamato since the current one is not that resource friendly.
Also, with the power of blueprints it might be possible as Yamato's Kai Ni maybe? Just look at Bismarck drei, she achieved her dream in KC world.

That's true, with how much bullet Yamato and Musashi use, it is hard to imagine a sortie with the Super Yamato, potentially costing up to 1k if you drain the bar xD

 

[Shir0]

I hope shiden kai ni is fine. I have more of those than I have reppu. 46cm only really fit on nagato and yamato class right? or how does it work?

[MENTION=26]KingArturia[/MENTION]; Have fun with this. Don't know whether there is a bigger package or not.

 

[pichu655889]

Haven't visited this thread in a while; what is the ongoing discussion about? The upcoming event? The one I am totally underprepared for?

 

[FireShark]

I hope shiden kai ni is fine. I have more of those than I have reppu. 46cm only really fit on nagato and yamato class right? or how does it work?

Shiden K2 is fine. A +1 AA difference is only visible on large planes slots (Kaga's).

As for mains,
46cm = Yamato
41cm = Nagato / Fusou K2
35.6cm / 38cm = Kongou / Bismarck / Ise / Fusou

Nagato with 46cm will have hidden accuracy penalty, not that the accuracy stat isn't hidden in the first place.
The same goes to other BB equipping guns that they shouldn't have.
However, it is null if your Nagato is lv90 and above, better lv100+ where it is hardly noticeable.

Haven't visited this thread in a while; what is the ongoing discussion about? The upcoming event? The one I am totally underprepared for?

From the new Italy BB gun to accuracy on BB guns.
Italy BB gun from monthly ranking reward.

 

[DreamCa7ch3r]

Haven't visited this thread in a while; what is the ongoing discussion about? The upcoming event? The one I am totally underprepared for?

Don't worry, you're not the only one.

 

[KingArturia]

[MENTION=26]KingArturia[/MENTION]; Have fun with this. Don't know whether there is a bigger package or not.

You dare to taunt me! Welp I guess another thing to order then ;_;

 

[Shir0]

I am not taunting you. You would have bought it even without me showing it to you. :D

I have used 41cm on every BB up until now and one 46cm on mutsu.

 

[ecael]

I'm not sure whether the indication of the 51cm means they might introduce the hypothetical A-150 (Super Yamato, what the 51cm originally going to be fit on) into the game, man I would love to see it but I doubt it since they were never given a name.

People liked to talk about it but nothing to say that they'd materialize, but who knows, kai2 is certainly possible at some point imo.

That's true, with how much bullet Yamato and Musashi use, it is hard to imagine a sortie with the Super Yamato, potentially costing up to 1k if you drain the bar xD

That's what we thought about the Yamatos back in 2013, look at where we are now.

Incidentally since people were posting resource counts a while ago I guess I'll post mine now that I finished 5-5 this month.

Shiden K2 is fine. A +1 AA difference is only visible on large planes slots (Kaga's).

As for mains,
46cm = Yamato
41cm = Nagato / Fusou K2
35.6cm / 38cm = Kongou / Bismarck / Ise / Fusou

Nagato with 46cm will have hidden accuracy penalty, not that the accuracy stat isn't hidden in the first place.
The same goes to other BB equipping guns that they shouldn't have.
However, it is null if your Nagato is lv90 and above, better lv100+ where it is hardly noticeable.

There are talks of 46cm being not fit on even Yamatos since there were no observable acc bonus from it, but tbh acc tests up to this point have mostly been pretty awkward and the data kind of came as a part of red condition acc tests and such. So who knows.

It is somewhat irresponsible to just say that levels will offset non-fit acc penalties, though. Let's not forget how much of the equip minmax since the introduction of combined fleet has been to hit certain firepower caps while stacking as much acc without using too many non-fit equipments. Regardless of level. Also, the 90~100 talk is pretty unlikely since for the most part it has been shown that acc bonus from levels past high 80s~90s and above are marginal. With the level of penalty slapped on from combined fleet and the high numbers boasted by the newtype DD/CL/CAs in EOs/recent events, it is only natural to try to actually max out on acc as much as one can.

As for planes, tbh +1 is big in any slot that you'd put fighters on. I wouldn't sweat it either way, but considering the margins that we tend to be tweaking for AA values, that 1 aa difference is generally going to be the deciding factor on whether you have and use +4aa fighter-bomber or even just punt that carrier's shelling.

 

[FireShark]

^With this we can conclude that the new 381 gun sucks big time. Wanted your thoughts regarding mix guns. Example, Kongou with 41cm and 35.6cm, does this combination really have no acc penalty? Himeuta and wiki chats on them are too deep for me. And damn your resources. I'm only 1/3 of yours except baux.

Also, from the new tweet (new voices for multiple Mutsukis), what do you think of the chances that all Mutsukis are getting their Kai Ni?

 

[ecael]

^With this we can conclude that the new 381 gun sucks big time. Wanted your thoughts regarding mix guns. Example, Kongou with 41cm and 35.6cm, does this combination really have no acc penalty? Himeuta and wiki chats on them are too deep for me. And damn your resources. I'm only 1/3 of yours except baux.

Also, from the new tweet (new voices for multiple Mutsukis), what do you think of the chances that all Mutsukis are getting their Kai Ni?

The stuff that I found for acc testing weren't really conclusive at all as to the effects of mixed equips, we only really have the words of devs for this system as far as I have seen. By that I mean they didn't really say anything, they mentioned that multiple of fits will give a bonus while multiples of not fits will have a penalty, a penalty that's supposed to scale by weight of differences and amount stacked. The thoughts during original implementation was that mixed equips when we are just doing 2gun/1plane/1something had a minimal effect, but the equips from people since then have gradually shifted to overkill on acc and fit. I still used mixed 46/35.6 on Kongous and felt like combined fleet areas were fine while my experiments with multiple 41s on Nagatos turned out to be so-so at best. In the end, fit is a masked stat that's even more elusive than the already annoying to guess acc values.

tl;dr who knows, but even if there should be a penalty, it is definitely smaller than double 46 would be on Kongous. Either way though, we have firepower caps to hit. There is only so much that you can do in acc stacking before it becomes meaningless from low atk.

They do voice updates for entire lines of ships all the time, we still have a ton of ships w/o hourly calls. It'll just be one of the Mutsukis as they said and the other non-rare mutsukis just getting more stuff given to them. They are trying to sell a character game here, so that much investment is pretty much expected, particularly from something the size of Kadokawa in a game as big as this.

 

[KingArturia]

I've been running 41cm on all BB since I could mass produce/nick them off the drop of ships, honestly I can't say I've notice any penalty what so ever, my Kongou, Kirishima, Haruna and Hiei are all hitting on target majority of the time, doing over 200+ on enemy BB and CV and 400+ on CVL or below size. I'm not sure whether level make much of a difference since they're all 88+, Kongou being the highest of 97 (who is also the highest level of my ships), followed by Kirishima at 90 with Haruna and Hiei at 88.

 

[ecael]

Event on 28th, we have about a week left for preparations. Maint on 23rd for Mutsuki and stuff, I think I need to suck it up and finish 6-1 monthly and 1-6.

 

[DreamCa7ch3r]

Oh good.
I can finish panic leveling my CVs.

 

[FireShark]

28th? Looks like I have enough time to ring my Bismarck before the event.
Also, they might postpone the launch event.

 

[moemoe-kyun]

1 more week to prepare.

 

[ecael]

28th? Looks like I have enough time to ring my Bismarck before the event.
Also, they might postpone the launch event.

They use that line all the time to cover their asses in case something does go wrong. Haven't really failed yet if we ignore the cat bombing of 2013 Summer/Autumn.

 

[KingArturia]

Off Topic: Wow, I was really glad they have Yamato, Nagato and Kongou in the battleship line for World of Warships, but they don't have Kaga and Akagi for the CV, which I was like WTF? Like two of the most famous IJN CV just got ignored?

 

[DreamCa7ch3r]

Off Topic: Wow, I was really glad they have Yamato, Nagato and Kongou in the battleship line for World of Warships, but they don't have Kaga and Akagi for the CV, which I was like WTF? Like two of the most famous IJN CV just got ignored?

Where did you get that information?

 

[KingArturia]

Where did you get that information?

There you go...This is the planned CV tech tree for Japanese at the moment. They even included the G-15 class, or to them they named it as Hakuryu, or sometime known as Taihou Kai I think. No Shinano or Akagi or Kaga. However the main site I can find concept for Akagi and Shinano, so there might be a chance of them being introduced but it might not be a development ship but a pay from Premium shop ship? Its hard to say at this point but that video was only release 4 days ago, so I'm kind of thinking that's one of the latest information whereas the official website might not have been updated for a bit.

 

[ecael]

They'll probably add it at some point, at the moment it is probably omitted due to the fact that they are doing ships by the class. With Amagi in it under bb rather than the converted CV plan, Akagi/Kaga are probably going to be pushed to later on as they add more ships within class rather than main class nameships.

 

[FireShark]

Isn't that the Battle cruiser Amagi, not the same as the one in Kancolle?
And that game doesn't have any submarines?

 

[ecael]

Isn't that the Battle cruiser Amagi, not the same as the one in Kancolle?
And that game doesn't have any submarines?

There is the BB class Amagi, which Akagi was in, which was converted to CVs. Then there is the CV class Unryuu, Amagi from Truk rewards was iirc 2nd ship of Unryuu class. The wows Amagi is the former, prior to the conversion.

Also subs would be awful to implement for wows without turning the game into retarded.

EDIT - lol 2 ships from Mutsukis for kai2, if Kisaragi gets one I'd laugh my ass off. The other is confirmed to be Mutsuki.

 

[FireShark]

lol 2 ships from Mutsukis for kai2, if Kisaragi gets one I'd laugh my ass off. The other is confirmed to be Mutsuki.

Are all the Mutsukis under one artist?
I wonder how many actually care about them anyways?
If their Kai Ni have a passive Akitsu boat ability, then I'll love/care about them. Otherwise, good for nothing expedition replacements.

Also, with Mutsuki Kai Ni, I fear for the shitty quest they are gonna put out.
That freaking 3-2 quest with them is nightmare. But 1-5 went pretty good for me.